Tippy

1 hour ago, BendNotBreak said:

Tippy if u can find a higher one class State ranked WL team than 42 u mite have a case... 😊

I think WL was ranked 8th in 1950 when they played Jeff.  8-0 Jeff played 8-0 WL on November 9, 1950.  7000 fans showed up for the game despite snow flurries and bitter winds.  Jeff scored on a 76 yard pass play from Bill Bone to Carl Braun in the 1st.  WL scored on a 6 yard run by Bill Ellis in the 3rd.  WL was called for a penalty on the extra point, and the longer extra point was missed.  Jeff won 7-6.  The bad weather might have hurt Jeff's great passing game, so its hard to say if the 42 team or the 50 team was better.  I'm going with the 1950 team.  That penalty caused WL to miss the extra point.  The game could have ended in a tie and WL Would have been ranked higher.  I talked to someone that played on the 1950 Jeff football team.  I told him the WL players thought the refs made a bad call on that extra point try.  He said to me, "Oh Boo Hoo."

8 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

I never won that argument.. 😆  42 has a rightful claim... their members beat the so called National Champs and they were never beaten... hard to argue that... think the final state poll had them around 5th?

Here are the WL 1943 Season Results.  The SB Washington game was to be for the State Championship.

39 Indy Washington 0

21 Hoopeston, IL 0

14 Lafayette Jeff 0

20 Peru 0

41 Frankfort 0

27 Monticello 2

14 Lafayette Jeff 0

25 Crawfordsville 7

  0 SB Washington 27

1 hour ago, BendNotBreak said:

WL lore says the undefeated 42 team.. scored on once.. coached by Malcomb Mackey ast coach Gorden Straley..was National Champs. As members of that team forming the Meridian Athlectic Club, were said to have defeated the National Champ Junior Bears at Soldier Field... at least it's how I heard the story.. 😁

I think some of the South Bend teams were better than WL in 1942.  WL did beat Jeff 6-0 on Oct. 2, 1942, but Indy Shortridge also beat Jeff 13-7 in 1942.  Frankfort was the team that scored on WL that year.  WL beat Frankfort 20-6.  In 1942 there was a mix up and WL played a very bad Monticello team twice.  WL beat Monticello 72-0 on Oct. 9, and had to play them again on November 6.  WL won that game 53-0

19 hours ago, nmsu_aggie said:

Want to give a shoutout to the game tomorrow night at Gordon Straley Field in West Lafayette.  It will be a special night not only because the Red Devils will be playing one of their most respected rivals in the Rensselaer Bombers, and not just because it will be homecoming, but more importantly they will be celebrating 100 years of playing football at West Lafayette High School. There will be many alumni players, coaches and others there to celebrate a storied history.

Through 2020, West Lafayette HS had the fourth most wins of any school in the State.  They have numerous other accomplishments that are listed in the IFCA record book as well.

I hope to take some pictures of some of the festivities associated with this special night and post them on this thread.

I think the best team WL ever had was the 1950 team. Jeff was number 1 in the state and WL played them the last game of the season and almost beat them.  The score was 7-6.  The score of the game tonight will probably be 42-6.

18 minutes ago, BendNotBreak said:

Or jus wait for the next Gen to come on line..all together.. with a huge athletic line and 8 Anthrops... 😆

How many children does Danny Anthrop have?  Maybe he will have about 5 boys and Jackson can have 5 boys.  That's what its going to take for LCC to beat WL.

1 hour ago, Fballfan15 said:

Tipton is incredibly young. It also didn’t help that they lost their QB Vince Hoover for the season as well as their best offensive weapon Zay Mahaney to a torn labrum. Tipton will be back on the rise after this season. They’ll return 19 starters, get Mahaney back and bring in a loaded 8th grade group. 

I hope so!  Its not much fun when WL beats everyone in the Conf. by 30+ points.  LCC/Tipton should be a good game.  With both teams 1-3, nobody is going to say much about the game

4 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

So... Lcc was 1-19 in a 20yr stretch vrs WL.. the lone win in double OT... looks like the new normal to me...

From 1971-1990 LCC was 2-18 vrs WL.  LCC won in 1976 and 1989.  This normal is worse than the last normal.  Check out the scores!

1977 - WL 7 LCC 0

1978 - WL 29 LCC 6

1979 - WL 21 LCC 6

1980 - WL 13 LCC 0

1981 - WL 22 LCC 0

1982 - WL 14 LCC 0

1983 - WL 33 LCC 6  (LCC 0-10 in 1983)

1984 - WL 60 LCC 0

1985 - WL 35 LCC 6

1986 - WL 20 LCC 0

1987 - WL 31 LCC 13

1988 - WL 23 LCC 6

2017 - WL 49 LCC 0

2018 - WL 34 LCC 0

2019 - WL 50 LCC 0

2020 - WL 47 LCC 14

2021 - WL 43 LCC 7

2022 - WL 52 LCC 21

2023 - WL 37 LCC 7

12 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

This 7 yr stretch may now hold the record for the longest losing streak to WL in Lcc history... previously held by Lcc 70-75??  As for the HC.. all that's left is to determine who gets WL... Western or HH.....

