Bobref

5 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

By not allowing every team in, we gain nothing. We aren't better off by not allowing teams in. 

Again, you simply make these pronouncements, without any supporting rationale. A qualification format turns regular season games into playoff games. Who gets excited when two 4-4 teams play each other in Week 9? Nobody. But if a playoff qualifying spot is on the line, suddenly a ho-hum game turns into a playoff game. Better for players, coaches, fans … everyone.

Now, explain to everyone why the all-in, with its 9 weeks of practice games, is better for a high school football in Indiana.

35 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Every kid should be able to play in the sectional

Says who? I never got to play in a football sectional, and I don’t feel deprived. You “deserve” what you earn. Apparently, thousands and thousands of kids all over the country are just ticking time bombs because they didn’t get to the playoffs in their respective states when they were in high school. Thank goodness we don’t have to worry about that in Indiana. 

13 minutes ago, tango said:

Which would be roughly about $3,250 per school ($1.3M / 400 schools)?  

I wouldn’t assume the distribution formula was equal shares, although it might well be.

3 hours ago, Punttheball said:

I do believe, after the sectional round of play, schools are only given reimbursement checks.  No revenue generated from regional, semi-state, or state games is given back to the schools.

 

I would say you are technically correct, but not practically. Revenue from the upper levels of the tournament goes into the big pot of money from which IHSAA operating expenses are taken out. But the remainder of the pot is distributed to all schools. So, to the extent the football tournament revenue contributes to that “excess” revenue, it actually does go back to the schools.

Speaking of dynasty programs, MaxPreps published this list of the schools that have appeared most frequently in its Top 25 rankings, over the last decade. Only one school on the list is East of the Mississippi and North of the Mason-Dixon Line.

4 hours ago, tango said:

I'd love to see a breakdown of salaries and what the IHSAA spends in attorney fees. To my knowledge it isn't included in anything available to the public. 

It’s probably in the Annual Report somewhere.  I know their General Counsel, Robert Baker, has a salary of just under $160K.

6 hours ago, oldtimeqb said:

Well, it is admirable they return $1.3 million to schools and keep only $1.1 million, it’s the more than $3 million in ‘Administration’ (32% of the $9.68 million operating expense) that gives me pause.

Bureaucracies are not cheap, and they rarely fund themselves.

If you compare the IHSAA to the parallel organizations in other states, you’d see that the IHSAA runs pretty lean in terms of staffing and salary.

24 minutes ago, Bobref said:

 

24 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Are you aware that tournament revenue that goes “to the IHSAA” is distributed to the schools after IHSAA operating expenses are deducted?

Here’s the IHSAA’s financial summary from the 2021 Annual Report. The IHSAA keeps about 10% of total revenue for its overhead, salaries, etc. It distributes about 12% of its total revenue back to the schools - $1.3 million in this report. The remainder is operating expense.

22 hours ago, Punttheball said:

 

Nah, that's not my point.  I would be ok if we went to 32 teams in a class and stayed with 6 classes.  I think it would be better to put a 10th game into play and give the revenue to the schools instead of the IHSAA.  But you can twist it anyway you want.  

Are you aware that tournament revenue that goes “to the IHSAA” is distributed to the schools after IHSAA operating expenses are deducted?

10 hours ago, PDB26 said:

everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win.

I think you mean “everyone wants to feel like they have a chance to win, even though they didn’t earn that chance during the regular season when they had the opportunity.”

The Region Sports Network is reporting that Rick Good has resigned, after 3 years as head football coach at Lake Central.

4 hours ago, RegionFBFan said:

This is what makes Indiana high school sports unique and they like being unique.

“Unique” means one of a kind. It says nothing about good or bad, wise or stupid. There is a reason this format is unique … and it’s not because no one else has thought of it yet.

1 hour ago, Punttheball said:

Honestly, 32 teams in all classes is a great number.  The problem is when and where you play 10 State Championship games.  

As we edge ever closer to participation trophies.

19 hours ago, Punttheball said:

I don't think private schools are allowed into their state playoffs.

Private schools won the 5A, 7A, and 8A football championships in Illinois in 2023.

31 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

So smacking teenage girls’ asses is unacceptable…..I was not aware, no one explained that to me when I was hired….and after she asked him to stop….be a man!

