Footballking16

Pass. Not worth it, you're in over your head.

Outside their inaugural year in the B10 when they went 8-5, they've won 4, 2, 4, 1 and 2 games and it's precisely because they've cut off their NJ recruiting ties playing in a Midwestern conference and now competing against teams who have some of the largest athletic budgets in the country. I don't believe Schiano will be Chris Ash bad, but it will be a monumental uphill battle for Rutgers just to get 5-6 wins a year regularly.

Tier 1: OSU, UM, PSU, WIS Tier 2: MSU, IA, NW, MN Tier 3: PU, IU, NE, MD Rutgers is in a tier of their own. They stink.

I think Outback Bowl is giving them wayyyy too much credit. That would involve a 9, possibly 10 win season. Ain't happening in the B10 East.

Every P5 school hiring is paying their coach ~$4/mil. That's the going rate these days. This isn't 2008 anymore. Rutgers could compete in the old Big East, they are doomed in the B10.

Not disagreeing about tiers although I would put Rutgers in a tier of their own. They STINK. They aren't anywhere close to passing anyone.

Rutgers doesn't have the money/facilities/resources/fan support to compete in the B10. Rutgers will enjoy a short period uptick in recruiting (similar to that of Purdue the last couple years) by being able to offer immediate playing time until it plateaus.

Shhh. We don't want to confuse certain posters about timed-speed.

I think that's a doom scenario but there should be some major concern with the lack of development across the offensive line heading into year 4 along with a very thin, albeit talented D-line. I think Purdue fans see the uptick in recruiting, but its loaded at the skill positions and not spread across the field. Guys like Moore, Bell, and Wright are great individual talents, but not talents who single handily are going to will your teams to victory. Not going to have very much success if you can't protect your QB or stop anybody at the LOS. Most Purdue fans I interact with dismiss last season as an anomaly due to injuries, but many seem to be putting all their eggs in one basket banking on a bunch of RS freshman or injured underclassmen who have yet to see significant game action. I still think Purdue is at least two years away from really being able to "contend" for a B10 west title.

When do you realistically see Purdue becoming an 8-9 win team moving forward? Purdue's secondary is bad, their LB corps isn't great, and they are very thin on the DL and they are now replacing a defensive coordinator. I just don't see Purdue winning 8 regular season games for at least 2 more seasons and that's assuming recruiting stays on the same trajectory.

I think the point about giving him an extension is that you're paying him top 10 money. How long do you give Brohm till he actually has to live up to his paycheck. You go 4-8 at any one of the other 9 schools paying their coaches similar to Brohm you're on the hot seat. Do it again you're gone. Brohm has handcuffed the university and the only way Purdue is off the hook is off Brohm leaves voluntarily which at this point I think his value has worn off.

That St. X team was loaded. We played them a few weeks later and they beat us pretty good. I believe Kuechly was the only sophomore starter but they had a loaded junior class that sent about 6-7 guys D1.

I think at just about every FBS school everyone is on a full scholarship and would say is the case for FCS. D2 is probably 1/2 or partial scholarships. Think it's very rare to give a full-ride in D2.

Yes. 85 scholarships FBS, 63 FBS, 36 D2

I think I’ll take Belichick’s word over yours. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/23/bill-belichick-explains-time-speed-vs-football-speed/

Of course it’s two different types of speed. Track guys are springtime 100 to 200m in a straight line until they get to the finish line. Football players are stopping, starting, cutting, until they get tackled. How many track guys have to change their pace of direction in a race?

Add surface, cleats, weather, contact..it’s two different sports. Put a track guy in those elements and his “track speed” doesn’t always translate.

A lot of football schedules are made years (sometimes decades) in advance so a lot of PU’s non-conference opponents were scheduled under a different regime, but yes it is funny to listen to some Purdue fans down play IU’s schedule and subsequent 8-4 record all while sitting at home.

Well yeah, hence football and track speed. Track speed is all about linear, straight line speed. Football is all about cutting, etc (agility). There’s plenty of “track guys” who wouldn’t cut it in football, and a lot of “fast” football players who would get smoked in a race. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Two different types of “speed”.

I thought Evan Neal, freshman all-American, ended up starting over him?

It's definitely a real thing. There are guys like Usain Bolt and all those other world class sprinters who nobody on a football field is going to touch in a linear race, but football ain't a linear race.

Never heard of football speed as opposed to track speed? There's a lot of guys who have straight line speed who can absolutely fly, "track speed". There's others with exceptional short bursts of speed and the ability to cut and change direction on a dime. This is referred to as "football speed".

Committed back in July but yes he would have been a massive pick up. I have a feeling Emil Ekiyor from Cathedral who is currently at Alabama may enter the portal. Was given a shot earlier in the year and got hurt and may never regain his spot.

He lit up a young Indiana secondary who had built a lead and 3-9 Northwestern. Did alright against Wisconsin but like Indiana had built a big lead and was content giving up the underneath routes. Need to establish a running game and a line that gives the QB time to go through all his progressions for them to be consistent, but yes getting stops will be the death of Purdue next year in my opinion. I watched for 3-4 years as Kevin Wilson trotted out an NFL caliber QB with NFL caliber skill position players (and a good line as well) lose shoot out after shoot out because they didn't have a defense. Might be Purdue's best bet next year, but the B10 has much better defenses than the Big 12.

would be a helluva coach em up job if Brohm gets the Boilers to 9 wins next year given that schedule and inexperience. I think Purdue starts the year 0-2 (Purdue susceptible to slow starts under Brohm) and then wins their next 4. They then lose 3 of their next 4 and are 5-5 heading into the Iowa game.