The record is 12 years from 1977-1988.  Most of those games in the 1970's and 80's against WL were competitive.  The games the last 7 years have not been close.  HH will probably get WL.  Maybe Indy Lutheran should play WL this year, that would be a good game.

MY "OH MY" Teams of the week are all the teams in the Hoosier Conf., except Hamilton Heights and West Lafayette.  When WL lost to Harrison 42-6, it looked like WL might not be as great this year as they were in past years..  It looks like you don't have to be that good to beat most of the teams in the Hoosier Conf.  There used to be a lot of good teams,  like Tipton and Rensselaer, in the Hoosier.  Tipton had not scored a point the last two weeks and LCC has only scored 7 points the last two weeks. WL has beaten LCC the last 7 years.  WL only beat LCC 37-7 this year.  That is one point better than last year when WL won 52-21.  Rensselaer, Benton Central and Tipton, OH MY!

This is the worst Terre Haute team I have ever seen.  It looks like Terre Haute North will be 0-10 this year.  Bloomington South beat THN 66-0. Bloomington South is good, but 66-0.

My other "OH MY" Team is East Central.  They beat Moeller 38-28.  Ben Davis beat Moeller 49-28.  East Central is not as good as Ben Davis, but it doesn't look good for the rest of 4a. East Central should win state again, unless something crazy happens.  If anyone else has an "OH MY" team, post it.  This is just for fun!  Anything could happen!  Terre Haute North  could turn it around, and some other team could win state in 4A.

I think these two teams are about even.  I will say Brownsburg wins by a point.  If I say that, then maybe Cathedral will win. This will probably be the best game of the week.

On 8/19/2023 at 11:41 AM, foxbat said:

True, but West Lafayette always loses players from year to year, but the dropoff I saw last night was noticeable ... especially on offense.  Harrison probably had at least three or four times or more where they denied WL a fourth down conversion of three or less yards.  They also limited WL to zero points in the first half.  Harrison converted two turnovers into points and made WL lose their cool on a couple of occasions that led to points as well.  Even Harrison's 2nd string put up points.

WL only mustered 85 yards rushing and only 111 in the air.  Had at least two personal foul that looked like they came from frustration after big plays and a defensive encroachment penalty that gave Harrison new life in their own territory.  By far, the night belonged to Harrison on "ooooh" kinds of hits both on offensive plays and special teams.  That typically doesn't happen to WL until they get to the likes of Brebeuf.

Given what I saw in the LCC-Harrison scrimmage and what I saw from WL last night, albeit I'll certainly conceded that it might have been an anomaly, the LCC-WL game will be well-worth attending if you don't have folks don't have any home team plans.

I think this is probably the best team Harrison has had in years, and this is the worst team WL has had in years.  Harrison was tired of getting beat by WL and took it to them.  I'm not saying WL is a bad team, but they are not as good as they have been.  There have been many times when a good NFL player, like George K, comes through the system and a team can ride that for 6-8 years and then they cool off.  WL might be in the cooling off period.

4 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Has anyone seen an LCC-Seeger score?

If LCC plays like last week's scrimmage and West Lafayette looks like they did tonight against Harrison, it's going to come down to that game for the HC West. 

Don't know if West Lafayette had lots of injuries or sick players or a long bus ride over to Harrison, but they look very different from previous years.  Harrison defense did a nice job of keeping their offense off-balance and kept frustrating them.  Big stops when WL was in Harrison territory, big takeaways in the second half that led to points.  Offense did a nice job of pounding away ... a lot more running this game vs. last year's, but just enough passing when the secondary was staring into the backfield and leaning forward.

WL lost a lot of players from last year.  LCC just might give WL a game this year.  

13 hours ago, foxbat said:

Despite being Catholic, sometimes faith is understanding that what CAN be seen is what to bet the smart money on.

Last season Jeff lost to Cathedral 43-12 at home.  I haven't seen or heard anything that says, in comparison to last season's match-up,  that Jeff is significantly better or Cathedral is significantly worse.

 

I think it will be about the same as last year.  I think Cathedral wins 42-14.

9 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Sorry. I didn't mean any offense. I believe I'm banned from the Catholic Church but enjoy my weekly discussions with priests on the sidelines of football games. Good people. 

I knew you were just giving me a hard time. lol  Merry Christmas to you and your family!

58 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

I'd imagine if this were still the case, Jeff would have a lot more seasons like the one they had this year. 

