Coach Nowlin

He has looked sharp and helpful. 

Could he be having a year like Hurts if he is that QB on that team?   I would say that he would be VERY good, I think 🙂

It seems like the injury has helped him reset and see the game better, also seems like Getsy has started to understand and coach what he has UP FRONT to then get JF in positions to be more successful. 

Hard to argue or refute this tenure as being above board 

3 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

As a dear friend of Zach Martin (Rees teammate), Rees and I drunkenly shared a bed after a rager house party and I was subsequently urinated on. Figured this was an appropriate place to post this story.

Hard pass on Rees.

RACK IT 

If Big10, ACC, PAC12 and SEC all produce 13-0 conference champions seems to me we have ourselves a 4 team playoff 

https://bigten.org/news/2023/10/4/big-ten-conference-announces-future-football-schedule-formats-for-2024-28.aspx

You don't want an assistant from Power 5 conference in my opinion, they are well thought of because they are benefits of being an assistant at a successful program, like Michigan, if you hire Moore for sake of conversation, he doesn't get to bring his roster and UM players are NOT portal skating to IU.   Plus you only get 1 shot at the free transfer, so, pick wisely

I think IU needs to be different, there are plenty of ROP spread teams out there, how dod you set yourself apart?   

Any real good Option Coaches still out there in College?   

great guy

That high energy rah rah is great, until, you lose and lose and lose some more, 18-23 year olds choose these days to tune out such gimmicky schtick when things go south, the folks who jumped the gun on the extension probably need to be held accountable as well bc 20 million buyout was horrendous for anyone in B10 not named OSU/MICH/PENN ST imo 

just a few older guys ahead of him was my understanding, but with Sheffield bolting before Bucket game, it looks like he got some more run and had a nice day Saturday.  

Some real tough moments in this transition year, Harrell had some real bright spots, then some real WTF spots......

A lot of young exciting players that Walters was able to hold onto from Brohm class, obviously potential Freshman All American in Thienman was an absolute STUD in Walters system.  TE Burhnam (sp) also showed a lot in bucket game with Tibbs.   

GOT TO FIND OFFENSIVE LINEMAN 

Big Big Off Season 

at this point, lets keep the good times rolling......play competitive and lose at the end.  

I am hoping for 2 of top 5 picks in upcoming draft.  

Hope many the ROCKS fans can get into town early enough to enjoy the wonderful Downtown restaurant scene!! 

My personal favorites:  

Square Roots 

Lecrezia's 

Tavern on Main (21 and over) 

Many Great Pizza Places 

Fareinheidt 212 

2 minutes ago, RocksFan23 said:

Heading up to Crown Point from Westfield early afternoon. Live and work in Cincinnati now but have worked remote/used vacation time since first week of Sectional to follow the Rocks since relocating.

if you get up my way early enough, tremendous food opportunities throughout the city, but especially downtown area 

Live in CP since 2004, but been teaching and coaching in Rensselaer for 21 years

Last Weekend, I watched all games I could from comfort of chair, it was glorious

Tonight, I shall be doing what John Denver so eloquently described, "leaving on a Jet Plane". 

Go Boilers

I know schools used to be able to elect to stay in a class instead of dropping but never heard of it being per sport, all or none

5 hours ago, Lysander said:

Coach, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don’t know the history of Chatard in 4A….but it’s going to be Tolstoy in length…but hardly as literary…I’ll leave that to @Muda and his misspelled  acronyms.  For the record, anyone bothering to read this likely should grab a cup of coffee.

For the record, nobody is any less happy about Chatard being in 3A than Chatard football fans….at least this one, anyway.  Pretty sure I represent a majority, though.  With that, 4A is not always better than 3A..but it is in most years.  Regardless, either 3A or 4A is almost always better than 5A – I include in this the 70% of the time 5A is ACTUALLY WON BY A BUMPED UP 4A TEAM. 

