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I'm shocked he made the thread about him. 🤪

No one cares what taxes you have to pay lol

On 3/19/2024 at 11:18 AM, BlackSwarm6407 said:

Around 2 mil but that includes field, new track surface and lights. (baseball, softball & football)

Cheap.  Smart to do baseball and softball, too. 

On 3/18/2024 at 3:02 PM, BlackSwarm6407 said:

South Putnam's Wildman Field will be getting Turf starting in April and ready by end of July for the start of the 2024 season. It was approved by the board this past week

Awesome! They were REALLY good last year. 

I'll put them on the list. 

On 3/9/2024 at 10:17 AM, Impartial_Observer said:

I don’t eat fish……I don’t drink water either because fish eff in it. 

Pigs waller around in their own s*** all day, bet you like bacon and pork chops? 🤪

On 3/7/2024 at 5:32 PM, Fkfootball said:

Hey,  know the JC guys were getting on me a while back because they thought I was looking down on them. I've been working up in Seymour and North Vernon. Believe me, that is such a nice area. I like NV a lot. Really cool town to drive around. My only issue is that I don't know it very well and I didn't know where all the good eating spots are. Lol.

Millers Tavern fish sammy is better than their tenderloin. There I said it. 

17 hours ago, WWFan said:

Pick up Clarksville week 2? Would mean WW will have an opening next season. 

The week, exactly, I am not sure. 

16 hours ago, WWFan said:

I noticed Crawford now plays Brown County week 2 replacing Pekin. Wonder who Pekin will pick up. 

Tell City at home this year, and next year they will pick up Clarksville. 

Just strictly speaking "gyms"... gyms only. I'd take Paoli well before WW, and I have not been to the new Mitchell gym, but the old Mitchell gym-- Paoli would still be ahead of them for me. 

Sidenote- I would also take Paoli's gym over BC's, just showing it's not a bias thing. Love that gym. 

14 minutes ago, JQWL said:

Forgot about Oscar Lewellyn (5-11, 290). Oscar has started at NT for us the past two years. Sorry Oscar.

Never forget Oscar! Great name! 

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

All coaches adjust. Just like they did from the old cluster system. Just like they did for the success factor. Coaches will adjust once seeding is implemented down the road and then to ultimately a qualifier as that is inevitably the next step after seeding. The all-in cannot exist without the blind draw. 

lol 

8 minutes ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

But the regular season isn't even.  The ability to play anyone in the state when you want to isn't possible.  Teams are stuck playing the teams around them so whatever way you use to seed won't be fair.  In the NFL the schedule is chosen by the league but non-conference play in college football/basketball can be chosen by the schools involved.  They can travel and play who ever they want.  They can increase their Net or KenPom or whatever rating the selection committee is using.  High Schools can't do that.

I would argue the regular season is a way to get your team ready for the post-season.  You spend the nine weeks getting your team ready, getting a two deep roster and putting out film that will get your kids into college.  An all-in only hurts those schools who have to play a must win in week one and lose.  They complain they had to play a good team early whne they had the regular season to get their team ready for that game.  Sounds like the people who complain about everyone getting a trophy are worried that they won't get trophies if they have to play a hard game first...

That's exactly what it sounds like 

16 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

You're confusing sentimental feeling with real tangible meaning. Everyone loves to beat a rival, never disagreed with that, but your record and subsequent play during the first 9 weeks has ZERO real tangible meaning. 0-9 or 9-0 It.Literally.Doesn't.Matter. You're in the playoffs no matter what and your draw is defined by nothing more than a ping pong ball. You will NEVER be able to refute this under the current format no matter how hard you puff your chest.

And with your second paragraph you've literally just described a glorified 2.5 month long exhibition season. 

 

As you should be. In HS sports, everyone should make the post-season, I can't imagine thinking otherwise. 

Your perspective sounds like that of a fan. Nothing wrong with that, but I have never heard of a coach calling any regular season and exhibition. I've also never really heard of any energy in coaching circles to get the "all-in" approach changed. 

