Footballking16

Embarrassing. Merrillville and Columbus North can’t beat the like-sized public’s they go against in the 6A tournament. Blaming their lack of postseason success on enrollment disadvantage that really doesn’t affect either program shows how far away either program is from contending for a state championship regardless of what class they’re in.

Lol what? Name the last time a mega-enrollment school ended Columbus North’s season? 10-15 years ago? Warsaw? They need to worry about beating Homestead or Carroll first. Valpo and Snider aren’t even in 6A. There’s two teams that have a legitimate gripe as they play in loaded sectionals; LC and Southport. Is bumping LC and Southport to 5A to routinely play in sectionals with the Cathedral’s, Roncalli’s, and New Pal’s of 5A a seismic difference? No. What does BD and Warren’s enrollment have anything to do with lack of postseason success for the majority of the schools you listed? Nothing.

Would 6A be any different if it was rescinded to 24 teams? 12? 6? Not sure it would.

Never said you commented on it. I asked you a question though as it relates to this thread. Do you think 6A needs to be realigned due to mega-enrollment schools for the betterment of a handful of programs?

Does 6A warrant realignment because of Penn? Fishers, North Central, Pike, Lake Central, HSE; all top 10 enrollments? I didn't think so.

Didn't miss much. Mouse Trap (pain in the ass to set up but worth it) and Operation were the way to go.

Lost in all this nonsense about enrollment is the real root of the problem; tournament alignment. We aren't having this conversation if Carmel went South every year. By my count, there are 6 mega school enrollments who go North; Fishers, Penn, HSE, Lake Central, Noblesville, and Crown Point. No one would give a damn and complain about a mega-enrollment disadvantage if a team like Warsaw or Carroll were losing to teams like Lake Central and Crown Point. A school like Columbus North can't compete in 6A not because they are at an enrollment disadvantage but because they can't beat the like-sized public school 30 miles up the road. Same goes for Warsaw, Lafayette Jeff, Chesterton. These teams aren't bowing out every year to Carmel, Warren, BD, they can't even get out sectionals. It's a silly and preposterous argument.

Clearly. I missed where Center Grove had a mega-enrollment?

Penn and Fishers are no better than the majority of the 8 teams DT is petitioning to move to 5A. It's not an enrollment issue. What else is it then? If you're a school with 3000+ students and only a quarter or so of your students are on free/reduced lunch, how is it anything other than a culture issue? The same week Center Grove schedules the Colts. Nonsensical whataboutism.

And I've given you countless example of why outside factors (namely socioeconomic factors) don't really mean a damn thing. Of the 11-12 would be considered "mega-enrollment schools": -Carmel -Ben Davis -Warren -North Central -Fishers -Penn -Lake Central -Pike -HSE -Avon -Noblesville -Crown Point Literally half of those schools are non-factors in 6A. Penn, Lake Central, Noblesville, Fishers all have extremely high socioeconomic factors and very few free and reduced lunch and are still terrible at football. HSE is very average given the factors you ascribe to be a winning formula and North Central as of 2-3 years ago was absolutely terrible. Throw in Pike as well. We're better off making a separate class for Carmel, Ben Davis, Warren, and Center Grove because it clearly isn't a mega-enrollment problem. Checkers? Dude, you haven't even passed Go yet. Everything you've stated is instantly debunked when it comes to socioeconomic factors (see post above).

So how does Center Grove compete better today at a much larger enrollment disadvantage than they did 20 years ago?? It ain't about enrollment.

So it's not really about enrollment then?

Not hard to understand. 20 years ago Center Grove was no different than Warsaw, LC, Southport, Perry Meridian, etc. playing in a class with schools that had twice their enrollment. They figured it out. They didn't used to be an outlier.

There's an unlevel playing field in literally every class. The state tournament is designed to crown the best team, not cater to individual schools. As for Center Grove, Center Grove wasn't an outlier until they were.

Fair enough. I know the Summit is locked with 10 teams and the SIAC is now. Not sure how you crown a true champion without playing a round robin schedule.

Then I don't understand the point of the merger? How many conferences that have at least 10 teams have open weeks to schedule non-conference opponents?

Believe it starts next year but could be wrong. Amazing it takes a resurgence in the program to get Cathedral back on the schedule. I believe Columbus North gets Cathedral and Roncalli back to back this year.

Expanding Conference Indiana makes some sense although you're not going to get a commitment from Chatard. A locked regular season means no Cathedral and that just isn't going to happen. But Roncalli would be a solid addition. Guessing the HCC and MIC are off the table considering it's borderline unsafe to play schools with that enrollment disparity according to previous comments.

You know, I don’t think that’s the case with Muda. Had you said trying to sound the smartest in a room full of people talking about high school football, I’d agree.

He posted the same drivel even after the mercy rule was enacted. That was never his primary or even secondary goal.

Muda literally went almost an entire decade posting scores of “blowouts” week after week and only offered a solution of taking a knee for the rest of the game once the deficit threshold reached 35. Applaud you for being able to get past his incessant bitching. I for one haven’t.

I spit out the imaginary coffee I wasn't drinking. It's literally his only schtick on this board that's gone on for well over 15 years.

I'm good.

Don't really care about his scheduling habits as much as I do about his contradictory and hypocritical statements in the interview on this very thread in which the interviewer happens to be present and respondent to questions about said interview. Anything else I can do for you Muda?

I'm not the one that gave the interview.