BTF

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

rodney does not bet on 1a football

 

also i cannot pinpoint you on a map

Adams Central is 2A now 🙂

6 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

I'm not an administrator, so that's not my call.

Lol, there ya go. 

6 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

So Rodney also needs a subforum of his own as well? It's possible to create a private club on here, where only the members can see it. Is this what you would suggest?

Rodney is right here where he belongs, amongst the fans. 

2 hours ago, Basementbias said:

Yeah, I was including SA with AC for this. SA made it to regionals how many times and fell to AC. Be curious to see how they do without AC around, though they were in a bit of rebuilding last year instead of reloading. 

Fortunately for South Adams, Adams Central will no longer be a road block for them. I love the challenge AC will face in 2A. 

I do have an issue with the success factor though. Although AC would have been 2A regardless as a result of increase in enrollment, I don't agree that they should bump up a class as a result of points without a state title to show for it. Maybe that's something the IHSAA could look into. 

4 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Is this an appropriate "football" thread, BTF?

 

I'm not an administrator so it's not my judgment call. I do consider this a fan forum though. The coaches have their own exclusive forum and very rarely do I ever see a current player posting on here. So in my opinion, I don't see it as inappropriate. I think you also have to the look at the source. Many of this poster's threads are created for entertainment purposes only, not to be taken literal. 

10 hours ago, Basementbias said:

Man we send a Class 1A state finalist 4 years in a row and aren't good enough to be in the area to pick from. Bummer.

Adams Central and East Central are the outlier to this theory. There should have been a dot on those two small towns rather than a line that included the entire southeast portion of Indiana. The Jets are, arguably, the best football program in the state of Indiana regardless of class. 

Disclaimer: There are probably 15 programs in the state that could make that same claim. 

41 minutes ago, BDGiant93 said:

Hardly anyone in 6A plays on grass these days in Central Indiana. I'd have to go back and look to see the last time Ben Davis played a game on a grass field. It may have been when Terre Haute North and South were in the MIC.

But no one plays indoors. Add the two together and you have the perfect storm. 

3 hours ago, temptation said:

I’m thinking we need a new separate OT forum where @gonzoron and @Muda69 can scream at clouds in peace.

They certainly don't care to discuss much in the way of football. 

7 hours ago, Muda69 said:

Advocating for gambling on a game played by children is tasteless. 

 

Have you not been paying attention to any of Rodney's posts? See Temp's post above. 

This is probably going to upset Cody. No representation from The Region. 

57 minutes ago, Bobref said:

I remember the Graham kid from Warren just laying somebody out on a kick return. Could not believe that kid got up from that one.

Ironically, one of the loudest hits I've ever heard on the gridiron was one in which a kid on Warren's kickoff team was the victim. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you. 

18 minutes ago, PDB26 said:

I'm certain the defense got through the game (physically) unscathed! Mentally––very, very scathed. I suppose you could argue we didn't have a single able-bodied player from the opening kickoff given the results.

We for sure had one unreported head injury on special teams––of course those were the dying days of the bell-ringing era.

It's good that everyone can look back and laugh. At the end of the day, Penn still has five state titles  in the largest school division and the best record in the state spanning four decades. 

11 hours ago, Bobref said:

By the end of the game, I’m not sure Penn even had 15 able-bodied players left on either defense or special teams.

Ouch, that one will hurt. 

25 minutes ago, temptation said:

@Bobref?

I was thinking Rodney, but Bobref will do. 

I've got Penn winning 10-7 in overtime with 15 players on defense. But that's only if they have 15 on the kickoff team and the punt team. If special teams are even up, I'll give you your 14 points. 

3 minutes ago, temptation said:

Nah, Penn could have had 15 players on the field on defense that night and still lost by 14.

May need a second opinion here. Can I call a friend? 

30 minutes ago, temptation said:

So it would have been 47-7.

No chance of scoring 100 though.  If the snow was falling, we're probably talking 28-14. 

25 minutes ago, temptation said:

I’ve posted this on here multiple times and will again since it seems Penn fans can now comfortably joke about it.