We'd like seeding-- but I don't think any of us really want teams excluded. 

3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Lol.

You can still have a fun 9 or 10 game regular season all while not being entitled to a postseason game. Novel concept I know. It's done in every other state in America. 

And yes regular season games under the current format are in fact meaningless. Whether you go 9-0 and 0-9, your postseason fate is sealed before the season even starts by virtue of the all-in format and your draw is literally determined by a ping pong ball. Literally nothing that happens in weeks 1-9 has a single bearing on the postseason. They are in fact meaningless and how it relates to the overall course of the season. A literal fact that cannot be refuted. 

They aren't, at all. Maybe from a fan's perspective? Idk hard to see where you're coming from with any of this, or have any energy towards some teams not getting in the tourney and that being a good thing for the sport. 

It's definitely meaningful--- how do you think we get prepared for the tourney? There, that refuted your alleged "fact"..... lol 

Just now, Footballking16 said:

Why should a postseason qualifier be limited to college and pro's? Literally every other state in America has a qualifier for their high school postseason format. Hell, 20 years ago back in my day you had to qualify for the CYO playoffs as early as 4th grade, they didn't just hand out trophies to everyone. 

And you absolutely are cheating teams when you don't value or recognize their regular season accomplishments. Why play the regular season in the first place if nothing is taken into consideration after the fact? 

As far as Ben Davis and Brownsburg being 8 minutes apart? Who cares. Cut 6A South in half, seed them 1-8 and this game is played in Mid-November like it should be. 

Who's handing out trophies now? 

Why play the regular season? Well because it's fun? ... kids enjoy it? children create life-long experiences/memories? children learn a lot from their athletic experience? I could list the reasons for a while. 

There is no one being cheated. 

Who cares whether they play 3 weeks earlier? Again, semantics.  

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I can't actually believe I am reading people say a football game is meaningless. Go watch Columbus East/North play--- tell me how meaningless it is. Brownstown/Seymour. Lawrenceburg East Central. Every Evansville game lol 

Meaningless if you aren't a competitor, I guess. Man, that's a tough sell... games are meaningless because everyone gets into a state tourney? That's wild and sort of soft, not going to lie. 

7 minutes ago, RegionFBFan said:

IHSAA make these changes now:

1. Adjust brackets to 32 in 6A and 1A, then split 5A - 2A with 61-64 schools in each.

2. Seed the Sectionals. Either complete seed or I’d be happy with seed top 2 and blind draw on the others as someone suggested earlier.

3. Neutral Site Semi State games

4. Keep LOS as home for all Championship games. 
 

Thats all. Too much to ask?

Is #4 in question? 

#3 is a GREAT idea. I love it. 

9 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

A system that allows 0-9 North Newton to play in the postseason falls at the expense of two teams like Brownsburg and Ben Davis playing each other in the 1st round is the very definition of watered-down. It should never happen in a format where the regular season actually has real meaning. 

That doesn't even match up. I said seed the sectionals. My god it's HS football, not college or the pros. None of these teams are getting cheated. 

Ben Davis and Brownsburg are 8 mins apart.. I mean, of course, they play a lot in the sectional? 

1 hour ago, Footballking16 said:

North Newton went 0-9 in the regular season last year. Average margin of defeat was 50 points on the head. Shut out in 5 of 9 regular season games. Lost 71-6 in opening round of sectionals likely at the expense of a North Judson/Pioneer first round match-up that pitted at the time two top 15 Sagarin teams in 1A against each other.

Why should every kid be able to play in a sectional game? A postseason berth should be earned, not the other way around. Every team making the postseason under the guise of the blind draw and really screwing with dynamicity and the competitiveness of the tournament has never really made sense to me. It's a watered down tournament.  

