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Probably really bad offenses happened or....

Really really good defenses

On 11/19/2023 at 1:43 PM, foxbat said:

To be accurate, AC is making their third straight visit to LOS in a row.  Win or not; especially given that that they are facing Lutheran, again, they kind of fit the mold of the spirit of the law behind SF.  Scecina ended up in that situation the first two years that SF tracking was in place and ended up in 2A with no blue rings.

Given the way that SF works, if the argument is that a team shouldn't be bumped up if they went to LOS twice in a row and got two red rings, couldn't a team that won state in Year 1 of the cycle and only got a regional in Year 2 make a compelling argument for not being bumped in that they were just good for the one year and, at least by the numbers, actually getting worse?  SF doesn't really address problems with precision, especially with just a two-year window, and the set points, regardless of acquisition sequence is just an artifact of that.

I think AC is gonna have to move up due to enrollment anyway. Some of the AC faithful could probably confirm or deny this a little better than I could but I know they've had a lot of kids coming in.

10 hours ago, littleviking75 said:

We did

You knew you were gonna play Luers too? Your fanduel has to have a wicked amount of money in it that could buy a $hit ton of high quality H2O with those future picks.

7 minutes ago, Donnie Baker said:

As soon as what’s his name and a few others start talking about free lunch and crap like that 

Usually it starts with the youth program before we get to free lunch.

On 11/18/2023 at 8:05 AM, dazed and confused said:

I'm thinking last weeks game with Luers and Bluffton... LCC and the Zebras 3rd and 4th IMO !

Congrats to Luers !!!

Yes, I was very much wrong. Very impressed with Luers front 7. I hadn't seen that from them all year. When you are wrong, you are wrong, and I was wrong. Congrats to them and good luck at state!

I've been in the wrong thread this whole week. This is way better than the Chatard/Knox one. Just a bunch of Catholics kissing each others butts over there. Just some good 'ole fashion humor over here.

10 minutes ago, tango said:

OK, did the IHSAA change the Success Factor rules so that a team who had been bumped and only accrued 2 points or less now goes down to the next lower class? If so, that would mean Ev. Memorial comes back down to 3A for 2024.  

Sure sounds that way. I always understood it as 2 points, a sectional win each year, or a regional win one year, kept you in that class, but what you have here isn't written that way.

15 minutes ago, Lysander said:

So you really think the administrators and parents who often struggle financially to keep the doors open (the LCC story is a remarkable one in that regard) are going to leave empty seats in the school because of a ridiculous IHSAA Class designation?  

Catholic schools can’t make it without parents lending a literal “physical” hand let alone leave seats empty.  You really can’t imagine how little Bill Sahm, President at Chatard, could care about what Class the football team is in.

If we can’t get past simply wrong (verging on ridiculous) assertions like this then there’s no hope for ever having any meaningful conversation.

I mentioned one Catholic school, said nothing about LCC or Chatard

1 minute ago, tango said:

There just isn't 300 kids beating down the door to get in. In fact, until this year, our enrollment was dropping annually, despite having a 7-8 year period of fairly good athletic success (football, boys & girls soccer titles). Our enrollment is dictated largely by that our of feeder schools. Theya re starting to go up, so our enrollment will go up. But it will never get to 850 or 900. The highest ever was 2011 at 815. 

I understand now.

1 minute ago, tango said:

It would be a dream for us if our enrollment put our facilities at capacity (850-900). We have a lot of room to spare.  

Would make sense to me. Especially with as much success as your having in 4A. Might be there a while. Why not have the enrollment be as close to it as you can get it.

1 minute ago, Just a dad said:

Not if that is all the room the school has. If they have additional room then yes. 

Would be interesting to see if their enrollment numbers change whenever they get success factored to 3A

36 minutes ago, tango said:

Find me a p/p that "restricts" enrollment. I'll wait. 

I coach with a guy that has a friend that coaches at Andrean. The coach said they will always have an enrollment that puts them right in the middle of 2A. Wouldn't this be considered "restricting" enrollment?

Last year, I started really working hard on the youth program at Rochester. Everyone better watch out in 2072. Rochester is gonna be opening up a can of whoopa$$ on everybody!!! Captain Insano shows no mercy!

2 minutes ago, jakone said:

Just my opinion but this Luers team is the least talented on paper to make it this far.

My mama said Sectional 35 and 36 were down pretty bad this year. Usually you've got Eastbrook that is pretty tough and Tipton that makes some noise. Eastside was okay, but not what they have been. 2A was definitely more wide open than normal this year.

