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  1. 3 hours ago, US31 said:

    I have no argument with that....

    What I will argue with, however, is if Coach Freeman is let go for "not winning the big one"...even though he is graduating players at a very high rate.  There have been a lot of good coaches shown the door at ND since Lou.  Willingham, Weiss, and Kelly were good coaches....(I know Kelly left more or less on his terms, but his frustrations with the above discussion were well known, and were what lead him to leave...his goals are a National Champtionship.)

    Again, I'm not disagreeing with anything you or other posters have said.  Just pointing out that players and coaches who have realistic aspirations of winning a national title are likely to avoid ND.  Players in the program may have changing priorites and choose to leave.   This is the reality.

    It would be interesting if the B1G, SEC, and Big12 choose to leave the NCAA in their dust and go completley separate in FB and MBB.  Would ND choose to be the torchbearer in going back to a more traditional college athletics model...along with the leftovers of Div1?  

    Or do they want the money just as bad as everyone else?

    Freeman won't ever be let go for not winning the big one, just as Kelly wasn't let go. If he can average 9 or 10 wins per season, his job is safe as long as he's running a clean program. Willingham and Weiss aren't good comparisons. Willingham couldn't recruit and Weiss just flat out lost focus after awhile. 

    I think Notre Dame attracts the type of kid that think's he's capable of taking the Irish to a championship level. And if he doesn't, well, he has one hell of a degree to show for his hard work and time. Can a championship be achieved using the current model? I think so. If you look back over the last 13 or so years, Notre Dame's had at least two teams that were a great quarterback away from winning the whole thing. 

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  2. 2 hours ago, US31 said:

    In theory...maybe.  In practice, No.

    One of the primary reasons that, while the Holy fathers "say" they are a premier national program, all they are really trying to be is the best version of the Standfords and Northwesterns.  If you want to beat B1G and SEC premier teams...you need to recruit and accept the same players they are recruiting and accepting.

    My vote is for Notre Dame to not sell their soul to the devil. Getting to a high profile bowl game with a bunch of smart kids should suffice. Throwing a bunch of academically unqualified young men into the university for the sole sake of winning a championship compromises the integrity of the university. And I'll be the first to admit, it's a breath of fresh air to see their kids intelligently articulate themselves during interviews after the game. The chances of Notre Dame winning a national championship is a lot lower than what it was back in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. The college football landscape has changed, integrity appears to be at an all time low. Finishing in the Top 10 is the new benchmark for the Irish unfortunately. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, Bobref said:

    I can’t take credit … if I was correct. I stole it from a post by @temptation, who posted that ND’s “ceiling” under the new plan was #5. Since he is the clearinghouse for all things potentially negative about Notre Dame, I trust his interpretation. 😉

    Love it. 

  4. The way I'm reading it, Bob is correct. The best Notre Dame can do is #5. The system already needs to be reworked though. I'm on board with the Big 10, ACC, and the SEC getting a first round bye. Each of those conferences are going to produce a legitimate contender. But with Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Washington jumping ship to the SEC and Big 10, I'm struggling with the Pac 12 and Big 12 getting that fourth spot. I get it, the NCAA wants the conference championship to mean something. But the Big 12 and Pac 12 aren't what they once were.

    Long story short? It's time for Notre Dame to make a move. The Big 10 makes the most sense. If Notre Dame wants their brand to stretch from coast to coast, the Big 10 will provide that and secure their annual game with USC. Keep Navy, ditch Stanford for Washington or Oregon. Replace Clemson with (cough cough) Maryland or Rutgers. Play one of those games on the road when hosting Navy that year. That way their brand on the East Coast remains. Notre Dame's only concern at this point is lack of brand in the Southeast. 

  5. 9 hours ago, Rodney said:

    i still take westfield to win that game 3/4 times

    Why do you feel they lost that one game? There's flaws all over the place with these polls. Indy Lutheran isn't beating Carroll, sorry. They aren't beating Merrillville or Valpo either. No way no how. 

    Side note: I do appreciate the polls and what they have to offer, we just have to acknowledge them for what they are. They're computers that process numbers. They've never seen a game. 

  6. 1 minute ago, Irishman said:

    yes......and the girls' tourney is not IHSAA sanctioned, but is run by the coaches association. It's held in January. 