If Chatard could somehow ultimately claw its way through 4A into 5A, I doubt it would ever leave 5A.

With that, let’s start with a recent history primer of Chatard in 3A and 4A (4A boldfaced and underlined😞

2013: (Year 1 of the Success Factor with 4 Points required to stay in 4A) Chatard wins Sectional v. Roncalli 28-8.  They lose Regional, in a game that was decided late, v. New Palestine.  This year was the start of New Pal’s great success under Coach Ralph.  Their Chatard win was the first statewide sign something special was cooking there. Chatard earns 1 point.

2014: Chatard rolls over and supines itself to Roncalli 31-6 in Sectional after beating them 20-7 in the regular season.  No further comment.  Chatard earns 0 points…back to 3A.

2015: Chatard wins 3A State

2016: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Vince Lorenzano’s last year)

2017: Chatard loses to Danville in 3A Sectional (Coach Rob Doyle’s first year)

2018: Chatard loses 3A Semi-State to Evansville Memorial…admittedly losing ugly.

2019: Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard  ranked #3 All Classes…New Pal was ranked #1 All Classes)

2020:   Chatard wins 3A State (CalPreps had Chatard ranked #6 All Classes).  For the record, they beat later 4A state champion Roncalli 28-7 that year (Roncalli’s sole loss). 

2021: Chatard loses to Roncalli in 4A Sectional 35-21.  Lest folks forget, this was the year Roncalli with their monster line (just coming off a State Championship) was talked about much like East Central today….until they lost in an upset to Mt Vernon (who easily won State).  Chatard earns 0 points.

2022: Chatard is put back in 3A (don’t ask me why…I still don’t understand it).  Chatard wins 3A State.

This is the history.  Chatard has only ever been in 4A for 3 years.  They’ve only been knocked out of 4A once in 2014 where they needed 4 points to stay up. 

That said, in 2024, have no doubt the slack jaws at the IHSAA will put Brebeuf, Chatard, Roncalli, Cincy Elder, Cincy St.X and Cincy Moeller in the same Sectional….or dream about it, anyway.  Regardless, Brebeuf, Chatard and Roncalli WILL be in the same Sectional….because….

In its absolute worst years, Chatard will almost always be a top 5-10 4A team (I believe they should be in the North...for the record).  Frankly, Chatard doesn’t seem to experience the same high/low swings Roncalli does. Still, historically Chatard will almost always also split 50/50 with Roncalli…who has a bit of a tradition, as well (but tends to have bigger “lows” than Chatard does in off years).  When Roncalli is “good”, they’re “State Champion good”.

Regardless, I have been told until my ears bleed that the IHSAA DEEPLY evaluates these Sectional groupings considering a multitude of factors including historic conferences…..yada, yada, yada….BS, BS, BS….smoke blowing up my hindquarters. Which has always been used to explain just how Roncalli’s next door, talking over the fence neighbor New Palestine is never paired with Roncalli in Sectional…but 45 minute North Indianapolis cross-county Chatard is ALWAYS paired with Roncalli.

That said, can’t the IHSAA figure out a way to simply put Chatard, New Pal and Roncalli in 3 different Sectionals?  Just that little effort would likely keep a prolonged and forever peace in 3A.

Tragically, the IHSAA has continued to give us year after year the “Sectional of Death” in 3A (copyright to @foxbat) or equivalent which, by any consideration, is gerrymandered as Hell but always has Chatard in the crosshairs (along with every Indiana HS Catholic north of the Mason Dixon line)….but ultimately screws over tons of great teams like TV, HH, WL, Guerin and too many teams to mention.  I’m still p!ssed off as to how badly Tippecanoe Valley was screwed over between Sectional pairings and the damn ping pong balls.

I have no doubt they will continue that proud tradition into 4A next year…wherever those Catholic Schools might be.

