Footballking16

That's by design and Zionsville won't ever get to mega school status. Zionsville is a town of old money and has been resistant to change in terms of population growth in comparison to it's Hamilton and Hendricks County neighbors. Whitestown is a very fast growing community however and wouldn't be shocked to see a new high school emerge in the coming years, possibly consolidated with Lebanon.

Westfield is emerging as an immediate threat and Brownsburg and Avon have shown the last 5-6 years they are no fluke. If anything I think you'll see more parity in 6A in the years to come. There's multiple role playing aspects that go into athletics with socioeconomics being a small piece. But it's not the end be all, not by a long shot. I've illustrated that in the past. Cathedral winning track and field is really an anomaly but they have an extremely gifted pair of sisters on that squad who come from an extremely athletic family (both brothers are D1 football players who played at CHS previously).

Warren just hired away a hall of fame coach from one of the fastest growing school corporations in the state. They will be fine, as will Ben Davis. Center Grove as good as they've been, also has a generational 2022 class, many who started as sophomores. As we've seen the last 20 years, it's been cyclical between the MIC's Big 4 and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Why? According to you a few months back its all about enrollment and socioeconomic factors. Carmel and Warren are two of the three largest high schools in the state.

The talent composite really illustrates the talent disparity across college football. The talent disparity between Ohio State and a school like Wisconsin, who by most is considered or perceived to be the 4th best B10 team (behind PSU and Michigan) is significantly greater than the talent disparity between Wisconsin and a school like Indiana or Rutgers, by an extremely wide margin.

Those guys (Goodwin and McCullough) were offered by every school in the country. McCullough was previously committed to Ohio State before his dad took a job at Indiana. Blake Fisher was recruited by every school in the country last year. Hunter Johnson was the #1 rated pro-style QB a few years ago. Emil Ekiyor held offers from all over the country and is a starting OL for Bama. Jeff George was the national high school player of the year. Caden Curry is an exceptional talent but nowhere near the highest recruited player in Indiana history.

In what sense? What quantifies that?

Not even the highest ranked player in Indiana this year.

I’ll do a $500 GID donation on over 5.5 wins if anyone wants to take it?

Normally I’d agree, except they went 8-4 the year prior. 5-6 wins would be a massive disappointment and failure given IU’s talent level. Every other program IU beat last year played under the same circumstances.

4 wins would be catastrophic and complete and utter failure if it were to happen. 6 wins should be the bare minimum. Calling IU the 13th best team (in a 14 team conference) is lol your worst take yet. I don’t care what little stars were next to each players name 3-4-5 years ago, it doesn’t matter at this point. IU is a team that has fully bought in to staff and leadership.

Also a very real possibility

I think the fact that he hasn't already committed to Ohio State means the door may still be open for some of the schools that aren't perceived to have a chance, meaning he truly is undecided. Unless he wants to make a big spectacle with an announcement after an all star game or something of that nature (nothing wrong with that by the way), you would have already thought he'd be committed. I doubt he's still holding out for a better offer as he has all the best offers, so who knows.

Right, I should have prefaced it better. Cathedral is being compared (somehow) to IMG here. There is a litany of high schools in the state of Indiana, let alone the Midwest, that send multiple kids a year to FBS schools. It's an accomplishment but not some kind of earth shattering revelation.

I was talking FBS Scholarship players. Langdon is playing at Columbia in FCS. Still a very commendable feat, but Cathedral isn't sending 10+ players a year to D1 schools which is what I was responding too.

Ohio football a different breed than Indiana. Louisville Trinity has 27 state championships. If Cathedral played in 6A they'd just be another really good football program. Nowhere near the IMG moniker you so liberally throw out.

Last several years? Excluding last year Cathedral went 2019: 9-3 lost in regionals 2018: 6-6 lost in sectionals 2017: 7-6 lost in Semi-state 2016: 7-5 lost in regionals 2015: 8-4 lost in regionals I'm sure the pity party for Cathedral was real on here during that stretch.

10 is an anomaly year. It's been stated that Cathedral's 2022 class is a generational class and I doubt when the dust settles Cathedral sends 10+ kids to D1 ranks from the 2022 class. Cathedral typically sends 1-2 kids a class to a D1 football school. It's really not that much different from Dwenger (a similar-sized school) once you really look at it. Cathedral's 2021 class that had arguably the best year in school history didn't send a single player to a D1 school.

The Catholic schools in Indianapolis are deanery schools. They feed into the diocesan high schools of Indianapolis (Chatard, Roncalli, Scecina, Ritter). Cathedral is NOT a diocesan high school, it's a privately run high school. Yes, deanery students attend Cathedral as they do Brebeuf (which also isn't a diocesan high school) but Cathedral nor Brebeuf have direct or inherent feeder schools. It's why they have to take kids from all over the city, catholic or not, to keep their doors open.

I would love it if Cathedral reached the consistent levels of success of those three schools. Those schools are perennial top 25 programs in the country.

Cathedral doesn't have "feeder" schools or a district like Dwenger. It's not a Diocesan school. I'm not sure the point you're trying to make?

12 is too many. Needs to be 8 teams -5 P5 conference champions -3 wildcards with a spot reserved for a G5 school if they finish in the top 10 of the final CFP committee ranking

Cincinnati Xavier OH, Louisville Trinity, Lakewood St. Edward would all like a word with you.

So far, I've gathered that in order to be compared to IMG, your school must: -Give financial aid -Have players with scholarship offers -Not be a diocesan school. Give me 2 hours and I'll be back with a more complete list of schools that fit the bill.

What do you mean by "predominantly work within their Catholic pipeline"? Like admit students from FTW area catholic schools? Well they have too, they are a Diocesan high school. Cathedral isn't. Pretty simple.