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5 minutes ago, AG said:

Schools like IU and Purdue are trying to compete with the likes of Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. To do so, they have to be clever and use all of their resou

Come on here? Indiana and Purdue ain’t ever in a hundred million years Going to get in the big three circle with these Indiana elite “marginal D1” athletes.  I know what your getting at ,but it takes years and years of landing 4and 5 star athletes. Starting with indiana high school kids. 

I guess your point was lost by me? 

No the kids are not forced to go anywhere. 

1 hour ago, TrojanDad said:

Then please explain your me, me, me era is here in context to the thread you started......I must have missed it.

27 minutes ago, Goose10 said:

100%.  No one forced them to go to IU in this case or wherever they end up.  The decision is up to the student athlete to decide where they go play.  If a POW at IU is better for them than playing for a smaller state school then good for them. 

I have never once, in this thread abashed or chided students, or their decisions to select the college they wanted to attend. 

You all  jumped on that stage coach. And it left town. 

3 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

Any young man that chooses to play as a PWO is not a me, me, me person.

Those are your words, not mine. 

4 minutes ago, TrojanDad said:

I think he gets the bigger picture

Pretty selfish, for the health of indiana smaller colleges. 
me ,me ,me-era is here. 

36 minutes ago, JustRules said:

Allowing more kids to play college football. Oh the horror!

Participation Numbers don’t change. 

10 hours ago, DT said:

I believe we read earlier in this thread that Coach Allen's intent is to follow the Nebraska model of the 70-95 period and "build" a sub roster of PWO players.   We could be looking at an expansion from 2 or 3 to possibly 20 or 30

How can that not have an impact on smaller in  state schools down the trough?

This, not only Nebraska but Alabama in that early time period. 

31 minutes ago, JustRules said:

I believe that's what he was saying. The cost difference can vary as well. I know a football player at Franklin who was given enough scholarship money likely due to his ability to play football (he's a good student too) that he's paying very little to attend. My son had a friend who was a good swimmer and recruited to Wabash. His academic scholarships, grants, and work study got him down to $14k/year. He was also recruited to UIndy and looked at Purdue but received no scholarship offers from them. Purdue would have been more expensive than Wabash for him.

The schools could not exist if not for bringing athletes in the door.

Not a good look for Indiana, at near the bottom of the BIG class rating. also. Mark Hagan all ready to coach at Texas. Unless Fred ante's up to keep him.

I understand this, grants. The schools would not be able to keep their doors open If they didn’t reserve over half of their grants in aid  for athletes. 

6 hours ago, 1st_and_10 said:

D3 NO ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS

As a matter of fact, DIII schools in Indiana would not be able to keep their doors open if not for athletes deciding to enroll to further their sport careers. The sole reason they reserve over half academic scolis for athletes. 

1 hour ago, 1st_and_10 said:

The reality is DT, regardless if they went to Marian, Franklin, Hanover, St. Francis, Wabash, UIndy, etc. they are going to walk out with some debt (maybe more as most D2, NAIA schools are private).  

D1 FBS Schools get 85 Scholarships for 85 players

D1 FCS get 63 Scholarships for up to 85 players (Butler & Valpo are in the Pioneer League and do not offer Football Scholarships)

D2 Football gets 36 scholarships for up to 85 players

D3 NO ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS

NAIA gets 24 Scholarships

 

Most if not all D3 schools set aside ,half of their scoli money ,or more, for athletics, so your statement is a little misleading. 

Add all state linebacker Caleb McCoy , to the list.

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

BINGO 

 

Then Tom needs to  put the money out there, and  Don't dangle a carrot in front of these young men's  noses. When they could very well be playing or starting, with scoli money at another institution in Indiana. This will weaken the  the smaller schools rosters. Not fair for Tom to glut the "Indiana's best" marginal players. 

Allen has a distinct advantage with “Indiana’s best” marginal high school players , to the disadvantage of the smaller schools.  It’s a Lot easier for these kids to accept a walk on to IU ,than try to get the help needed from parents and coaches to amassing film , statistics ,data necessary to cull a scoli from these other schools. Some don’t have the help or no one will give them the help.  

I would venture to guess 1/3 or more of these walk ons would be getting everything paid for at other schools. Getting the best talent in the state has nothing to do with depleting the available talent for other non-major school in the state. 

On 1/9/2020 at 2:49 PM, Coach Nowlin said:

I think the portal changed those rules where schools could block other schools etc etc  

This for Cronk also. As His old coach had him in the fold. And Allen block the move.  

On 1/31/2020 at 1:49 PM, Coach_K said:

Michigan State, Oklahoma, Utah?  

Looks like all their QBs are seniors.

Won’t be Michigan State. That was blocked. 

Preferred walk on roster for Indiana University is bulging at the seams with Indiana kids. Depleting the available instate athletes for smaller state colleges and universities. including ,but not Limited to.other In state D1schools. Most of these kids will never see the light of day in their career at IU. whether Allen thinks he’s being generous or what. This is not a good thing. 

Yes , he probably would have been the third string QB. Good for the transfer portal. 

Good luck Gabe.

They are elevating an assistant to take over.

32 minutes ago, Robert said:

Of course, because I think the new coach has a good track record.  I have no idea who else applied.  His teams were fun to watch at two different places.  Strictly as a fan.  I'd hate to ask the same thing of the Bulldogs.  Looks rude.  

Ok,Asking You a specific question looks rude? Is that what you mean? I’m not as qualified as you to discern. Just requesting info.  

6 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

This is 100% fact and is very much devalued in today's society, which is disheartening.

The, Me-Me-Me-Me aura