    Got it. I was wondering how she was 7th in the nation and 6th in the state. Thanks for the education :). That comeback from down 9-1 had to be quite the scene. Gotta love high school sports. 

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  7. 1 minute ago, Irishman said:

    In that same poll, Heather Krull from Northeastern HS, in the same weight class (lost her 1st round match Friday night) had been ranked ahead of Julianna. I could not find a poll after that, but I am guess both changed rankings after the girls' State tournament where Ocampo won that weight class. 

    So to clarify, she was ranked 7th in the nation among girls? Also, didn't know there was a girls tournament. 

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  8. 2 minutes ago, Irishman said:

    In the last girls' poll I could see from November, yes. 

    I remember seeing her at a meet a couple years ago. My wife thought it was pretty cool to see a girl out there. I remember telling her that I respect the young lady for competing out there, but the chances of her winning were slim. Well, she won, and I'll never doubt another female wrestler again. 

  9. 10 hours ago, Basementbias said:

    She'll wrestle 3x today. Adams County genes on both sides. Her dad was a Bellmont wrestler and her mom's side are AC folks. A lot of athleticism on both sides.

    I guess that explains why she's so damn good. 

    1 hour ago, Irishman said:

    She finishes in 6th place. Cannot wait to see all she accomplishes over the next year. 

    Are you sure she's ranked 7th in the nation?

  10. 16 minutes ago, First_Backer_Inside said:

    Yes, but I mean its a part of the game. We've had kids get injured in the scrimmage game. Heck when I played we went live in practice all the time. We spent more time beaten the snot out of each other and getting injured during practice than we did in games. Even going pro pads and thudding in practices nowadays there are still freak accidents that happen. I understand where you are coming from because it will be more wear and tear on the kids bodies, but injuries happen all the time, it sucks, but it happens.

    That's also a good point. As a fan, I'd take the 10th game in a heartbeat since the season always seems to go by quickly. I'm sure the AD's wouldn't mine the extra revenue that a 10th game would provide. 

  11. 6 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

    I don't think that is true. 

    And to your last sentence-- at camp we get 4 whole practices against other teams. It was all filmed-- counting 7 on 7 reps+11 on 11 reps-- We were probably around 300-350 reps against other teams. That doesn't count our other 2 competition days. 

    Now-- I would also be fine with keeping the scrimmage against an opponent in week 1 of regular practice and eliminating the intrasquad scrimmage, that's fine with me.  

    Good point. Things are certainly different now than what they used to be. If I'm doing the math right, doesn't the risk for a player getting injured before the postseason go up approximately 10% by adding another game? Is it really worth it? 

  12. 17 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

    @BTF what was your confusion? Big fan of scrimmages? 

    As a fan, I don't care one way or another. I would imagine, as a coach, you're probably in the minority with regard to eliminating the scrimmage. I'm guessing most coaches would rather knock heads against another team in a practice game before kicking off when it actually counts. 

  13. 1 hour ago, RegionFBFan said:

    Coach Marshall is a great coach and they have a great staff but why leave Valpo? He has built Valpo program to rival Penn. Valpo already in a better conference than Penn.

    He's pretty good with an enrollment of 2100. Scary how good he could be with 3500. But where is he more than likely going to make deep runs in the playoffs? He might be better off at Valpo in 5A..................Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Marshall take over at Penn. The Kingsmen would be a force. I think the rest of 6A north would have their hands full. 

  14. 3 hours ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

    Come on....could you imagine running onto Notre Dame Stadium's turf as a Senior at list any 1A or 2A school for your final game of football...

    I know the post said 6A, but I think it would be interesting for any class.

    I love Notre Dame as much as anyone, but high school championships are meant to be played inside :). Let's do semi-state in South Bend, I'm down for that. 

  15. 13 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

    Should 2100 body schools play schools of 1000 kids in tournament play? 


    That was the #1 reason to split into 6 classes, the discrepancy of Carmel to Munster was 3k kids 


    So, the question is what is the most realistic top end to bottom end enrollment wise that keeps the schools in competitive classes?   


    I just did 5a into top 32 4a to show what that would look like 

    thats an awful lot of kid difference from Top to Bottom 

    Without running the numbers, I always felt that it should be 32 in 6A and 32 in 1A. Well, I guess that's why we run numbers. IHSAA got it right. 

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