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3 minutes ago, JustRules said:

I think the reason the all-in only works with a random draw is the teams at the bottom are very unlikely to be competitive in the first round. With a random draw they have the hope they'll draw another team at the bottom so they have a competitive game.

That's literally the only reason why. The IHSAA can sit back and justify a 71-6 drubbing in a "postseason" game, citing the luck of the draw. They no longer can however if/when the sectionals are seeding appropriately. And be doing it the way they have been, they screw deserving teams in the process. It's a joke honestly. 

10 minutes ago, JQWL said:

Do those that believe a qualifier is or at least should be coming think that will apply to all IHSAA sports or just football?

Sectionals at the bare minimum should be seeded 1-8. There's not the same preparation or turn around time in basketball, baseball, volleyball, etc like there is with football. But I'm in favor of the regular season actually meaning something in regards to the postseason. The all-in, blind draw regardless of the sport is a neanderthal format the completely devalues the regular season. It's not done anywhere else but in Indiana. 

25 minutes ago, foxbat said:

That's conjecture.  You'd have an argument if Monrovia made it to the second round or even the sectional final and lost, but in essence, Monrovia did what everyone says you have to do to take that crown; they eventually played the best in that sectional and beat them.

As for seeding them, go ahead and seed them.  It's not costing Indiana anything extra as there is already that "10th game."  Whether it's guaranteed terminal or guaranteed "near terminal," it's still on the books.  You can certainly argue about whether the schools get a "take" of the 10th game, but that's relatively easy to work out.

Again, I've still not seen the reasoning that all-in only works with a random draw.  Perhaps it eventually leads to folks deciding to create a qualifier, but it's not fact that it only works with a random draw.  And maybe it does lead to a qualifier and maybe folks just say, "That's pretty much what we expect the first round to be and now it is pretty much guaranteed."  It just seems odd to me that there are statements of conjecture as fact and wanting to skip to the "foregone conclusion."  What does it hurt to seed first and see where it goes?

Trust me I'm all for seeding 1-8 and that's because I know the next step. As do you, as does the IHSAA, as does everybody else. That's precisely why it hasn't been implemented yet....the IHSAA can't let go of the blind draw because it effectively ends the all-in. 

2 minutes ago, foxbat said:

I've heard this said before as if it's fact, but I'm not seeing the logic behind it.  To be realistic, when we watch March Madness, very few folks expect that #16 seed to get to the Sweet 16 or, in many cases, even beyond the first round, yet everyone still watches and hopes and prays.  Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure there hasn't been a #16 seed in the history of the tourney that has declined to play because the odds are against them.  Yes, the #16s still had to make a "cut," but outside of FDU and UMBC, #1 vs. #16 is 150-2.  In essence, they likely weathered the play as well as #70 that didn't make the Dance cutoff would have or possibly even #100 or possibly even #120. 

That 16 seed still QUALIFIED for the postseason. They effectively earned that right to get blown out by a #1 seed.

3 minutes ago, foxbat said:

All in, with a seed basically does what others are saying, makes the regular season more important, but not live or die important, while still allowing for lots of chances for the Cinderella story to happen, even if the Prince picks Cinderella for a mosh pit song.  The 10th game basically becomes a first round elimination of, as some would call them, "posers" and then moves on to the things at hand.

Incidentally, answering the question "What's the difference between Monrovia's 2022 and 2020 2-7 regular seasons?" is the reason I'm an all-in fan.  Doesn't happen often, but it's enough to make me see it as having the 10th game of the season played as a tourney game.

2022 Monrovia is a statistical outlier. A complete anomaly. The only team in the 10 years I've tracked the postseason using Sagarin to seed the postseason that has beaten three top 32 teams en route to a sectional championship. That's it. And if I recall, that was a loaded sectional with a bunch of top 32 teams with Monrovia being just outside the top half at the conclusion of the regular season (34th or 35th). But because of the all-in, blind draw, the top 2 teams in that sectional played the first round making their path that much easier from the jump. Had they been seeded 1-8, not sure how Monrovia fares.

