Gipper

Hmmm.  I know he's at KV now, but I can only wonder if LC will reach out to Kirk Kennedy....

12 hours ago, psaboy said:

Why are the Terre Haute schools being shunned? 

apparently, you have never been there.

3 hours ago, temptation said:

I'm not sure LSU belongs in that group but I get your point.

agreed, but still smarting after their 63-7 drubbing of Purdue in the Citrus Bowl in 2023...

I like the move.  Travel costs and times won't be near as bad and hopefully there will be (to borrow from the illustrious DT) competitive balance.    

14 hours ago, Boilernation said:

100%. North Carolina, Virginia and Texas have always been the white whales. Only 2 chances now. 

I think after seeing Bama, UGA, and LSU rule the roost in the SEC for a few years, the Horns may want out.

1 hour ago, temptation said:

I am interested to see the approach on conference championship games now for two reasons.

1.  It is impossible to fairly play a balanced schedule in the Big Ten specifically when you will only see half the conference in the regular season.

2. A team could actually be "punished" for playing in its conference championship game if it is sitting 9th or 10th in the second to last CFP rankings and loses, thus falling out of the top 11.

Big Ten needs to get to 20 and just do 4 divisions of 5.  You play each of your divisional opponents once, plus two from each other division.  Cut one non-con game and move the season up a week.

Four division winners play semis then, the two winners of those play for the conference championship.

Probably makes too much sense and would never happen.

East:  Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, Ohio State, Pittsburgh

West:  USC, Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Nebraska

Central:  Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois

Midwest:  Indiana, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

I'd love to see Pitt in the league. but still contend ND is a pipe dream at best.  Syracuse is a much more viable option, but if the B1G is to raid the ACC, I'd rather see them add North Carolina and Virginia

Although I started this post on half-serious terms, it is pretty important because College Football is such a money-maker.  I just don't want to see Purdue and IU get caught on the outside looking in.

38 minutes ago, 1st_and_10 said:

I don't think it will be the Tecumseh league.  LOL.  

No way in hell it will, jut drawing on my summer memories at Camp Tecumseh...

3 hours ago, 1st_and_10 said:

The new conference name will come at some point.  It's just a name.  Not overly worried about what it's called

I've always liked Sagamore, but the Tecumseh League could be a swell improvement.

Imagine the protests...

22 hours ago, foxbat said:

I've heard this before, but I'm trying to wrap my head around where this has happened that didn't have something wonky attached to it, perhaps outside of Cathedral.  And even in the case of Cathedral, I don't think they've ever returned to their enrollment class, 4A

Chatard's "move down" from 4A was based on a single season when the IHSAA implementing a COVID review and sticking them in a sectional with Roncalli.  LCC moved down because the points to stay up was four points at the time.  I'm trying to think through who else has yo-yo'd, perhaps outside of Pioneer ... but that's a public school and they've been 2-8 and 5-5 since moving back down and haven't made it past a first-round game.  Even folks like Linton and Scecina that went up on SF were large enough after the fact, moving from 1A to 2A, to remain in 2A regardless of SF.  Adams Central will end up being the third such school. 

Matter of fact, in 1A so far, there have been seven total instances of teams being SF'd up to 2A, with LCC being the only one to yo-yo ... again because of the four-point rule:

• LCC - The first and has been SF'd twice and a member of the inaugural class.  Moved down once because the cutoff was four points as mentioned above.  Moved back up as one of the first team's to be SF'd by doing worse in their second year of the cycle than the first in 2021.  Picked up three points in the current 2A stay.  Will be remaining in 2A for the next cycle.
• Scecina - Moved up as a result of picking up 6 points in the inaugural SF class in 2013. Up until this last season, the only team to be SF'd without a blue ring.  Adams Central just joined that distinguished club.  Scecina has never moved back down as a result now of enrollment.
• Linton was SF'd in the 3rd SF class since no one in 1A picked up enough points in the second SF cycle to be bumped in 2017 season.  Like Scecina, has never moved back down as a result now of enrollment.
• Pioneer finally SF'd in 2019 after three straight appearances at LOS netting two blue rings and a red.  Remained in 2A for 1 1/2 seasons before COVID half-season sent them back down to 1A.  As noted above, haven't escaped a first round 1A game with a win since.
• Adams Central just joined the Scecina/Pioneer having three straight LOS appearances combined with no blue rings.  Will likely not end up coming down as they are likely to join the other distinct club: the Linton/Scecina club where they get SF'd and get too big to come down regardless of SF.
• Lutheran just joined the Pioneer club along with the WeBo club in that they had three straight LOS appearances and also picked up three straight blue rings.  Will see need to wait to see if they don't weather 2A, but last year they likely could have easily gotten to 2A semi-state.

As such, since the end of the 2012 season, six programs in 1A have been SF'd with the very unique situations of two-thirds of the programs being bumped in just a pair of SF cycles.  Of interest is the mix is three p/p and three public.  Only two 1A teams out of six have returned, LCC and Pioneer, and, in the case of LCC, it was because the requirement was four points to stay.  Technically, LCC is the only one to really yo-yo and, again, due to the four-point rule.  With the data points, I'm not seeing 1A at much risk; especially if the argument is that the p/ps have enormous benefits, as SF will address it and, the potential discrepancies at the lower levels are much more likely to NOT have p/p programs returning back down from a 2A environment.

 

Instead of success factor, I'd like to see other wrinkles: such as playing only 8-9 players at a time or wearing Crocs as opposed to cleats...