1 hour ago, JUSTADAD17 said:

History says you're wrong.   Chatard has heard all of this before.   Knox has played nobody.  Happens every year with these rural teams and Sagarin - as it relates to Chatard and generally speaking - hasn't been wrong.   You can be condescending and hard headed all you want, but this is par for the course.  Heritage Hills in 2019 couldn't have talked more trash or been more naive.  Just like you.  Final?  34-3 Chatard.   Lawrenceburg a year ago.  Final?  34-14 Chatard and the defense this year is far better.  Tippy Valley talked.  40-7.  Delta was going to "run through Chatard's faces."  35-0 before Delta scored.   This movie is in syndicate....it's not new.   It's a rerun.  Chatard hasn't played Lakeview or Maconaquah.  You're right.   But if you think Knox beating up on those teams (again, zero games against top 64 rated schools) gives them a shot, I'd love a drink of your Kool Aid.   Chatard would name the score against every team Knox has played.  You can deny it all you want or discount anything you want.    Doesn't change anything.   Knox may keep it close for a while just because of the way they play, but they're. Ot bullying Chatard for 4 quarters.   Just not happening.  

I'm with you to an extent. I don't think anyone from Valley or Delta said they were gonna run through Chatard's face. I think a lot of people praised Valley for the season they had and were interested in what the game would look like, but i think most still said Chatard would beat Valley. I also think that was kind of the measuring stick for the playoffs and after seeing that, any public school that matched up with Chatard was going to get running clocked or close to it. If there was anyone dumb enough to say a 3A team was going to run through Chatard's face then i'm sure they were just trolling on here.

12 minutes ago, BSUKingsmen said:

14 had some big drops as well. #3 will be QB next year and be a favorite to win the 100 in track this spring.

Where's he winning the 100 at? We had a guy on our football team win the 100 a couple times during track season...but he got 10th at sectional.

17 hours ago, HNACReaper said:

Gotcha, I forgot that the sagarin has never been wrong and the projected winner always wins!  Honestly, we should probably just save everyone the risk of injury and anoint Chatard champs now.  
I don’t think that Knox thinks that at all.  I think that every team left should think they can win and if they don’t, they don’t belong here anyway. 

Chatards schedule is impressive and it is obviously why they are favored but I wouldnt instantly dismiss a team because their schedule, which they have no control over, is “weak”. 
If Chatard had the exact same team they have now but were from Royal Center you would still be praising whomever they were playing and have no idea because of their weak schedule.

You can only control whats in front and when it boils down, its two teams and the one that executes will win regardless of what their weak schedule or sagarin says.  

Chatard thinks they can win.

Chatard is going to execute more than Knox.

Regardless of schedules and sagarin, Chatard is going to win.

25 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Another stupid decision by the IHSAA not to have semi-state games at neutral sites.  This game would be better played at someplace like Lafayette Jefferson's Scheumann Stadium.

You know that field has turf right? You would be okay with that?

Three of Luers games they won by a combined score of 6 points. Less than a touchdown. They very well could have came into this playoffs 3-6. And that's without playing two of the top teams in the SAC. I'm sorry, I'm just not going to get on board that this Luers team is the favorite in this game. I think they have better athletes at some positions than LCC, but overall both sides of the ball and special teams, I'm going with LCC. I said it once and I'll keep saying it, unless Luers does prove me wrong which they might, the two best teams in the North played each other back in week 2 of sectionals.

1 hour ago, Bash Riprock said:

Agreed...still trying to figure out how they won last 2 games scoring 2 total offensive TD's.  Good thing they were playing Carolina and NE.  

There are some bad offenses in the NFL this year...my concern is that the Colts are one of them.

I get that feeling all the time, and yet up until this week, we were the only team in the NFL to score over 20 points in each of our games. The streak would've ended if it weren't for our defense scoring against Carolina, but all the other games the offense has put up some decent numbers

Dullaghan is def on mine. 313 wins, 8 state championships, was an 8 year camper at his summer football camp. Going to a small school, he gave me the chance to perform against bigger school talent and get the chance to be seen by different colleges. He has impacted so many different programs around the state than people can imagine.

1 minute ago, foxbat said:

Schwartz had a heck of a game against LaVille on the defense.

Absolutely as well as our game. I always make a point to go and shake the hand of players I felt stood out. Once i got done shaking the coaches hands, I found him as fast as I could. Luckily I just had to look up and find the tallest player on the field. He does an excellent job of getting hands on and creating separation. A very very great player. I have a lot of respect for the young man.

My mama said take the over in total points this game. These boys gonna light the scoreboard up!

2 minutes ago, temptation said:

So, something has to give right?

Merrillville seems to always have a head scratcher too.

Maybe they got it out of their system when they played Crown Point

16 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Gotta disagree here... Luers presents ALOT of matchup problems for Lcc... that D end is just one of em... if Lcc is to hav a pig in pokes chance in this game... its between the ears.... jmho

LCC will have a better quick game passing the ball than what Bluffton had to equalize that. Bluffton's screens weren't ran near as well as LCC will run them and was still effective against Luers. The slants and stick concept will be key for LCC. I guess we will find out Friday.

1 hour ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Happy for Coach Nay, however, be lying if I wasn't hoping to see Rochester win and send LCC back to 1a. 🙂

 

 

Fingers crossed they get sent down South in the new alignment like they have in past years in 2A