In your opinion, in my opinion every kid that plays HS football should get to play in the sectional. I don't really see any watered-downness. Seems like semantics to me, honestly. To each their own, but I see no way it's going to change. 

5 hours ago, Bobref said:

Again, you simply make these pronouncements, without any supporting rationale. A qualification format turns regular season games into playoff games. Who gets excited when two 4-4 teams play each other in Week 9? Nobody. But if a playoff qualifying spot is on the line, suddenly a ho-hum game turns into a playoff game. Better for players, coaches, fans … everyone.

Now, explain to everyone why the all-in, with its 9 weeks of practice games, is better for a high school football in Indiana.

There is nothing to support. Not allowing children to play a child's game is just ....not the route I'm going to vote for... ever. It's really not all that difficult to understand. 

More kids should get the opportunity to enjoy a post-season football game--you guys will be fine in the meantime, I promise. 

Calling 9 games of regular season practice games is a non-starter for me. Take your conversation up with someone else, it isn't changing. Your need for added incentive is absurd, honestly. 

6 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Says who? I never got to play in a football sectional, and I don’t feel deprived. You “deserve” what you earn. Apparently, thousands and thousands of kids all over the country are just ticking time bombs because they didn’t get to the playoffs in their respective states when they were in high school. Thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that in Indiana. 

That's a bit of a dramatic take. But sure, man. 

By not allowing every team in, we gain nothing. We aren't better off by not allowing teams in. 

I'd seed the top 2 teams using the Sagarin and blind draw the rest. Only changes I would like to see.  

On 2/16/2024 at 3:12 PM, Footballking16 said:

Sure you do, you give actual meaning to the regular season. Why should every team be entitled to play a sectional game? I've never heard of another postseason format that entitles an 0-9 team who loses every game by 50 points the opportunity to play for a state championship. 

Do you even have an example of a team losing every game by 50 points? 

I'm still failing to see what you gain, the regular season always matters, it literally prepares you for the tourney.

But the bottom line---- Every kid should be able to play in the sectional and that's not going to change, no real sense in entertaining the idea.  

9 minutes ago, BTF said:

Good point. Things are certainly different now than what they used to be. If I'm doing the math right, doesn't the risk for a player getting injured before the postseason go up approximately 10% by adding another game? Is it really worth it? 

Well-- yes, it does. 

I would argue you have 10% more fun 😉 and yes, imo, it is worth it. 

But-- they still get 40 reps or so even in an intrasquad scrimmage. 

5 minutes ago, BTF said:

As a fan, I don't care one way or another. I would imagine, as a coach, you're probably in the minority with regard to eliminating the scrimmage. I'm guessing most coaches would rather knock heads against another team in a practice game before kicking off when it actually counts. 

I don't think that is true. 

And to your last sentence-- at camp we get 4 whole practices against other teams. It was all filmed-- counting 7 on 7 reps+11 on 11 reps-- We were probably around 300-350 reps against other teams. That doesn't count our other 2 competition days. 

Now-- I would also be fine with keeping the scrimmage against an opponent in week 1 of regular practice and eliminating the intrasquad scrimmage, that's fine with me.  

@BTF what was your confusion? Big fan of scrimmages? 

I can't entertain the idea of "not everyone gets in the playoffs". One I don't think we'll ever see that happen here and two... I think all kids should get to play in the sectional.  I don't think we accomplish anything by not allowing certain teams in.  

10 minutes ago, Punttheball said:

Yeah, it was just an idea.  I'm not sure how ridiculous it is.  We already have 2 classes that are 32 teams.  Some people want it switched to be 1a and 6a not 5a and 6a.  I am not for that.  I would like all schools to play a 10th regular season game.  

I do too, taking out one of the scrimmages is the best route to do that, imo. 

4 minutes ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Even if we entertain that idea, there’s a three and a half hour gap between the starts of games. Still not sure how you fit five in per day.

8:00 AM

11:30 AM

3:00 PM

6:30 PM

10:00 PM?!?!

Not feasible.