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    LaVille at LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    21 hours ago, hondo17 said:

    I wonder if Rochester is kicking themselves in the pants. 

    Even the slightest passing game or a kicker for that matter...they are more than likely playing Luers. 

    Happy for Coach Nay, however, be lying if I wasn't hoping to see Rochester win and send LCC back to 1a. 🙂

     

     

    “Recruiting is real in high school."

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    27 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

    Sorry, I've tried and I just don't understand what you are trying to say here.    If you deem to rewrite your statement I will definitely consider it and compose a response.  Maybe get a English teacher from the RHS English department to assist you?

    You forgot the "C".  RCHS, but I digress

    Just because I truly do like you, here you go. 

    Muda69, as a champion of School Choice, you must understand that School Choice is not just about Academics.  School Choice is about the entire school community.  Examples of this include, but not limited to:  Academic success/reputation, School Culture, Safety, and yes, EXTRA CURRICULAR Activites, such as Sports, FFA, Robotics, et. al.   As someone who has advocated for School Choice, you cannot be naive to the fact that some families will utilize school choice for their child's athletic endeavors, good or bad, but that is part of the process as well, or as some may think, an unintended consequence of school choice.   

    Cheers

    LaVille at LCC

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    Metzger will throw for 300 + 

    Exactly what @RegionFBFan stated, the game will be on a very good FAST bermuda grass field with no moisture in sight.   You cannot blitz and sell out to get to Metzger because they will get the ball out incredibly fast, then what, you have an secondary who won't be able to run and catch up with those WRs.   Who will LaVille counter with to shut down a 6'7 WR?    

    LaVille has had an outstanding year, their is another level of football in Lafayette area then our friends farther north.  

    As seen by West Lafayette beating Hanover Central last week.   LaVille NEEDED a monsoon imo, they didn't get it this week like they did week 10 

     

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    Crown Point at Penn

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    What is PENN DL / FRONT 7,8 look like SIZE wise??  

    CP is HUGE up front as stated above, they do a GREAT job working as a UNIT firing off the ball and having H backs come pulling into the Hole on the their POWER scheme.   

    One thing I do know, PENN won't waste their DL by going to a 5 man front to "cut" out the OL of CP like Lake Central did last week, CP just ran over the top of it, and left NO DEFENDERS for LC to attack the LOS with.  Then when you fall asleep as stated also above, the QB can launch it behind all the sleepy defenders to streaking Wideouts.   

    CP 28 Penn 14 is my 46307 living area code prediction. (spoiler alert, I live n CP 🙂 ) 

     

    “Recruiting is real in high school."

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Muda69 said:

    https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2023/11/09/ihsaa-football-jace-stuckey-hopes-to-lead-triton-central-eastern-michigan-commit-indiana-high-school/71474364007/

    Interesting statement by young Mr. Stuckey.  Wish the article delved more into it.

     

    As an advocate for School Choice, you also must take the understand, school choice, can lead to this sort of thing to occur, when talking school choice, you cannot cherry pick, well only for academics, that is not the reality of the situation, I think you understand that.  

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    Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

    in The Next Level

    Posted

    6 hours ago, temptation said:

    A level headed take...

    "Either everyone is guilty or no one is."

    Communication in the helmets in 2024, move on.

     

    How about this response to the WETZEL article 

     

    https://x.com/TheBigTenHuddle/status/1722274136716931110?s=20

     

     

    After reviewing the recent opinion piece by @DanWetzel titled, "Either everyone's guilty, or no one is," I believe Dan got a few things wrong that I would like to address:

    1. "In the end, they both stole, or participated in the stealing of, the same thing — information on opponents' play signals in an effort to secure an advantage." - Dan Wetzel To determine that Michigan stole the same thing that Purdue did is completely asinine. Michigan obtained video that they could review and sync up with a TV copy of the game and All 22 film. This would be reviewed repeatedly for hours, being rewound and played back at various speeds. Purdue was given information from coaches about what they saw and believed to be correct. This information must be trusted by the giver of information and cannot be reviewed and checked.

