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My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Athletes and their parents already sign a very comprehensive participation waiver. -
Marching toward a debt crisis
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Of course. But I won’t need much. After all, that’s what the weapons are for.😜 -
My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I was thinking what a monumental undertaking it is to try and get this right, when it’s absolutely without precedent. Those people at the IHSAA are really earning their pay these days. They not only have to decide when to “restart,” but also how to deal with situations that arise after the restart. What do you do if a player has symptoms? What do you do if a player has been exposed? What do you do if a player tests positive? Same questions for a coach, trainer, manager, etc.? Same questions for a family member living in the same household as a player, coach, trainer, etc.? Who do you test, and when? Do you require testing at all? Using what criteria? What do you do with a player, coach, etc., who tests positive for antibodies, i.e., has already been infected and has recovered? What sort of protocols have to be in place in the locker room, weight room, practice facility, etc.? We haven’t even addressed the issues of fans and games. These occurred to me right off the top of my head. I’m sure that the people working on this will have to answer these questions and many, many more. I don’t envy them. -
Marching toward a debt crisis
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
I’m storing mine at an undisclosed location I call “Fortress Bobref.” It’s there along with supplies, weapons, and DVDs of every game I ever officiated. I’ll be ready for whatever. -
New Donald Trump thread
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
This is intellectually unworthy of you. -
New Donald Trump thread
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Meaning there is a huge pool of potential victims out there for you and your unmasked buddies to infect. -
This thinking is dangerous. I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.”
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My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
This is where the disconnect is. So, you’re saying it’s OK to “build up your immunity” by increasing the risk to other people? Can’t you see that the only word to describe that attitude is “selfish?” And just what makes you think that not wearing a mask is “building up your immunity?” I assume you’re referring to the development of antibodies as the body’s response to infection with SARS-CoV-2? Check out this excerpt from an article published by the World Health Organization: WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response. Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection. (Emphasis supplied) Here’s the whole article. https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19. The article concludes with “People who assume that they are immune to a second infection because they have received a positive test result may ignore public health advice. The use of such certificates may therefore increase the risks of continued transmission.“ This seems to fit your attitude to a “T.” It’s wrong. It’s inconsiderate. It’s dangerous, both to others and to you. That article from WHO is dated 4/24/20. I have searched in vain for anything written since then which contains contrary information. You are a responsible guy. Act responsibly. Put on a mask. -
My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
First of all, we did. Public masking was common in Europe and Asia during their various outbreaks, and even in this country earlier in the 20th Century during severe flu outbreaks. But more importantly, as has been pointed out several times, in several ways, attempting to draw parallels between this virus and any of the influenza strains is both misleading and dangerous. As far as the difference between a law and a recommendation, that’s why I didn’t refer to those refusing to wear masks as criminals ... although they may be considered such in some places. I referred to them as “inconsiderate jerks,” which is what someone who literally endangers the lives of others in order to avoid a temporary and minor inconvenience is. -
My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.” -
My Suggestion to IHSAA
Bobref replied to Coach Nowlin's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I’m on record as saying anyone who doesn’t go along with public masking is an inconsiderate jerk. Here’s a post I made on another thread. Seeing lots of resistance to wearing masks. “A cloth mask is not going to stop a virus particle.” I think public health authorities could do a better job of explaining the justification for universal public masking. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/face-masks-importance-battle-with-covid19 Why Face Masks Are Crucial Now in the Battle Against COVID-19 As confirmed cases of COVID-19 continue to rise, the CDC is recommending that everyone wear a cloth mask when they go out in public. Experts say the homemade masks won’t protect someone from getting sick, but they can help prevent the spread of the disease by those with the virus. Experts also recommend that everyone continue social distancing and other preventive measures in addition to wearing face coverings. All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 outbreak. Public use of face masks has been common in China and other nations in Asia since the beginning of the new coronavirus disease outbreak. Now, as the United States faces an increasing number of COVID-19confirmed cases and deaths, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has started advisingTrusted Source Americans to wear masks, too. “We now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms (“asymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (“pre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms,” according to the advisory published by the CDC. “This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity — for example, speaking, coughing, or sneezing — even if those people are not exhibiting symptoms.” “In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) especially in areas of significant community-based transmission,” the advisory stated. The CDC supported its new position by citing several studies about the asymptomatic spread of the disease, the first of which was published on March 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine. “It is becoming increasingly clear that all people should be wearing masks while out in public. Masks are a likely reason why the virus has been better controlled in China, South Korea, Japan, and other countries,” Dr. Subinoy Das, chief medical officer of Tivic Health and the chief executive officer of the U.S. Institute for Advanced Sinus Care and Research, told Healthline. The CDC is recommending, not requiring, mask use when going out in public. The agency stressed that the advisory applies to cloth masks — including homemade masks — not hospital-grade surgical masks and microparticle-filtering