I don't know the number of Catholics that went to Jeff in the 1980's and 1990's, so I don't know if there are more or less today.  There are many Catholics at Jeff that don't play football.  I just know a lot of Catholics that went to Jeff over the years and some of them were very good baseball, football, and basketball players.

1 hour ago, hhpatriot04 said:

One of his relatives your old fling? 😆 

No, I didn't think I should be talking about this sort of thing on here.  I can talk more about the Catholic church if you are interested.

40 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

Right after they get that blue ring and medal? lol 

All the names I put on here were Catholic and played or coached at public schools, mostly at Lafayette Jeff.  The only one that got a blue ring and medal was the Jeff baseball coach when Jeff won state in 1969 and 1973.  Many Catholics don't go to LCC, they go to Jeff.  Jeff must have really had an advantage before 1958 when all the Catholic boys in Lafayette had to go to Jeff.

6 minutes ago, BTF said:

Lol. To say Memorial and Reitz would beat Snider, Valpo, Whiteland, Merrillville, and North Side is an absolute stretch. I have my doubts about New Pal as well. I think East Central and Roncalli would have been favored however. Not saying they'd win, just saying they'd be favored. It's all speculation. Unfortunately those in Central and South will just have to deal with the fact that Valpo is the best time in the second biggest division. Hard pill to swallow, I know. Northern football is good. See the Carroll/HSE score. 

Northern football is good, but not as good as they were years ago.  Gary and South Bend had the best teams in the state for many years.  Its a good thing Valpo won 5a or we would all be singing "Song of the South" by "Alabama"

1 hour ago, foxbat said:

 

There are actually a few kids that played LCC youth and junior high football that then ended up at other schools in the area ... in part because they WEREN'T Catholic.  Schools like Faith Christian and St. James Lutheran didn't/don't have youth football or high school football, so the LCC program became a place where kids without a school football program could come to play ... at least until high school.  Same with homeschooled kids too.  Some of those kids ended up heading to public schools after their time at Faith, St. James, or homeschooling and ended up being strong contributors to those programs and also played in college too.  Of course, there's a fair share of Catholic school kids that ended up at those public schools too.

All the names I have put on here were Catholic at one time.  I don't know if they still are Catholic.  A lot of people leave the Church.

26 minutes ago, Bullhorn99 said:

Pretty sure that's not the case, though I think he played 1 year for LCC's Jr. High team (could be wrong though).

Clayton Richard was Catholic.  PM me if you want to know how I know he was Catholic.

16 hours ago, foxbat said:

LCC could have used them in 2002 ... didn't even make it to the sectional championship that year.

All-State Football Players for Lafayette Jeff that were Catholic and members of St. Lawrence church.

Jason Sowders 1992

Brett Rhatigan 2000

McCutcheon All-State Player that was Catholic

Clayton Richard 2000, 2001, 2002

LCC could have used all of those players.  Someday I might have a complete list. I'm sure there are 100 other names that I don't know about right now.

24 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

Every private has an advantage if you classify by enrollment only.

I know Lafayette Jeff has an advantage with all of those Catholics going to Jeff.

6 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

The huge advantage 1, 2 and 3A privates have has nothing to do with recruiting or transfers.

LCC has no advantage.  They had bad teams for years.  Many Catholics in the area go to Jeff.  About every 10 years they have some good players come through the system.  I think public schools have gone down hill in the past 50 years, and the Catholic schools haven't changed.  LCC can't seem to beat WL.  Maybe we should just get rid of class sports.  That might make everybody happy.  LCC is in 2a and if they went to 3a they would probably never win.  But that's what some people want.

56 minutes ago, foxbat said:

Depends on the density of the area.  Here in Lafayette, there are six Catholic churches that service the Twin Cities.  St. Mary and St. Boniface are just about five blocks from each other.  St. Lawrence is about a mile and a half from the Cathedral.  St. Ann is about a mile from the Cathedral, and St. Thomas Aquinas is about 2.5 miles from the Cathedral.  Blessed Sacrament is the furthest ... about four miles away.  All six feed into LCC as well as some of the other parishes from areas like Delphi and even Attica.  Of course, those parishes also feed into Jeff, Harrison, McCutcheon, and West Lafayette too. 

Here are some more Catholics that lived in Lafayette in the 1980's and 90's and ended up at Jeff.  

Denise Knoth

Veronica Knoth

Julie Jacot

Kristina Brickler

Brian Koning

Rob Larrabee

Monica, Michelle, and David Matheson

Tony Roswarski

Terry Ruppe

Laurie, Shawn and Pat Rody

Ryan Rush

John Deerr (He was QB for the Jeff football team in 1943)

Like I said before, Lafayette Jeff can thank the Catholics for their success in sports.  I always wonder how good LCC would have been if all those Catholics didn't go to Jeff.  It was said in Lafayette during the 1940's, that if the Catholics ever had their own school they could beat Lafayette Jeff.