If the IHSAA truly gave a sh!t about the principle behind the Success Factor shouldn’t it ALSO be a consideration in that DEEP evaluation of Sectional pairings…or do you just let another equivalent of the 3A TW AD (some of you get the “code”) make the pairings in 4A as well?

Up to this point, the IHSAA Sectional pairings appear nothing more than self-interested groupings by those school administrators involved in the decision making process with no actual consideration of the overall picture….those non-decision makers  get the “Sectional of Death”.

I’m as angry as anybody about Chatard being in 3A (whether they win or lose this Friday…or possibly the following week).

The Success Factor can actually work if the IHSAA  actively considers the principle behind it as regards Sectional groupings. I say this as someone who was a very vocal sceptic…just ask Coach Gallogly.  If they don’t, and just allow it to become the playground for self-interested 4A  ADs…like those behind the "Sectional of Death" in 3A, then nothing will be resolved.

My guess is that, ultimately, those involved in the decision process at the IHSAA will most likely place self-interest over principle come Sectional announcement time.

Please, prove me wrong.

 

You can now return to the original thread....

 

MY MAN!!  

5 hours ago, FastpacedO said:

77 Varsity players for Chatard. @Lysander use to be a 3-way play (cooked, cleaned, and drove) now he retired.

https://bishopchatardathletics.org/wp-content/uploads/Football-Roster.pdf

Who are the 2 poor players who get left off the field if they punch their ticket?  Unless IHSAA increased roster size over 75? 

doubtful 

2 hours ago, RegionFBFan said:

The only reason the IHSAA does it this way is for the money. It has to be because they have predetermined locations in many of the other sports. So why not football?

A suggestion: Change it to Neutral sites for one 2 year cycle similar to classification changes, track the revenue, cost and attendance vs current set up. Then determine path forward.

Love this

also,  GO BULLDOGS 

I'd be remised not to mention again, how TV got absolutely short sticked by the 3a Tournament committee, those individuals threw them into a sectional for no good reason,  E/W or N/S. made no sense sending TV to that sectional.   

Knox vs TV would of been fun, but my $ would of been on TV then they could of played Chatard of SS however, I digress 

carry on 

so just unlucky for those teams that his year's version of Chatard got to head back to 3a 

They would be very difficult to handle coming out of 4a North, wish we could get that East Central vs Chatard this year,  that would be quite the slobberknocker 

23 hours ago, BendNotBreak said:

Was a Magnificent Bomber team u helped produce... Dont those families stick around those parts anymore???

we have 37 of our 42 players coming back and some 8th graders coming in.   We had to play 3a football this past year with an enrollment of around 445.   2 years ago, Count Day, we had 528, by Xmas we had under 500, migrant workers and their families showed up and left, which left our school playing up.   

So it goes, but we are a 2a school thru and thru 

Why can't Chatard earn enough points to stay in 4a?   That is a real question 

23 hours ago, temptation said:

Yes, consensus is he made himself some money this past weekend.

Sad part is he must wait yet another year, hope he takes a good insurance policy out 

I believe I am going on close to 5 years since I turned on any sort of ESPN/FOX/NFL network talk show, pundit show, insert loud mouths in front TV type show. 

Its all garbage and meant to illicit responses and clicks, 

ESPN is on my TV for live sports that is it.  

this much I think should be all agreed upon

1.  EVERYONE attempts to pick up on sideline signs, I mean EVERYONE ( this includes HIGH SCHOOL TOO) 

2.  The issue here is the CIA esque way this Michigan Staffer went about it, THAT is the issue at hand. 

3.  Jim Harbaugh clearly knew it was happening, to what extent is he culpable, that is what SUITS will figure out

4.  Harbaugh being barred on Game Day does nothing but galvanize his team and 100% gives them the ole classic US AGAINST THE WORLD.  For a team that really didn't need any "extra" motivation, GOOD LUCK OHIO STATE, it's going to get real ugly now. 

Future top 10 pick IMO 

thought so when I first saw some highlights up in my neck of the woods   MERCY