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He owns so much space in some people’s heads...

Can anybody tell me what Harrell uses for his projections? I’ve always wondered. Its not Sagarin.

Good data. I stand corrected. I wonder what the data says at the college/pro level.

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A coin flip and then the winning coach gets to decide or a coin flip stating "heads you are this, tails you are this?" In my opinion, "defense wins championships" is the most outdated mantra at all levels of football, perhaps why you called it an "old saying." In the modern era of football, you need to get to 30 points to win more often than not... Now, CG turns defense into offense fairly consistently, but that's another story.

That CTE argument was pure speculation and irresponsible journalism, even if true. He does have things outside of football going on that are definitely affecting his coaching ability. Like I said above, no excuses when you are paid as handsomely as he is. It is also important to remember his track record and that he did not just suddenly forget how to coach football. Folks may say he is more suited for the NFL game but he did have impressive runs at San Diego and Stanford also.

Side argument (sure to get folks fired up): IU hasn't been a "basketball school" in over 25 years... Football coaches tend to make more than those on the hardwood for obvious reasons but it is interesting that Archie and Allen make similar figures.

Not even close. Their 2019 class did crack the top 40. Still not a recipe for long term success in the Big Ten East. Which is why I think Fitzgerald would be intriguing. Don't see it happening but fun to talk about.

I know 2020 is crazy, but those big boy/heavy TE sets sure as hell did knock out Oklahoma this year in the offensive minded Big 12... Think Michigan would kill for one win over the top dog in its conference these days? I sure as hell do.

Good point. I mean one thing the B10 does consistently do is pay its coaches competitively. Allen is top 40 in America in salary, but that is only good for 9th in the Big Ten. Having some roots in FL, maybe Allen goes after the Miami job if Diaz doesn't work out? Would be a lateral step financially, but a massive upgrade in potential talent/ability to compete annually. Side topic (maybe deserving of a separate thread), did Lincoln Riley miss his shot last year? I know the Cowboys gig is a train wreck right now but has some of the shine worn off? If so, Allen better look at all offers this offseason. The Hoosiers have a young stud in Pennix but don't have the classes coming in behind him to make 2020 much more than an anamoly.

Thanks, I am just glad I behaved and did used the phrase "recruiting standards/admissions" as opposed to what I really wanted to type.

And then Venables slides into the driver's seat at Clemson. No arguing from anyone here. Clemson to Michigan is a definite step down in terms of talent, recruiting standards/admission, access to talent, etc.. Unless ND makes a permanent move to the ACC, its also a free pass to the playoff annually.

What specifically are you referring to?

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Been there, done that. Dude's absolute refusal to wear a headset and clap repeatedly for 4 hours every Saturday turned people off. Being too old. If we are bailing on Harbaugh, I want a younger innovative guy.

Michigan looked at Mullen twice before the Harbaugh/Hoke hires. If willing, I'd take a LONG look at Muschamp for D coordinator. That job will DEFINITELY be open this winter.

They did do that with Rich Rod and (though I could go on and on about outside influences that limited his success there) but they just won't do it again. It was not a popular hire with the alumni and former players so he was given a short leash. Michigan could double Campbell's salary as he currently makes $3.5 million. I think he would at least take a look. As far as "Harbaugh's system" what is it anyway? He brought his Stanford "man ball" theory to UM in 2015. Placed a large emphasis on the TE and methodical running game. They then lost to OSU in dominating fashion and out thought themselves. In modern football, you need an offense that can easily score 30 to have a shot. With each passing "disappointing" season, they began to change their recruiting philosophy to mirror other spread teams (cough, OSU) and decided to try the "speed in space" concept. Problem is, they did not initially have the players to run it effectively. Now, they do have the personnel, but they are young. Josh Gattis brought his playbook from Bama and it appears (though its a small sample size) they have their QB for this year. (They do have a stud from IMG in JJ McCarthy coming in next year however.) Brady really has no recruiting ties other than the fact that he gets credit for Joe Burrow. I think he is a long shot, but is a young, enthusiastic guy with big ties to Florida/the southeast. It is a necessity to recruit that part of the country in order to be successful. I do think that Allen has done an amazing job at IU but lets pump the brakes a bit. Teams WILL throw money at him this fall and he HAS to listen, but I think it is a bit premature. Love his energy, passion and love for his players but I need to see more.

I'm taking the points. Does that count? Don't believe its a choice, no?

Baggage on all three. Sarkisian is a Carroll disciple and has had his run ins with the booze. Kiffin's lack of ethics has been widely publicized and Freeze is coming off of a scandal at Ole Miss. Once again, Michigan will NEVER entertain bringing someone on board with prior convictions. Whether I agree or not is moot, as it is not even worth entertaining, which lowers the applicant pool significantly, lol. You can also eliminate anyone (Howard, Woodson, Hart) without head coaching experience or at least NFL experience as a coordinator. I think a guy like Matt Campbell at Iowa State would be entertaining. Mario Cristobal at Oregon (though I don't think he would leave) intrigues me a bit too. Maybe Josh Heupel? Pat Fitzgerald (though I also think he would not be interested)? Guys like Chadwell and Allen are not Michigan material and I need to see more long term success before I'd make them a viable candidate for a blue blood job, especially in what's been a wild and crazy 2020. A coordinator name that is generating some interest in Michigan circles is Joe Brady. But once again, if Harbaugh gets to 4-4 this year (and maybe even 3-5), they will shuffle the deck chairs, fire Don Brown and make a run at it in 2021, which I firmly believe they should.

And he has each and every one of you in the palm of his hand...daily.

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ZERO chance, and I wish the phrase “Michigan man” would just die already.

Can't completely disagree but the difference between Michigan and the programs mentioned is that Michigan is still a top 15-20 team annually. Those others have fallen off the map. There are really only 4-5 elite programs, then about 25 who compete for the remaining top 10 spots annually. Michigan is in that second tier despite being the media's favorite punching bag at times.

Correct. But they knew their place in the football hierarchy, had realistic expectations for their program from both administration and alumni and it is now paying dividends. Some programs (like the ones I mentioned above) are still living on past glory and cave to pressure.

OL will never get the credit they are due, especially in modern era football where offensive players are putting up stats at an all-time high in the sport in general.