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Reminds me of Pacino's character, Ivan in Author, Author, upon confronting, LArry Kotzwinkle, the guy that his wife ran off with ... Ivan : I have done many terrible things in my life but I have never put another man's wife in my bed. Larry Kotzwinkle : Wasn't she married to that Spanish painter when you slept with her? Ivan : Don't prove me wrong, Larry, I hate it when I'm proven wrong.

Seems to be an apologist's approach. If you can't prove everyone, then it doesn't exist? Not sure how you are getting stereotyping anymore than @swordfish's initial post about evidence showing right wing being more tolerant of free speech. I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean everyone, so I took it as such, that he didn't mean everyone and I argued the general point taking definitive figureheads from each party and pointing out very specific responses to exactly the same type of issue. But if you want to go beyond just a couple of folks, then go to the video and listen to the many AUDIENCE members who are cheering and chanting about beating folks or taking them out to the parking lot or cheering paying for their court costs if they assault someone else. That's much more beyond the idea of just one person. As for folks calling out folks or going after them in public, I don't condone it on either side and have never condoned it on either side. I have offered up contrary items when someone posts something from the "higher ground" side of the argument in contrast, but that isn't condoning anything ... merely pointing out that the ground isn't all that high. Similarly, my point in countering @swordfish's post had nothing to do with claiming that any side didn't do X or do X at all or to say that it was OK to do X because the other side also does X, but to offer up that the "higher ground argument," especially with regard to leadership, isn't really there. As for how does it make me feel, I feel more for the man who was beaten by a mob at Charlottesville or for the young woman who was run over. Doesn't mean that I don't feel for the guy in the MAGA hat who had his meal interrupted, etc., but I care more for the other victims. As for not caring, I will freely say that I don't really care about the guy who was asked to leave a memorial service at a Canadian university for New Zealand massacre victims who showed up in his MAGA hat to tell folks there that the vigil was meaningless. I care much more for the victims than for the guy trying to get a rise out of people with his red hat.

I'm not so sure about this ... take a look at Obama having a heckler/protester in an audience and Trump having one. Very different responses.

I hit submit before finishing and figured I'd edit after getting ready for classes ... apparently the system has a really short window for editing your own posts ... Add on ... As Nielsen pretty much moved along with what the President wanted, like Kelly, her mentor, she also gave some pushback over time. Also, like Kelly, it was spotty as to how it happened. Sometimes Kelly appeared like the adult in the room and, other times, it seemed like Kelly was OK with driving the car of vandals to TP a house in the next subdivision. Eventually, whether Kelly got tired or Trump got tired of Kelly can certainly be argued. Similarly, whether Trump finally tired of Nielsen telling him the things he wanted to do were illegal and then going along with most of the stuff that wasn't illegal anyway or whether Neilsen finally tired of telling Trump that it was illegal will likely be debated. As for other reasons, she's not leaving to "run his campaign," she's not leaving "to take a lobbyist job," she's not leaving "because she's likely not to be Speaker of the House even if the GOP wins the mid-terms," she's not leaving so "she can then tell all the folks that the President likes to lie because it's fun," ...

From the article you posted ... Nielsen did not resign willingly, a person close to her told CNN, but was under pressure to do so. Nielsen did not fight nor grovel to keep her job, the source said. Nielsen should be staying for a week of transition, another White House official said. ... Nielsen "believed the situation was becoming untenable with the President becoming increasingly unhinged about the border crisis and making unreasonable and even impossible requests," a senior administration official tells CNN. Trump kept her on for over two years. She was one of the ones pushing back on Trump's "shut down the border" talk from last week. She's one of the ones that caused the President's sure-handedness last week with border closure to turn into :Well, maybe we'll give them a year or so." He was not happy with that. He hates having to reverse course ... which is typically the result of a weekend tweetstorm that hasn't been well thought out. The last border issue was Trump's last straw, but frankly, everything else that she did while she was there had Trump's blessing on it ... until it didn't. Kind of like DeVos and Special Olympics. The reason she looked like a deer in the headlights defending it is because it wasn't her idea. The reasons that Nielsen had remained for so long was for similar reasons ... she was along with Trump's ideas ... until she tried to make a more reasonable choice. In the difference between the two, Trump could pretend that it was his idea to restore Special Olympics funding and make it look like he overrode DeVos ... with his base, he can't be the one saying that he was overriding Nielsen, so she had to go. Then again, we can look to several others who also were with the President as one of the "best people" right up until there was a crossways moment. There's a continuing pattern with all of these "best people."

Now Hiring ... https://www.yahoo.com/news/kirstjen-nielsen-resigns-233736783.html Wonder if Nielsen left because she got crossways with Trump over his "shut down the border" act last week or because she saw the light?

This seemed to have slipped completely under the radar screen this week ... Trump nominates Cain for the Fed: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/04/710023657/trump-to-recommend-pizza-magnate-herman-cain-for-federal-reserve-post I'm assuming that all of the fiscal conservatives, both on and off this board, will just love this ... well at least the ones who say they are, but actually aren't. Similarly, I'm assuming that the folks with the quick-out-of-the-holster Biden memes will also have some just waiting for Cain too. If the idea of someone like Cain being nominated to the Fed, especially on the heels of the almost nomination of Moore doesn't convince us that we've normalized this kind of recklessness, then we're pretty close to reaching the event horizon of politics and leadership in the country.

Since it's repeat day, I'll oblige.

I think that was someone else who said that quote above that was attributed to me about crickets and the link being brought up in the forum. I believe that was @swordfish's post.