But that's beyond the point. Cinderella is a myth when it comes to Indiana high school football, 2022 Monrovia be damned. If you seeded each sectional 1-8 or 1-4 in 5A/6A every year, it would put an end to this nonsense. True seeding would effectively start the qualifier domino. 

20 minutes ago, JQWL said:

2 questions:

Cathedral is independent, correct? Would you feel different about a devalued regular season if they were in a conference?

Do you feel like the current system is holding Cathedral back from post-season success?

1. Yes they are independent. If Cathedral was in a conference, consistently won it, yet still received a tougher postseason draw than the teams who finished in the bottom half....yes I would feel that a  conference title devalues significantly. Winning your conference should be a reward, not a crutch come postseason. You'll never change my mind on that. 

2. Not at all. Prior to the success factor, Cathedral took full advantage of the archaic postseason format but consistently scheduling up and playing top end out of state competition. And why wouldn't they? Win, lose, or draw it doesn't impact your postseason chances or path. Cathedral won many state titles ending the regular season with 4 or 5 losses. In fact they won three straight state titles after finishing the regular season 4-5. Cathedral has since scaled back some of their regular season scheduling now that they play two classes up, but why wouldn't you play the best available competition under the current format?

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

But those other 49 state's athletic associations obviously don't care as much about the kids as the IHSAA does.  Right?

Pretty telling that the IHSAA has continuously decided to completely devalue a 9 week regular season for as long as they have. Glorified scrimmages.  

48 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Your perspective sounds like that of a fan. Nothing wrong with that, but I have never heard of a coach calling any regular season and exhibition. I've also never really heard of any energy in coaching circles to get the "all-in" approach changed.

All coaches adjust. Just like they did from the old cluster system. Just like they did for the success factor. Coaches will adjust once seeding is implemented down the road and then to ultimately a qualifier as that is inevitably the next step after seeding. The all-in cannot exist without the blind draw. 

50 minutes ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

But the regular season isn't even.  The ability to play anyone in the state when you want to isn't possible.  Teams are stuck playing the teams around them so whatever way you use to seed won't be fair.  In the NFL the schedule is chosen by the league but non-conference play in college football/basketball can be chosen by the schools involved.  They can travel and play who ever they want.  They can increase their Net or KenPom or whatever rating the selection committee is using.  High Schools can't do that.

What do you mean they can't seed? Are you telling me that conference basketball schedules are equal? There's 350 some teams and they're able to form a 68 team, end of the year tournament developing a rating system based on numerous factors. Every single other state in the country not named Indiana has some kind of rating or point system that ranks teams accordingly and used for seeding/inclusion for a qualifier. Indiana absolutely CAN do that, they simply choose not too. It's not rocket science if 49 other states have figured it out. 

31 minutes ago, Plymouthfan91 said:

At some point Brownsburg would have to beat #2 team in state to win the championship.  Why not play it first when everyone is healthy.  Win that game and play the winner of the 2-7 teams, which should be a break before your thrid round game.  I don't see the difference of when you play another good team or when you play a "bad" team.  You have to win them all to win a championship.

Why didn’t the Chiefs and the 49ers play the first round of the playoffs? Why don’t we have UConn and Purdue play the first round of the NCAA Tournament this year?

Because in doing so, you have to readily admit that the regular doesn’t matter. No other sport at any level of competition outside the postseason tournaments the IHSAA puts on, treat the regular season in that light. 

Just now, Daniel_Bragg said:

I found Massey Ratings to be quite accurate this past football year.  Their score predictions were also very accurate.

Basically, there are several ratings systems that have proven to be reliable barometers, but we just keep pretending like these things don't exist.

Massey Ratings Description

Agreed. The rating method used to cut the field in half at the conclusion of the regular season AFTER a 10th regular season game is added should be the least of the concerns. There' multiple, reliable ones out there that a multitude of other states use every single year. 

3 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

They aren't, at all. Maybe from a fan's perspective? Idk hard to see where you're coming from with any of this, or have any energy towards some teams not getting in the tourney and that being a good thing for the sport. 