So many theories have been postulated, here's my take:

Premier League:  Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Florida State, LSU, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Penn State, USC, Washington

Not Quite There Yet Conference: Arizona, Arizona State, Duke, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Purdue, Tennessee, UCLA, Utah, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wisconsin

Outlier League: Auburn, Baylor, Boise State, BYU, California, Cincinnati. Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa State, Maryland, Louisville, Miami (FL), Michigan State, Mississippi State, Nebraska, Oklahoma State, Pitt, San Diego State, South Carolina, Wake Forest

What About Me Conference: Air Force, Arkansas, Army, Boston College, Colorado State, Fresno State Hawaii, Houston, Kansas State, Navy Oregon State, SMU, Stanford, South Florida, Texas Tech. Syracuse, Tulane, Utah State, Washington State, Wyoming

Wretched Refuse League: Ball State, Central Florida, Florida Atlantic, Memphis, Miami (OH), New Mexico, New Mexico State, Northern Illinois, Rutgers, Temple, Tulsa, UNLV, Vanderbilt

Again, not perfect, just having a little fun...

A bit of a surprise, but I thought they'd go after a league with bigger schools.  But their location is almost as bad as Terre Haute: two big schools with limited local options.  I guess the only other option would be the Northwest Crossroads, and that's a bit of a stretch.

On 2/12/2024 at 7:10 PM, Coach Nowlin said:

The whopping 30 some seconds was that crushing for you?  

Literally every Super Bowl has cut aways to celebrities, etc.    There is like only 18 actual minutes of actual football plays on any given NFL game.    

Just sayings

 

Chiefs defensive improvements throughout the year was really something,  Hats off to now 4 time Super Bowl winning coordinator Steve Spagnola,  master class playoff run 

 

 

54. let's be a little more specific....

17 hours ago, Boilernation said:

Gipper is a Cheesehead. His pessimism is warranted. I have faith in Warren and Poles to pull the Bears out of the abyss of continual failure.  Otherwise, lets hope the McCaskey children cash in an sell the team once Virginia passes.

Really?  

42 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

Quite a wild scenarios that could play out in Chicago

This much I do know, if anything is leaked out of Chicago Hallas hall its because Poles wants it out there, other than that, Bears Brass is pretty darn good at the cloak and dagger under POLES, unlike PACE who was buffooned into bidding against himself in the infamous Tribusky draft.  

 

August 2024, I believe Fields to be a Pittsburgh Steeler 

August 2024, I believe Bears to have Caleb Williams 

but as I have stated, I believe in Ryan Poles over everything, so if he decides to move off the #1 and trade down and keep and Fields or even extend him then im in and lets go and coach him up 

The Bears will continue to be the Bears....

Fun game to watch, other than all of the cuts to Taylor Swift.  I know she's America's Sweetheart, etc., but still...

33 minutes ago, Basementbias said:

Hard telling with Illinois & Chicago if any of this is being done above board. Just stating what I've been informed by city residents. Chicago has a history of corruption, so it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it's being done illegally somehow.

What?!?  Chicago isn't run perfectly?  

5 minutes ago, BTF said:

Does it have to be computer generated? I think you put into the hands of humans. A committee from different areas of the state. If a computer is the determining factor, you'll no longer see good teams taking a knee and the end of the first half. 

The age-old question: computers.  Doesn't get much more blind than that...

I think Penn will continue to be Penn as they have the luxury of playing in a B or C level conference.    The schools in the South Bend aren't much to speak of, Elkhart is waffling, while Concord and Mishawaka are on the fence at best.   The northern half of 6A teams isn't exactly stacked either. with only Crown Point, a Ft. Wayne school, Lafayette Jeff (and/or Harrison), and Warsaw to contend with.

6 hours ago, Robert said:

WorldAtlas

Largest School Districts In The United States

Rank	School district name	Location	Enrollment
1	New York City Department of Education	New York	995,336
2	Los Angeles Unified School District	California	667,273
3	Puerto Rico Department of Education	Puerto Rico	437,202
4	Chicago Public Schools	Illinois	405,655
5	Miami-Dade County Public Schools	Florida	347,366
6	Clark County School District	Nevada	314,059
7	Broward County Public Schools	Florida	256,472
8	Houston Independent School District	Texas	204,245
9	Hillsborough County Public Schools	Florida	194,525
10	Hawaii Department of Education	Hawaii	179,601
11	Orange County Public Schools	Florida	176,008
12	School District of Palm Beach County	Florida	174,663
13	Fairfax County Public Schools	Virginia	174,479
14	School District of Philadelphia	Pennsylvania	166,233
15	Gwinnett County Public Schools	Georgia	160,744

With CPS at #4, that doesn't include suburban schools such as New Trier and Naperville North.  The Catholic juggernaut of traditional power Mt. Carmel isn't on this list.

As we all know, I'm a Packer fan, we've got our guy.  But as for the Bears, I don't think QB1 is the problem.  It's ownership.  The McCaskeys ae too old for this and their business model is past stale.  Bringing in Caleb Williams is not the quick fix as they don't really have many legitimate deep all threats outside of Kmet and Moore.  

18 hours ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Nice. Another one I was surprised didn't have it. 

You a Lowell guy? 

Partly.  I graduated from South Newton, but now live in Lowell--my daughter goes to LHS.  Great school, decent class size, great athletic tradition, awesome academics.  Townsfolk are great, too.

Although it pains me to say, but Lowell is adding turf.

On another note, I'm back...

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

Of course. But at that point it's semantics revolving teams who have lost enough games that they have no real gripe. Florida State as un undefeated has a legit gripe.

 

point.

12 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

I love that the Committe admitted the health of Travis played a part in their rankings. Especially since they ranked FSU ahead of Georgia. So, FSU without Jordan Travis is better than Georgia? Ok.

Glad we're going to an expanded playoff next year. It'll have it's faults but it beats this quagmire.

People will whine, trust me.