13 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

I was told if he’s not on the line he’s in the backfield.

By whom?

2 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

I don't get it.  Please, explain.

 

Following. 😂

12 minutes ago, Bobref said:

The definitions of a “lineman” and a “back” have not changed. Rule 2-32

“ART. 3 . . . A back is any A player who has no part of his body breaking the plane of an imaginary line drawn ­parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the nearest teammate who is legally on the line, except for the player under the snapper, who is also considered a back.”

“ART. 9 . . . A lineman is any A player who is facing his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and with his head or foot breaking an imaginary plane drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the snapper when the ball is snapped.”

So, a player assuming a position where neither his head nor foot breaks the plane through the waist of the snapper, but who does have any part of his body breaking the plane of the waist of the nearest lineman teammate, is neither a back nor a lineman.

The editor timed out before I finished.

A player who lines up and is neither a back nor a lineman, if he is not the QB, causes the formation to be illegal under 7-2-3. He can’t legally go downfield on a pass, he’s not an eligible receiver, he can’t legally touch a forward pass, and he can’t be in motion at the snap unless he fulfills the requirements of 7-2-7.

All of these are fouls. All routinely occur when the wingback lines up too close to the LOS. All are routinely ignored. Until now? Stay tuned.

@US31 does that answer your question?

31 minutes ago, Impartial_Observer said:

After the change in the requirements for lineman, I was under the impression if they weren’t on the line, they were in the backfield. 

The definitions of a “lineman” and a “back” have not changed. Rule 2-32

“ART. 3 . . . A back is any A player who has no part of his body breaking the plane of an imaginary line drawn ­parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the nearest teammate who is legally on the line, except for the player under the snapper, who is also considered a back.”

“ART. 9 . . . A lineman is any A player who is facing his opponent’s goal line with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and with his head or foot breaking an imaginary plane drawn parallel to the line of scrimmage through the waist of the snapper when the ball is snapped.”

So, a player assuming a position where neither his head nor foot breaks the plane through the waist of the snapper, but who does have any part of his body breaking the plane of the waist of the nearest lineman teammate, is neither a back nor a lineman.

7 hours ago, US31 said:

From a coaches perspective....I'm honestly curious about this statement, and what things you think would be "sticky".  First thing that comes to my mind would be OL not lined up on the LOS...or too many WR off the LOS.  But that may not be what you are referring to...

Would love to hear you elaborate👍

I’m referring to the common practice of lining a wingback up so that his position is neither on the line nor in the backfield. There are many implications that flow from lining up in that position … all of which are routinely ignored.

3 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

If Bears end up drafting Williams 1st, he should SIT a year, if they trade down, stick with Fields and draft lets say JJ McCarthy (that is scenario I hope for) then JJ sits and you get a better OC in for Fields this year and we get to see what this guy actually can do with proper coaching.  Something IMO he has yet to be able to experience 

Makes sense, but for Fields’ contract situation. The Bears have until this May, I believe, to pick up the 5th year option, at a cost of about $25 million. Do you want your starting QB to be playing on an expiring contract? That’s a guaranteed “pulled hamstring.” 😉

29 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

For every C.J. Stroud-like rookie season there are a dozen rookie QB seasons that are mediocre to poor.

Triple that … where the Bears are concerned.

2 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

agree,  get present quickly on sidelines, especially when other teams sidelines, keeps from nonsense happening. 

I believe they also have one guy specifically designated to monitor the line to gain equipment. You know, to make sure no one gets hit in the eye …

🤣😂

24 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

3.  What did you think about what seemed like 4 extra.crews on the sidelines?  

Those were the alternates, I believe. They are always there. But, obviously, they have now been given an expanded role. I like it. Gives the guys on the field help when they need it most.

6 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

HOW does NO ONE on 49ers staff understand the playoff OT rules.

I can’t help but think that if it had been an official making a mistake of that magnitude he’d have to get a new identity, complete with plastic surgery, and move to Paraguay.

2 hours ago, Muda69 said:

So Gardner Minshew wasn't a quarterback?  You could have fooled me.

 

Minshew has done a great job … in his role as a backup, which he accepted There was no QB controversy there. There would be if both Fields and Caleb Williams were on the same roster.