It's definitely meaningful--- how do you think we get prepared for the tourney? There, that refuted your alleged "fact"..... lol 

You're confusing sentimental feeling with real tangible meaning. Everyone loves to beat a rival, never disagreed with that, but your record and subsequent play during the first 9 weeks has ZERO real tangible meaning. 0-9 or 9-0 It.Literally.Doesn't.Matter. You're in the playoffs no matter what and your draw is defined by nothing more than a ping pong ball. You will NEVER be able to refute this under the current format no matter how hard you puff your chest.

And with your second paragraph you've literally just described a glorified 2.5 month long exhibition season. 

9 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Who's handing out trophies now? 

Why play the regular season? Well because it's fun? ... kids enjoy it? children create life-long experiences/memories? children learn a lot from their athletic experience? I could list the reasons for a while. 

There is no one being cheated. 

Who cares whether they play 3 weeks earlier? Again, semantics.  

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I can't actually believe I am reading people say a football game is meaningless. Go watch Columbus East/North play--- tell me how meaningless it is. Brownstown/Seymour. Lawrenceburg East Central. Every Evansville game lol 

Meaningless if you aren't a competitor, I guess. Man, that's a tough sell... games are meaningless because everyone gets into a state tourney? That's wild and sort of soft, not going to lie. 

Lol.

You can still have a fun 9 or 10 game regular season all while not being entitled to a postseason game. Novel concept I know. It's done in every other state in America. 

And yes regular season games under the current format are in fact meaningless. Whether you go 9-0 and 0-9, your postseason fate is sealed before the season even starts by virtue of the all-in format and your draw is literally determined by a ping pong ball. Literally nothing that happens in weeks 1-9 has a single bearing on the postseason. They are in fact meaningless and how it relates to the overall course of the season. A literal fact that cannot be refuted. 

Just now, btownqbcoach1 said:

That doesn't even match up. I said seed the sectionals. My god it's HS football, not college or the pros. None of these teams are getting cheated. 

Ben Davis and Brownsburg are 8 mins apart.. I mean, of course, they play a lot in the sectional? 

Why should a postseason qualifier be limited to college and pro's? Literally every other state in America has a qualifier for their high school postseason format. Hell, 20 years ago back in my day you had to qualify for the CYO playoffs as early as 4th grade, they didn't just hand out trophies to everyone. 

And you absolutely are cheating teams when you don't value or recognize their regular season accomplishments. Why play the regular season in the first place if nothing is taken into consideration after the fact? 

As far as Ben Davis and Brownsburg being 8 minutes apart? Who cares. Cut 6A South in half, seed them 1-8 and this game is played in Mid-November like it should be. 

6 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

It would depend on the criteria used for a qualifier, and I am not sure I have seen one presented here on the GID that I like or honestly even fully understand.

 

A rating formula that accounts for W-L record, Opponent W-L record, SOS, and opponent SOS which includes out of state competition. It's essentially what CalPreps uses. Decide if you want to incorporate margin of victory or not, you can always cap it too.

https://calpreps.com/ratings.htm

6 minutes ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

In your opinion, in my opinion every kid that plays HS football should get to play in the sectional. I don't really see any watered-downness. Seems like semantics to me, honestly. To each their own, but I see no way it's going to change. 

A system that allows 0-9 North Newton to play in the postseason falls at the expense of two teams like Brownsburg and Ben Davis playing each other in the 1st round is the very definition of watered-down. It should never happen in a format where the regular season actually has real meaning. 

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

So you are ok with conference memberships in football being a possible victim of a postseason qualification process?

Why would that matter? If you're in an all 4A conference and go 2-8 in the regular season against 4A competition you likely aren't nor should you qualify for the postseason. If you're a 2A school playing in a predominantly 4A-6A conference and go .500 you're still likely one of the top half 2A teams.

I'm not sure why you would think conference memberships would fall apart? Raw W-L record would almost never be the sole criteria used in a qualifier and a 4A school looking to game the system by joining a 1A/2A conference would likely suffer the consequences. 

5 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Agreed.  I just worry that such a qualification process will change how schools look at a conference title, because now playing those same 6-7 conference schools every season may reduce your chance to qualify for a postseason berth, based on whatever algorithm is used.  This could have the very real chance of schools dropping conference memberships, at least in football.   