N95 masks. “Those are critical supplies that must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders,” according to the CDC. Protecting others, not you When asked about the CDC recommendation, President Donald Trump indicated that he would not comply. “I just don’t want to wear one myself,” the president told reporters. Most experts say you should. “Masks should be worn anytime you are in public or people are nearby. Masks act as a physical barrier to protect you and others from viral and bacterial particulates. Many people unknowingly infect others by going out and spreading germs by coughing or touching others,” Keane Veran, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oura, a maker of face masks, told Healthline. “You can go out in public areas without a mask if there is no one nearby. Otherwise, regardless if it’s close quarters or spaced out, you should wear a mask with others around. This is precaution and courtesy to yourself and those nearby you.” A cloth mask alone is unlikely to prevent you from inhaling microscopic virus particles, according to Rodney Rohde, PhD, chair of the Clinical Laboratory Science Program and associate dean for research at the College of Health Professions at Texas State University. “The coronavirus will go right through cloth and bandanas… but it will provide a bit of respiratory protection, which can reduce depositing of droplets of the virus on surfaces and to people near you,” Rohde told Healthline. Dr. Luke Padwick, an emergency physician and founder of Austin Emergency Center in Texas, likens the benefit of wearing a mask to coughing or sneezing into your elbow. “Wearing a mask is good for two reasons: It’s going to cut down 95 percent of the breathing that sends the virus up to 6 feet away in a room, and also will reduce fecal/oral transmission by preventing the virus from getting into your nose or mouth” if you touch a contaminated surface and then your face,” Padwick told Healthline. “I think this will slow down the virus a lot.” -
New Donald Trump thread
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
The plot thickens! Now what we need is a good, old-fashioned snitch. How about if the admins award points as a bounty to whoever comes forward with information that leads to the unmasking of this dual-ID fiend? -
New Donald Trump thread
Bobref replied to Muda69's topic in Gridiron Out of Bounds's Out of Bound Forum
Oh boy ! A mystery. Something to occupy our time while quarantined. Who has any clues about the identity of the mysterious multiple user ID, and his/her/its serial downvoting campaign? -
I think their talent level at the skill positions was set to take a step back. That’s why they will have more grad transfers this season than ever before.
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Looks like we’re going to have some form of college football this season, so let’s start the discussion on the Irish here. Just to show you how excited I am (not) for the 2020 team, my starting observation is about the future, not the present. But, the possibility exists that we’ve finally found The Chosen One. https://247sports.com/Article/Notre-Dame-football-2020-national-championship-147165237/ Barton Simmons outlines Notre Dame's path to national title ByAUSTIN NIVISON 15 hours ago 3 Since 2017, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish have been knocking on the door of a national title. So, what can help them take that final step and help them hoist the College Football Playoff National Championship. On the latest episode of the Cover 3 Podcast, 247Sports’ Barton Simmons discussed the path that the Irish should take as they try to build a national championship team. There has been some recent frustration from Notre Dame fans about how Brian Kelly and his staff have done on the recruiting trail. The 2020 signing class finished No. 17 in the country, according to the 247Sports Composite Team Rankings, but Simmons isn’t sure that prohibits the Irish from winning it all. As Simmons points out, Clemson wasn’t recruiting at a top-five level before it began its run of dominance. Notre Dame might be able to follow that same blueprint to take the final step toward being a truly elite program that is in the same category as Alabama, Clemson, and Ohio State. The key is Notre Dame being able to recruit and develop a game-changing quarterback. “Ultimately, as a recruiting program, the best model that they could track — that they could look at and say that could be us — is Clemson,” Simmons said. “Pretty good model. Even the Clemson model recruited in a range that Notre Dame recruits at now. When they started jumping into the top five was after the run of quarterbacks. It was after basically Deshaun Watson. Notre Dame fans, I think rightly, are very dialed into recruiting. Why can’t we get the talent Alabama and Ohio State are getting? Until we do that, we are never going to win national championships. That’s true, to a degree. “The bigger thing, for me, is when you get that quarterback that is transcendent, that can elevate the roster you’ve already established into a national championship program. That can elevate the recruiting to follow into top five recruiting, which Brian Kelly has vocalized and said he’s looking for.”Although Simmons doesn’t think that quarterback is already on the Irish’s roster, he may be on his way to South Bend next year. Five-star signal caller Tyler Buchner could be the player Notre Dame has been searching for. “Ian Book is not that guy,” Simmons said. “That’s no shot at Ian Book. He’s a good quarterback, but he’s not the transcendent guy. They’ve got a 2021 quarterback committed named Tyler Buchner. That kid, I think, is the best shot at a transcendent type of quarterback that they’ve had committed … I think this kid has the best shot to be that type of transcendent quarterback. So, that’s the thing to keep an eye on with Notre Dame if you want to take that next step, which obviously they’re ready for.” Notre Dame’s 2021 recruiting class currently ranks No. 9 in the country, per the 247Sports Team Rankings
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I would clearly have been drafted but for the College student deferment rule. Incidentally, at that particular time, the student deferment was up for renewal in Congress, and it was by no means certain the deferment program would have continued. This uncertainty had 2 effects. First, it made my Mom go right off the deep end. Second, it found me enrolling in Air Force ROTC my freshman year. The following September, the student deferment ended ... for those born in 1952 or later. I had a brother born in 1952. Guess what his draft number was. Hint: 1952 was a leap year.
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I vividly remember the day my conservative Midwestern mother turned dramatically against the war in Vietnam. It was July 1, 1970. That was the day of the Selective Service Lottery for those born in 1951. My number was 39. Up until then, I was having a great summer. Getting ready to head off to Notre Dame. Hitting > .400 in Legion ball. Had a nice job and a great girlfriend. Talk about dropping a turd in the punch bowl!
