Bobref

This is intellectually unworthy of you.

Ask the CDC. Seriously, as best I can determine with cursory research, it refers to the CDC’s process for certifying various types of equipment, from respirators down to masks and gloves, as complying with standards.

Meaning there is a huge pool of potential victims out there for you and your unmasked buddies to infect.

This thinking is dangerous. I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.”

This is where the disconnect is. So, you’re saying it’s OK to “build up your immunity” by increasing the risk to other people? Can’t you see that the only word to describe that attitude is “selfish?” And just what makes you think that not wearing a mask is “building up your immunity?” I assume you’re referring to the development of antibodies as the body’s response to infection with SARS-CoV-2? Check out this excerpt from an article published by the World Health Organization: WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response. Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection. (Emphasis supplied) Here’s the whole article. https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19. The article concludes with “People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission.“ This seems to fit your attitude to a “T.” It’s wrong. It’s inconsiderate. It’s dangerous, both to others and to you. That article from WHO is dated 4/24/20. I have searched in vain for anything written since then which contains contrary information. You are a responsible guy. Act responsibly. Put on a mask.

First of all, we did. Public masking was common in Europe and Asia during their various outbreaks, and even in this country earlier in the 20th Century during severe flu outbreaks. But more importantly, as has been pointed out several times, in several ways, attempting to draw parallels between this virus and any of the influenza strains is both misleading and dangerous. As far as the difference between a law and a recommendation, that’s why I didn’t refer to those refusing to wear masks as criminals ... although they may be considered such in some places. I referred to them as “inconsiderate jerks,” which is what someone who literally endangers the lives of others in order to avoid a temporary and minor inconvenience is.

I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.”

I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.”

The plot thickens! Now what we need is a good, old-fashioned snitch. How about if the admins award points as a bounty to whoever comes forward with information that leads to the unmasking of this dual-ID fiend?

Oh boy ! A mystery. Something to occupy our time while quarantined. Who has any clues about the identity of the mysterious multiple user ID, and his/her/its serial downvoting campaign?

I think their talent level at the skill positions was set to take a step back. That’s why they will have more grad transfers this season than ever before.

Looks like we’re going to have some form of college football this season, so let’s start the discussion on the Irish here. Just to show you how excited I am (not) for the 2020 team, my starting observation is about the future, not the present. But, the possibility exists that we’ve finally found The Chosen One. https://247sports.com/Article/Notre-Dame-football-2020-national-championship-147165237/ Barton Simmons outlines Notre Dame's path to national title ByAUSTIN NIVISON 15 hours ago 3 Since 2017, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish have been knocking on the door of a national title. So, what can help them take that final step and help them hoist the College Football Playoff National Championship. On the latest episode of the Cover 3 Podcast, 247Sports’ Barton Simmons discussed the path that the Irish should take as they try to build a national championship team. There has been some recent frustration from Notre Dame fans about how Brian Kelly and his staff have done on the recruiting trail. The 2020 signing class finished No. 17 in the country, according to the 247Sports Composite Team Rankings, but Simmons isn’t sure that prohibits the Irish from winning it all. As Simmons points out, Clemson wasn’t recruiting at a top-five level before it began its run of dominance. Notre Dame might be able to follow that same blueprint to take the final step toward being a truly elite program that is in the same category as Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. The key is Notre Dame being able to recruit and develop a game-changing quarterback. “Ultimately, as a recruiting program, the best model that they could track — that they could look at and say that could be us — is Clemson,” Simmons said. “Pretty good model. Even the Clemson model recruited in a range that Notre Dame recruits at now. When they started jumping into the top five was after the run of quarterbacks. It was after basically Deshaun Watson. Notre Dame fans, I think rightly, are very dialed into recruiting. Why can’t we get the talent Alabama and Ohio State are getting? Until we do that, we are never going to win national championships. That’s true, to a degree. “The bigger thing, for me, is when you get that quarterback that is transcendent, that can elevate the roster you’ve already established into a national championship program. That can elevate the recruiting to follow into top five recruiting, which Brian Kelly has vocalized and said he’s looking for.”Although Simmons doesn’t think that quarterback is already on the Irish’s roster, he may be on his way to South Bend next year. Five-star signal caller Tyler Buchner could be the player Notre Dame has been searching for. “Ian Book is not that guy,” Simmons said. “That’s no shot at Ian Book. He’s a good quarterback, but he’s not the transcendent guy. They’ve got a 2021 quarterback committed named Tyler Buchner. That kid, I think, is the best shot at a transcendent type of quarterback that they’ve had committed … I think this kid has the best shot to be that type of transcendent quarterback. So, that’s the thing to keep an eye on with Notre Dame if you want to take that next step, which obviously they’re ready for.” Notre Dame’s 2021 recruiting class currently ranks No. 9 in the country, per the 247Sports Team Rankings

In other words, the Electoral College is functioning exactly as intended.

We can also agree, can’t we, that if the shoe were on the other foot, the Republicans would be screaming just as loudly? These days I find myself inching ever closer to your “uni-party” stance. Disturbing.

I doubt the Senate will have the last word on this.

We have a winner!

I would clearly have been drafted but for the College student deferment rule. Incidentally, at that particular time, the student deferment was up for renewal in Congress, and it was by no means certain the deferment program would have continued. This uncertainty had 2 effects. First, it made my Mom go right off the deep end. Second, it found me enrolling in Air Force ROTC my freshman year. The following September, the student deferment ended ... for those born in 1952 or later. I had a brother born in 1952. Guess what his draft number was. Hint: 1952 was a leap year.

I vividly remember the day my conservative Midwestern mother turned dramatically against the war in Vietnam. It was July 1, 1970. That was the day of the Selective Service Lottery for those born in 1951. My number was 39. Up until then, I was having a great summer. Getting ready to head off to Notre Dame. Hitting > .400 in Legion ball. Had a nice job and a great girlfriend. Talk about dropping a turd in the punch bowl!

😂🤣😅😆

If it’s NE Indiana, I’m not nearly as familiar with that area, but have been to several good places out that way. Adams Central is another one of those great small town football venues. Never treated better anywhere than we were treated at AC. Garrett is also a very cool place. Been to Spuller and Zollner, but not recently. Meh...

My criteria are somewhat different than most. They include locker rooms, playing surface, atmosphere, and the other things that are important to someone who doesn’t spend time sitting in the stands. Limited to NW Indiana, and in no particular order, my favorites are: Lowell - It’s a bit a of a hike from the locker room to the field, but the Inferno is awesome. Always an enthusiastic crowd, and the hospitality is first rate. It’s not like the old days when KK was there, but it’s still pretty good. Valparaiso - A top notch program with a fine facility. Very classy. Great crowd support and great hospitality. Hobart - The most knowledgeable fans in the Region. Best playing surface in the Region. Their great tradition makes every game there an event. And their facility is such a vast improvement over the miserable Brickie Bowl ... Crown Point - Nicest overall facility. Great hospitality. Every game is Pop Warner night, or midget cheerleader night, or something like that. Always a festive atmosphere. Tied with Hobart for the best PA system, and whoever picks out their music has great taste: AC/DC, Guns ‘N Roses, Led Zeppelin, Queen. Rensselaer - Had to give props to @Coach Nowlin’s crew. Nobody treats you better than the Bombers. Great small-town high school football feel, like the whole town turns out. Pound for pound, the most supportive study body around.

“[A] LARGE majority” of the 20% had antibodies? Or “a LARGE majority” of the general population had antibodies? If the former, that doesn’t seem too significant. If the latter, I’d love to hear what supports that conclusion.

He did, indeed.