Footballking16

29 minutes ago, fenderbender said:

I am not a life long southsider, so I can only understand what I read in the media guides and spending hours looking at John Harrells page.

However, none of their previous state title runs had margins as large as last year.   No one played withing three touchdowns of them.  (I think a COVID free EC might have had a chance, but we will never know.)

The 3 titles and four consecutive appearances looked like good teams, but one of those started the season with 4 straight losses before winning the next 10 and a title.  Lost to Chatard 3/4 of those seasons.    Did beat Cathedral the three times they met in the playoffs.

The 99 team beat Moeller, ran the table and had pretty good margins.

The 2016 almost lost to Southport in regular season and  Lebanon in sectionals, but just had a way to win games.

I know some will argue that this group did not beat Cathedral, but you can only beat who you play.

They are going to have a couple of carreer records for the WR and QB that will never be broken.

If they win out, I don't know how you could argue against them.

 

Roncalli used to always play a fairly tough schedule. Aside from playing Cathedral and Chatard, they always used to open up with Center Grove and got Franklin Central week 2. Played their fair share of schools from OH as well if I can recall.  

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Neither honestly.  Just want transparency, that’s all.

Lol.

You talk about Cathedral more than some of the people on here actually support Cathedral. You care about Cathedral entirely WAY too much. Clearly. 

1 hour ago, PHJIrish said:

You either love 'em or hate 'em, there's no, or not much, in between.

I think we can all point out the poster who didn't get accepted in to Cathedral. Can't keep their damn out his mouth. 

1 minute ago, BTF said:

Care to elaborate?

That’s an open interpretation my guy.

1 minute ago, BTF said:

Thank you. I'll pray that God keeps Cathedral safe in their David versus Goliath quest for a 5A title. 

Save your prayers for something more worthwhile. Think you may need them.

1 minute ago, BTF said:

I appreciate your compassion. I wouldn't expect anything less from a Christian. 

I’ll say a prayer for your ego tonight.

1 minute ago, BTF said:

No boundaries...................2 million. Cathedral's advantage trumps Carmel's with an enrollment of 5000. There's not a person on this forum with an IQ over 70 who wants to hear about Cathedral's "disadvantage" of having only 1062 students. I've said my piece. I have too much respect for the Cathedral program to engage in this outlandish claim that Cathedral has persevered despite having "only" a limited number of students. 

Open enrollment kills your no boundaries argument. Every public high school in Indianapolis has the ability to take a student from the same 2 million people that Cathedral does. I understand and respect your wishes to bow out of this argument, it’s for your own good.

31 minutes ago, BTF said:

Whatever. As a Catholic myself, I have a ton of respect for all Catholic football programs. Kudos to Cathedral for building the program they have. But don't give us any BS about "only" having 1062 students. They don't have a feeder system and draw from a metropolis of 2 million people. 

They draw from who applies genius. Cathedral has an acceptance rate of >80% and with a typical freshman class being ~350 students that means they typically receive 450-500 applicants a year. A lot of the students who apply to Cathedral also apply to Chatard, Brebeuf, Guerin, etc and ultimately go there there paving the way for students who were initially waitlisted to gain acceptance. Simply put, if you apply to Cathedral, you’re likely getting in. 
 

Any student in Central Indiana can theoretically choose to go wherever they want with open enrollment being instituted so save it.

25 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Just catching up.....Did you really just go Pee Wee Herman on Temptation?

Just a friendly reminder.

Just now, Boilernation said:

Don't be obtuse. 

Forgot where playing a tough regular season schedule was a pre-requisite for playing in the 6A tournament? 
 

You made the comment, not me.

1 minute ago, Boilernation said:

Which makes it a shame the Senior Class can't go out as 6A State Champs. Winning at the highest level could have really put a stamp on this highly talented and battle tested Senior Class. 

It's crazy, at least to me, they've played the following teams in the regular season (20-22): 

• Cincinnati Moeller
• Cincinnati Elder ( X 2)
• Cincinnati St. Xavier ( X 2)
• Bishop Chatard ( X 3)
• Louisville Trinity
• Brefeuf Jesuit ( X 3)
• Center Grove ( X 3)
• Westfield ( X 2)
• Carmel
• Brownsburg
• Penn ( X 2)
• Cincinnati LaSalle ( X 2)
• Columbus North

Yet, They have no idea what it's like to play in a 6A Playoff Game. 

 

 

Sounds like something you should take up with the IHSAA.

Not sure how this has anything to do with the current senior class.