That was the March 31 version as the story broke over a week ago. Here's the story 4-5 days later: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2019-04-04/man-arrested-for-alleged-sword-attack-over-maga-hat-spat FTA: Scott Sweeney told the San Francisco Chronicle that he was in the same neighborhood about 30 minutes before the incident and saw a man with a MAGA hat and a sword tucked into the back of his jacket. The man, Sweeney said, was shouting homophobic slurs at him. "In my mind I didn't think it was a real sword until we came out later and police were on the scene and there was blood and the hat on ground," he said. The guy with the sword doesn't just seem to be accessorizing if he's out yelling homophobic slurs at folks.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Sword-wielder-in-MAGA-hat-slashes-man-13729404.php

Amen!

Not putting any side on the moral high ground. Matter of fact, just pointing out that the side claiming the moral high ground and pushing the moral high ground, especially on this issue, has a very big beam in the White House in its eye.

I'm not defending whether it was amended at the time or what her understanding of it was. That amendment has Roosevelt written all over it and it was the timing of the adoption being the only thing that separated whether it actually happened from whether it did. Look at the history of that amendment and its timing. It wasn't something, like the 25th, that took on different meaning/significance based on Kennedy's assassination or that lingered in flux with Garfield's assassination and Wilson's disabled state.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/01/health/minnesota-boy-robotics-car-trnd/index.html FTA: Due to a genetic condition, Cillian Jackson, 2, can't walk. But the Minnesota boy now motors around in style, thanks to some enterprising students at his local high school. It all started when Cillian's physical therapist told his parents about a program called Go Baby Go, which provides modified toy cars to children with limited mobility. They looked into it, but there wasn't a Go Baby Go chapter near the Jackson family's home in Farmington. And motorized wheelchairs can cost more than $1,000. So the parents turned to the robotics team at Farmington High School and asked if the students would be willing to take on the project. The students accepted the challenge. Using plans and models from Go Baby Go, they got to work, modifying a Power Wheels toy car to fit little Cillian and give him more freedom in his movements.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/teens-praised-teaching-boy-autism-skateboard-birthday-brought-tears-100043417.html FTA: A mother from South Brunswick, N.J. shared an emotional note on her community’s Facebook page after a recent experience with her son, 5-year-old Carter, at a skatepark. Kristen Braconi took Carter, who is on the autism spectrum and has ADHD, and his behavioral therapist to the park to celebrate his fifth birthday, where a group of older kids noticed him playing on his scooter. The teens took it upon themselves to teach Carter how to skateboard. “They were absolutely amazing with him and included him and were so beyond kind it brought me to tears,” the mother shared on Facebook, including a few videos from the day. “I caught a video of them singing [“Happy Birthday”] to my son and one of the kids gave him a mini skateboard and taught him how to use it. I can’t even begin to thank these kids for being so kind and showing him how wonderful people can be to complete strangers.”

https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-attacked-twitter-constitutional-mistake-was-she-1381693

By your own article, I, of all people, am aware that there is some irony that I am leaving while a man who has bragged on tape about his history of sexual assault sits in the Oval Office, and a man who has preyed on underage girls is running for the Senate with the full support of his party," Franken, D-Minn., said in emotional speech on the Senate floor. His blasting was not blaming the GOP for his ouster, but instead calling out just what I posted as well. If you are going to shout from the other side of the aisle that Franken should go, you shouldn't have to yell over the Access Hollywood tape to do it. Is there anything incorrect in what he said about the President in that situation? Also, the Democrats also pushed Conyers to retirement as well over sexual misconduct issues. Honestly, what would it take for the GOP to decide to do the same for the President? The answer is, nothing because it isn't going to happen. Matter of fact, just look at the responses that folks in Alabama had about Moore when they made statements to the effect that, even if Moore did what he was accused of, it didn't matter because you can't have a liberal elected Senator in Alabama. That's pretty much the same issue at play here with where the GOP is today on tariffs, trade, debt, deficits, swampism, embracing strongmen, and a whole bunch of other "shifts" in the party platform based on the current President.

No, not at all. Your idea, not mine. Purging can come from any direction. Can certainly be based on racist, misogynistic, etc. activity, but could certainly be as simple as purging the old rolls to make room for newer blood or shifts in ideology. The President is working on purging his party over ideology and opposition to himself. Again, my point was actually looking at both parties over similar issues and merely observing that Franken was forced out mainly due to calls and push from his own party. Similarly, if Biden goes, it'll likely be from push of his own party. That has not been seen, on this issue, from the GOP side ... especially in the case of the one guy who actually has cases lining up waiting the go ahead. As for Clinton, I see him as irrelevant to the situation at hand unless he's planning to run in the upcoming race. It's been a couple of decades since he's been in the mix, but if the issue is pointing to Clinton then that kind of just shores up the issue with the GOP as they took the moral high ground that he was "diddling" around and used that as a rallying cry to gin up, specifically, the Evangelical base, so that should also have them in the position of purging their own too a couple of years ago ... but that didn't happen and won't happen either.

Ask Al Franken.

Here's a journal article specifically concerning attitudes, reasons for, reasons, against, etc. windpower in three Indiana counties: Benton, Boone, and Tippecanoe. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/75d4/1e29fbea231623c8fe6139a52dac7c549ad0.pdf As for my belief, I've got a whole bunch of other things on my plate that are within my pay grade that need more immediate attention, so a complete and final solution, from my perspective, will most likely be a future endeavor.