Warren could’ve scored 100 that night.

Agree. Therefore, the state championship should be played on a grass field near Lake Michigan somewhere. 

1 hour ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Yes, when you live in the city in which the school resides you will typically just use the name of the school. In media and when talking to people who are not always familiar with the schools around the state, using Indianapolis, South Bend or Fort Wayne helps the lay person know where in the state we are talking about.  I believe there is a South Bend Washington and a Washington HS.... If someone just posted a topic saying....OMG did you see what happened at Washington over the weekend?  most people will probably think uh oh something happened in South Bend...but the thread could be about the 4A school in southern Indiana. Plus Harrell's website lists the schools from those towns above with the city name in it.

Or they just use parentheses. Carroll (Fort Wayne) or Carroll (Flora). Carroll(Fort Wayne) sits just outside city limits, so they don't get the Fort Wayne Carroll label. The high school itself has a Fort Wayne address, but many of their students have a Huntertown address. 

40 minutes ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Well it doesn't matter, now one was getting beat 57-7....unless Penn was playing in the game. 

Look at it this way. If they cut the state in half that year, Penn would have been state champions. 

6 hours ago, BDGiant93 said:

I know it was a very small dataset, but you could see in the scrimmage that Westfield was going to have trouble against Ben Davis. They could not keep BD's defensive line out of their offensive backfield.

The only thing slowing BD down is the grass. You get them in the perfect indoor environment, and it's lights out. I'll argue day and night that turf favors the faster team. I think Westfield would have suffered the same fate at Crown Point. I could be wrong, just my take. 

2 hours ago, Trojanmp52 said:

 Saying Fort Wayne ( what ever school it is) helps people know where said school is located.  If you just Snider most people would have no clue where that is at.

Agree. But a team has to be located inside the city limits. Harding, for example sat on the outside of Fort Wayne city limits and was part of the East Allen County school system. However, 90% of their student body was from inside city limits. That's partially true of Carroll and Homestead. Both cities sit on the outside, with many students sitting on the inside. Long story short, if the school sits inside limits, then it's labeled as such. No ones ever said "Indianapolis Carmel." We're just left wondering where suburban schools are from...........I guess that's what google is for. 

6 hours ago, Komets2727 said:

To be fair, It is not Fort Wayne Wayne, it is just Wayne. Example, it is not Fort Wayne Snider or Fort Wayne Luers or Fort Wayne Dwenger either

That's interesting. Not very often do you hear just Jefferson, it's Lafayette Jeff. Or Riley, it's South Bend Riley. Evansville Reitz. Indianapolis Ritter. I think when a city has more than one high school, it's common to label them with the city name in front. When there is one high school, it's just named after the ciy..............Warsaw, New Haven, Angola, ect. 

7 minutes ago, Rodney said:

I'll take indy and u can have everyone else and 19 points

`Hmmm

1 hour ago, PDB26 said:

We were really good that year, and 2002 was a huge lost opportunity for Penn. 

If––not to overlook a semi-state matchup with Snider––Penn had made it to state, then Ben Davis's last three tournament games would have been against the three teams they lost to in the regular season.

Penn was good that year. Missed opportunities are a tough pill to swallow. Homestead was also very good that year. Both teams would like a do over I'm sure. 

14 minutes ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

I agree there are reasons to be excited about the progression of the best teams in 6A North, but right now I am putting money down on the House. Betting odds are in their favor, it is up to the other schools to go and take it. It is like the BIG10 and the SEC. It took a generational team in Michigan to finally beat Bama and a hot team in OSU to win in 2014. 

Sometimes lightening in a bottle can win you a title, sometimes you finally have to horses to do it, but no one has sustained success like the SEC... I mean Metro Indy.  

I'm 50/50. I betting Crown Point is more than just a one year wonder. Carroll has a D1 quarterback, and Snider's defense has the potential to be as good as they were last year led by two D1 defensive backs. Weeks 1 & 2 will be interesting. Fort Wayne takes on Indy. Crown Point takes on Arizona Prep. We'll see real quick what the north is made of.