3 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

Westfield was 6A runner up in 2020. Cathedral swapped out Carmel (in 2020) for Brownsburg (in 2021).  CG is a wash. Agree on Chatard and Brebeuf.

Uhh Chatard was a top 5 team regardless of class last year. They aren’t better this year than last year. 

1 minute ago, CaptainHook said:

Yes.  All of that is forgotten when you score 6.

Says who? You? Sorry they don’t play an HHC schedule every week.

8 minutes ago, Slobberknocker said:

So the 2020 offense that managed just 6 offensive points / one touchdown against Center Grove is the greatest offense in Cathedral history. Hmmm 🤔

You just going to forget the 14 other games they scored 30+?
 

-hung 56 on 6A runner-up

-44 on Carmel

-beat Ohio large class state champion

-40 in 3A champ who was top 5 regardless of class

-hung 38 on La Salle who was a top 10 team in Ohio 

567 points to my knowledge is the single season scoring record at Cathedral.

I know it doesn’t mean a damn thing but CalPreps has the 2021 team beating the 2019 team by 11 points and the 2020 team winning by 16 points.

Just now, CaptainHook said:

I went to Lawrence Central...so I know a bit about Cathedral.  I just find it interesting that anyone would call this team (or last years) the best all time.  Way, way, way too early for that.  C'mon.

I never called this year or last years team the best Cathedral team of all-time, I simply stated that both were better than the 2019 team. I said the 2020 team statistically was the best offensive Cathedral team of all-time. 
 

I can’t help you with reading comprehension dude….sorry.

3 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

I was talking a McLaurin and Werner...who are you talking about?

Ekiyor will be in the NFL next year. Cathedral no doubt had some impressive individual talent (as well as good teams) in the time frame you’ve referenced, but none of those teams were as a deep and/or collectively strong as the last two Cathedral teams. I don’t know why you need to fight it?

2 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

Nope.  I'm just shocked anybody would compare the last two Cathedral teams to the best all time.  They weren't even the best in the state either year.

Nor were they in 2019 or 2015 teams with four high major recruits, two of them who will be playing on Sunday’s with one already there. Again, what is your freaking end game here? You asked a question, you got the same unanimous answer three different times from three different posters in a matter of five minutes. Don’t like? Well I don’t really give a sh*t. Move on.

Just now, BTF said:

I don't have any idea who is better. I just remember in 2019 there was a lot of talk about how good the Irish were. 

Cathedral was very good in 2019, again I’m missing where its been said they weren’t??

1 minute ago, BTF said:

Wasn't there a lot of talk in 2019 how great Cathedral was until they lost to New Pal?

They were a good team, who has said otherwise? They weren’t better than either the 2020 or 2021 teams. 

Just now, CaptainHook said:

Hah!  Nope.  Just funny the statements you are making about the last two years.  Laughable really (you proved my point with 2015 comparison).

The 2021 team would have beaten the 2015 team by multiple scores. Team was full of great individual talent but doesn’t have anywhere near the depth the 2021 team has. 

Just now, CaptainHook said:

Just because you dominate a watered down pandemic-year, doesn't necessarily make you the best all time Cathedral team.  C'mon.

 

just....no.

What’s your end game here? To get one of us to say New Pal beat the best Cathedral team of all-time (2019). You’re delusional if you think that’s going to happen.

1 minute ago, CaptainHook said:

2019 had 4 FBS seniors  (QB, OL, LB, S) and 2 junior (OL, WR)...I might be missing some.  Just because they didn't win a title doesn't mean they weren't a good team.

 

Nobody said 2019 wasn’t a good team. You asked if the 2019 team was better than the 2021 team. They weren’t, not by any measure. They weren’t better then the 2020 team either. The 2015 team had a QB commit to Maryland, an OL commit to Alabama, a RB commit to USC, and an OLB commit to Ohio State. That team wasn’t better than this years team and I have zero hesitation stating that. 

1 minute ago, CaptainHook said:

Hahahahahaha.  Ok

You asked a question. It was answered. Sorry if you don’t like it. There’s no valid argument to be made that suggest otherwise. 

7 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

No, I understand.  I meant there is no way that is the best all-time offensive team at Cathedral.  I listed the 2019 players that went FBS...am I missing someone from 2020 team?

Where the players went is really irrelevant. The 2020 Cathedral team owns just about every offensive single season record in school history. 

8 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:

meh....I'd say 2020 5A was pretty watered down.  No way 2020 team is best all time offensively.  No way.

I’m talking about best all-time at Cathedral. They put a hurting on a ton of non-5A schools in the regular season.