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Plenty of blame to go around, which is usually the case when things get screwed up. The R should not have blown the whistle. The LaVille QB should have taken a knee when he told the R he was going to. Andrean coaching staff should have known the correct down. It’s high school football.

Did some investigating and watched the Hudl video. Here’s what happened in the last couple minutes of the Andrean - LaVille game: LaVille recovered Andrean onside kick, and had 1st down with 1:35 remaining. On the 1st play, the QB takes a knee immediately. On 2nd down, the Referee blows an inadvertent whistle. This was caused by the LaVille QB telling the R he was going to take a knee, and then taking the snap and backpedaling several steps before he goes down. This is a bad mistake, no doubt, but under the circumstances, somewhat understandable. But it happens, and any official who tells you they’ve never had an IW is probably lying. LaVille elects to replay the down. So, it’s 2nd down, but Andrean thinks the down counts and it’s 3rd down. This, despite the fact that the officials verbally instructed the box man that it was 2nd down, not 3rd, and the downs marker, which is on the Andrean sideline, is changed to 2nd down. Andrean apparently does not appreciate this. LaVille does another kneel down, then takes a delay penalty. On 3rd down, the LaVille QB runs around a little and then goes down. He does the same thing on 4th down, and runs out the clock. From my review of the sequence of events, it’s apparent that nothing that the officials did affected the outcome. The crew’s performance over the final 1:35 was not optimal, but the real trouble started when LaVille said they were taking a knee, and did not go down immediately from “Victory” formation(after doing just that on 1st down). This led to the IW, which, in turn caused Andrean to lose count of the downs, despite what the officials said, and what was displayed on the downs marker.

Sparty is a true dumpster fire. It will be interesting to see how that coaching situation shakes out.

I’d say the evidence is more than circumstantial. 🤣😂😅

Standard practice when the QB tells you he’s going to take a knee is to tell him “Do it immediately and hand me the ball, or I can’t protect you.”

Eagles have their starting QB back, and head into the playoffs riding the momentum of a 14-7 win on the road at [previously] Ohio #1 ranked Archbishop Hoban. They finish 9-1, only a 2 pt. loss at 10-0 Massillon Washington when they had to go with the backup QB marred their record. Now, on in search of the three-peat.

If the “tip” occurs after the contact that is judged to be interference, strictly speaking, it is theoretically possible to still have DPI. But keep in mind one of the elements of pass interference is that the receiver is prevented from making a play on the ball by the interference. If the “tip” causes the ball to be off target so the receiver could not have made a play on it even without the interference, it’s no foul. Also keep in mind that defensive PI restrictions do not begin until the pass is in the air.

That is exactly what happens most of the time. The offense notifies the officials that they are taking a knee. The officials let the defense know, in order to minimize the possibility of unsportsmanlike acts. There is even a specific procedure in the officials’ manual on dealing with Victory formation.

Ironic, isn’t it, that you’re criticizing the officiating crew for poor communication? 😂🤣😅

“Well let’s start with the refs weren’t not good..” “it’s a reply of 2nd down” “Laville takes another kneel“ “Andrean then runs our field goal“ “Andrean goes ape shit because didn’t understand as refs didn’t horrible job of last 1:35 of game“ If the referees were no better than the gibberish you wrote, they must have been very bad, indeed, Mr. Member.

Pioneer answers. Pioneer 8 North Judson 6. 11:57 of the 2nd.

North Judson strikes first. 6-0 over Pioneer. 4:37 of the 1st.

Elmer Layden was a long time figure in the insurance business in The Region,

Perhaps more trouble? https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38696639/ncaa-investigating-no-2-michigan-amid-sign-stealing-allegations NCAA investigating No. 2 Michigan amid sign-stealing allegations The NCAA is investigating the No. 2 Michigan Wolverines football program amid allegations of sign stealing, the school announced Thursday. "I want to personally assure you that U-M Athletics will offer its complete cooperation to the NCAA in this matter," athletic director Warde Manuel said in a statement. "At the University of Michigan, all of us are committed to the highest standards of ethics and integrity for all members of our community. This is the same expectation I have of all coaches, staff, and student-athletes." The University of Michigan and the Big Ten were both notified by the NCAA of the investigation Wednesday, and the conference said it had notified the Wolverines' future opponents. "The Big Ten Conference considers the integrity of competition to be of utmost importance and will continue to monitor the investigation," it said in a statement. A source told ESPN's Adam Rittenberg that the NCAA's investigation also includes allegations of similar violations by Michigan before the 2022 season. Upcoming opponents have not expressed opposition to playing Michigan after being notified by the NCAA, sources told ESPN. The NCAA does not have rules specifically against stealing signs but does prohibit in-person advance scouting of opponents and has bylaws prohibiting unsportsmanlike activities. According to a report by Yahoo Sports, Michigan allegedly had people attending games of future opponents as well as possible College Football Playoff opponents to gather information on signs used to call plays on offense and defense. A source confirmed to ESPN that in-person scouting is the focus of the NCAA investigation. If true, the Wolverines would have violated NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which states: "Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited." U.S. Integrity, a Las Vegas firm that monitors the betting market, sent out an alert to its sportsbook clients regarding the Michigan controversy Thursday, ESPN confirmed. Multiple Big Ten coaches this offseason were advocates of exploring helmet communication as a way to generally better protect signs, a source told ESPN's Pete Thamel. Potential NCAA rule changes, however, were tabled until after this season. The NFL has long used helmet communication for signals, with the first version limited to sideline communication in 1994. Michigan (7-0) plays Michigan State on Saturday. "We are chagrined by the news of the NCAA investigation and we echo the Big Ten Conference's commitment to integrity," Michigan State University interim president Teresa Woodruff said in a statement. "The allegations are concerning, but will be handled through the NCAA's processes." In its statement, Michigan said the investigation would not impact the game. Wolverines coach Jim Harbaugh has already served a university-imposed three-game suspension this season stemming from alleged recruiting violations during the COVID-19 dead period and for not cooperating with NCAA investigators. Michigan still is facing four Level II violations, which are considered less serious, from those alleged violations. That ruling from the NCAA is not expected until 2024.

Agreed. ND’s “Subway Alumni” make these people look like rank amateurs. And there is nothing like wiping that smarmy, self-righteous smirk off Dabo’s face. It’ll be a pleasure.

OK, now even @temptationhas to admit that’s funny.

They talk some serious trash in the SEC. This is from the Facebook page of “Dawgnation.” But, is it a case of the pot calling the kettle black?

On this day in 1924, at the famed Polo Grounds in New York one of the most iconic groups in the early 20th century happened. This group lead the Irish to a 13-7 victory over a tremendous Army team. After the game famed sportswriter Grantland Rice wrote in the New York Herald-Tribune one of the most iconic articles in sports: ‘Outlined against a blue, gray October sky the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases. Their real names are: Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds this afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down upon the bewildering panorama spread out upon the green plain below.’ The legend of the Four Horsemen was born.

The short answer to your question is that the new rule has not changed the spot of enforcement on a foul in your own end zone. Still a safety.

3 weeks?

Foul.

It doesn’t have the comedic value.

It’s been 8 years, and this is still my 2nd favorite college football play of all time.

I sure hope not.

Remember that night well. We dressed in the storage room where the band kept its instruments. As we were getting ready, some band kids walked in to pick up their stuff. I’m pretty sure most of them have completed the necessary psychotherapy by now.