    2. "It's just that one was a ski mask bank robbery. The other was an inside job, cleanly wiring the money to the Caribbean." - Dan Wetzel Also untrue is the notion that the stolen information was sent through already with no error after one contest. Connor Stalions had plans to gain information to review 8 Ohio State games this year. For these two things to be even remotely equivalent, Purdue would have needed nearly every Big Ten team that faced Michigan to agree to give them information about their signs.

    3. "Whatever it is, just make it even, because the actions of Connor Stalions and the actions that Ohio State, Rutgers, and Purdue allegedly engaged in are the exact same thing." - Dan Wetzel Ohio State, Rutgers, and Purdue did not steal signs from their opponent illegally, and sharing notes from one game each amongst one another is not against any rule. Connor Stalions paid and incentivized others to gain video of multiple coaches every week. The amount of what they did, what they obtained, and what methods they used have no similarities.

    4. "So in the Big Ten Championship Game, both teams had the other’s signals, both of which were gathered via advanced scouting." - Dan Wetzel The term, "advanced scouting" does not appear once in the NCAA bylaws. Off-campus in-person scouting is prohibited, and the intent of the person relaying information should be recognized. Ohio State and Rutgers coaches allegedly had the intent of stealing signs for that game. Once that information has been obtained, there are no rules against sharing information amongst staffs. If one staff was paid by another to share information, that is another story, but as of right now, we do not have any indication that these signs were not shared for financial gain.
    5. "Which would you rather have? Raw cell phone footage that still needs to be broken down, or highly experienced coaches just handing over their work?' - Dan Wetzel Although this has nothing to do with the rules and is just an unrelated opinion question, Dan's downplay of the value of video recordings is misguided at best. If stealing signs were easy in every football match, there would be no need for what Connor Stalions did. However, the environment of a loud stadium, emotions, and other various duties are improperly compared to sitting in a quiet office reviewing film, which, as I stated earlier, can be rewound, slowed, and played repeatedly. If a recording is the same or worse than what coaches get on the field, why do coaches watch All 22 film? It's simple. It is not the same or better than the value of a recording. And even if the recording is low quality, it still can be rendered and improved.

    6. "Even if Ohio State and Rutgers acquired Michigan signs via NCAA-legal game film or during game action, it doesn’t matter. Purdue didn’t do that work. The Boilermakers received stolen signs from advanced scouting. They cheated as much as Michigan." - Dan Wetzel Dan is just repeating himself here and using the same wording and reasoning that was easily disproved earlier.

    7. "Additionally, the Purdue person receiving the advanced scouting work was almost assuredly, at the very least, an assistant coach. The NCAA investigation, sources say, hasn’t found any proof anyone in Ann Arbor knew how Stalions got so good at deciphering signs. He apparently hid his act." - Dan Wetzel Wow, a lot of speculation and assumed information here that is a poor excuse for journalism.

    8. "So why is the NCAA aggressively investigating Michigan but not Purdue and the others? Why is the Big Ten threatening to suspend Harbaugh indefinitely but doesn’t seem to care about anyone else?" - Dan Wetzel Because Jim Harbaugh's staff clearly broke the rules, and there are no rulings stating what the three schools did to be against them.

    9. "All we know is some still-unidentified entity hired a still-unidentified private investigator to uncover Stalions' antics in the hopes that the NCAA and the Big Ten would do exactly what they did — fall for the okey doke and naively overreact." - Dan Wetzel We don't know this, and Dan makes an immature accusation with little to no basis. The fact these words are even in this opinion piece should relinquish all of its credibility.

    10. "Charlie Baker has been NCAA president since March. Tony Petitti has been Big Ten Commissioner since May. Neither has much experience with this stuff — Baker was a politician, Petitti mostly a television executive." - Dan Wetzel Both were hired and met the qualifications for their jobs. To question their previous employment is ridiculous.

    11. "Mostly they listened to football coaches who view one kind of advanced scouting as gamesmanship, and another as a kind of crime. The coaches’ reasoning? Sending around stolen signs and game plans is common practice, so they don’t care. What Connor Stalions did is apparently not so common, so they did care." - Dan Wetzel Charlie Baker was never reported to have been in these meetings with the Big Ten coaches. There is no evidence of the allegations that Tony Petitti had no original thought and folded to the pressure. If anything, reports were made that he disagreed and attempted to calm down the coaches. Yes, this is unprecedented cheating. Obviously, there will be strong reactions.

