Grover

Are you not familiar with the socioeconomics of the teams Coach Moore had in Florida?

The goal of these arguments is to get the big bad schools out of their favorite schools tournament. I'm reminded of an article I read in the (Johnson County) Daily Journal the year before 6A was formed. CG had just beaten Whiteland and the article lamented the fact that they were in the same division. At the time Whiteland was around 1800 and CG around 2300. The article claimed there was no way Whiteland should have to compete against a school that was so much bigger. There was no mention of the fact that CG would still have to compete against schools with 2000 more students than CG. That didn't matter. What mattered to the author was getting CG out of Whiteland's way. I think that is what is being repeated here.

Ben Davis won the 6A title in 2017. Warren in 2018. How many of their students get free/reduced lunches?

Clearly there are a few posters here who don't know Dick.

I think the biggest advantage comes from being able to control enrollment and not having your hallways filled with kids who don't participate in extra-curriculars.

Easily done. Coach will have fun expanding the playbook with Tayven at the helm. Gonna be fun to watch.

No thanks to the spread. I don't care about the number of stars our kids get. Not sure we've ever had a 4-star recruit but I love our kids anyway.

It has not been discontinued. It does suck.

You don't get it. Not the first time.

Imagine beating Warren Central and Ben Davis only to hear somebody tell you how weak your opponents were prior to that. LOL

We will. Explain that to the senior who has played all season but got hurt and now must watch from the bleachers.

No, but there is a limit on the number of coaches that will be honored during the medal ceremony. This rule sucks too.

The IHSAA rule to limit the sidelines to 75 players still sucks.

So if it is split in half (again) you are left with 2600-5400. Other than taking the biggest schools out of your team's division does that fix anything?

17th per IHSAA. I linked it earlier.

Center Grove would dominate the second division.

No we can't.

Per the IHSAA Center Grove is 17th in enrollment. While I think your idea is a bad one, at least put my Trojans where they belong. https://ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick resources/Enrollments & Classifications/football schools 19-20.pdf

Won't let me edit but CG has a defensive end and a kicker at IU so that's two.

Could be wrong but I think CG only has one grad in the Big Ten.

Yes. In the stadium that was built the year after the Avon game.

1. Possibly. I'd be curious to hear how many schools lose good players to jobs. 2. Okay. Most camps and clinics are BS but there are benefits to be had in the right programs. 3. Maybe. I have heard there are other MIC schools in lower socioeconomic areas that have coaches who don't have to teach. That's not the case at CG. 4. Granted, but I'm not sure that is high on the list of attributes college recruiters are seeking. 5. That's a silly comment. I granted the better facilities and equipment in my post that you quoted.

Walk me through the benefits of an upperclass area as it relates to football other than affording better equipment and a better stadium.

100% agree

You caught us. It's a great strategy. Take your 4,000 yard rusher, park him all season, then bring him out in the regional championship game. Pretty crafty, eh?