    12. "Football coaches are rarely deep thinkers. They aren’t spending time contemplating law, precedent, ethics or unintended consequences. They just want Jim Harbaugh gone." - Dan Wetzel There are no studies that support this claim, and this is also not their job. 13. "But the same crime is still the same crime, and if anyone took a moment to do their actual job, they’d realize it." - Dan

    Wetzel Purdue did not break the same rules. Purdue did not break any rules.

    Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

    in The Next Level

    Posted

    17 hours ago, temptation said:

    1.  It all depends on what the head coach knew and when.  Both are not above punishment but..

    a.  If the head coach knew and the university was FUNDING these trips then this should be an egregious level 1/2 violation.  No amount of bias can be inserted here on my part.

    b.  If the staffer went “rogue” and was doing this on his own, then he should be fired immediately and a level 3 violation should be the penalty, maybe more for Harbaugh and/or the coaching staff.

    I know many will laugh at the notion of option B but come on.  If this dude truly was roaming the sidelines in East Lansing (still unconfirmed) there is no way that Harbaugh or any of the higher-ups at Michigan would condone him doing so and sign off on it.  Hell, McElwain (CMU’s head coach) was on the UM staff midway through Harbaugh’s tenure and knows Stalions.

    Option B is going to be Michigan’s play and it will outrage many.

    2.  The HC is the CEO and should know what each member of his staff is doing at all times PROFESSIONALLY.  If you look up Stalions’ history, he is a lifetime Michigan “Superfan” and cut his teeth volunteering to get a job on the staff for years.  He wrote a 600+ page manifesto about taking the reins of Michigan football himself.  Guy has a few loose screws and is fairly delusional.

    Harbaugh/the university will pay the price for this, it’s just a matter of how steep.  I don’t see anything happening this year.  
     

    Now, it’s open season on Michigan football as the narrative has been painted and the pitchforks are out.  Many will gloss right over my statements above because they want blood.  The way this story has been painted nationally makes villains out of Michigan and while I am not insinuating that they deserve pity or sympathy, they do deserve due process.

    I mean, in your own article linked above 1/3 of the coaches interviewed admitted they employed a “sign stealer” on their staff…and that’s assuming the other 2/3 were being honest.  This type of behavior is likely more widespread that folks want to admit it you or I even imagine.   

    It’s an outdated rule.

     

    Appreciate the well thought out response and I do not argue with any of it seems to be spot on

     

    one thing is true today world of Sports "scandals".  is that many folks indeed go Zero to 10000 as fast as possible, for instance a month or so ago, everyone was convinced the FBI raided Hallas Hall in Chicago because some slapdick with 5k twitter followers said he knew Peanut Tillman and it was true .........

    Either way you look at it, Michigan is not coming out looking good in this case, whether they were culpable (you like my big word @Bobref ) or not 

     

     

    Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

    in The Next Level

    Posted

    @temptation  

    Questions for you, as Michigan Fan

    1.  What should be done for a penalty in this case, I think we can move past "if its true" 

    2.  Should Head Coach be responsible for just himself, or his entire staff? 

    Again, I do not believe this to be a "fireable offense" however, again, something that SHOULD tarnish the Michigan Man Legacy 

    Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

    in The Next Level

    Posted

    3 hours ago, temptation said:

    Meanwhile, Michigan is prohibited by the NCAA by-laws to say ANYTHING about an ongoing investigation so the story is clickbait/one-sided.  This is "journalism" in 2023.  Presumed guilt and consistent hit jobs/death by 1000 cuts without all of the facts.

    Michigan is inching towards a new contract with Harbaugh (would have been done last week if it were not for "sign gate") so it doesn't seem they are too worried about any potential ramifications at this point.

    You see, I am not making this about whether or not he will sign a new contract or not, I could care less, I also do not feel like its enough to fire "for cause". just another blemish to the great "Michigan Men" and their we can do no wrong that gets banter about around here and other interwebs.    

     

    Harbaugh’s Hands Caught in Cookie Jar

    in The Next Level

    Posted

    You don't get those in-depth articles and get coaches or athletes to speak freely in these scenarios, you know this, so you have to have security of speaking in the shadows

     

    I thought it was a good article because it got coaches to speak specifically on the situation without bias, just how they thought.   

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