 

How can anyone look at a conference title under the current format and say it means a thing? There are literally teams every year who win their conference and get a harder playoff draw than a team who finishes dead last. It doesn't make any sense. I've never seen at any other level of athletic competition where winning you conference/league/division/etc doesn't give you the best possible outcome to succeed in the postseason over your peers. 

1 minute ago, Muda69 said:

I don't know.  For most programs a state title is very much realistically out of their grasp while a conference championship can be a  much more achievable goal to strive for.   

What about qualifying for the postseason? Would certainly spice up the regular season for those team who don’t have a shot at a state or conference title.

3 minutes ago, Daniel_Bragg said:

Well now we're having two different conversations.  The Sectionals should have been seeded a long time ago.  In 2024, it's embarrassing really, that the IHSAA continues to play dumb on this issue.

Seeding the sectionals is the next logical step to a qualifier. How many straight years of Ben Davis beating Avon by 40-50 points on one side of the bracket and Brownsburg beating Pike by 40-50 points on the other side does it take for common sense to prevail and say it’s pointless to call these first round games the “postseason”?

The all-in can only exist with the blind draw. It’s the only way to justify blowouts against teams who have no business playing in a postseason tournament to begin with. And it’s usually at the expense of a top team getting taken out early by another top team. It’s laughable.

6 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

Conference titles?

Back in my day we had 10-game regular seasons and liked it!

 

Brownsburg went undefeated in the toughest conference in the state yet drew a road playoff game against the #2 team in the state, in the first round no less.

Should tell you everything you need to know about the value of a conference championship under the current format. 2-7 Avon who finished dead last in said conference and also a 4 TD loser to Brownsburg drew another 2-7 team IN THE SAME SECTIONAL.

Make it make sense.

3 hours ago, JQWL said:

It always amazes me on a forum that should be for promoting football in Indiana, the amount of people on this forum that either want to eliminate teams completely or eliminate teams from playing games. There is nothing wrong with the all-in. Kids get very few football games to play in their entire lives and once it's done, it's done. Let's not try and minimize the experience just so fans can feel like it "means more."

How does proposing a qualifier equal eliminating teams from playing games? In a proposed qualifier that eliminates half the field at the conclusion of the regular season with an added 10th game, every team is guaranteed the same number of games as the old system. Nothing changes other than the amount of unnecessary blowouts in the opening round of the playoffs from teams who have no business playing in the postseason to begin with. 

4 hours ago, btownqbcoach1 said:

Do you even have an example of a team losing every game by 50 points? 

I'm still failing to see what you gain, the regular season always matters, it literally prepares you for the tourney.

But the bottom line---- Every kid should be able to play in the sectional and that's not going to change, no real sense in entertaining the idea.  

North Newton went 0-9 in the regular season last year. Average margin of defeat was 50 points on the head. Shut out in 5 of 9 regular season games. Lost 71-6 in opening round of sectionals likely at the expense of a North Judson/Pioneer first round match-up that pitted at the time two top 15 Sagarin teams in 1A against each other.

Why should every kid be able to play in a sectional game? A postseason berth should be earned, not the other way around. Every team making the postseason under the guise of the blind draw and really screwing with dynamicity and the competitiveness of the tournament has never really made sense to me. It's a watered down tournament.  

The all-in only works under the mirage of the blind draw. Take away the blind draw and the need to allow every team into the postseason after being sold on some fairy tale dream of a new season disappears. 

1 hour ago, scarab527 said:

Seeding is the first step in the removal of the all-in. A couple years of complete first round blowouts where one team has to travel 1 hour+ will have people ready for a qualifier. The all-in only makes sense with the random draw. 

Agreed. Been saying this for years. It’s the only reason why seeding hasn’t been implemented. And that’s to delay the inevitable.

5 hours ago, Punttheball said:

 

Nah, that's not my point.  I would be ok if we went to 32 teams in a class and stayed with 6 classes.  I think it would be better to put a 10th game into play and give the revenue to the schools instead of the IHSAA.  But you can twist it anyway you want.  

Are 100 something schools just going to drop football then? How can you go to six 32 team classes given the number of participating schools?

On 2/15/2024 at 10:47 AM, qbcoach13 said:

8 Class System. Week 1 starts on current scrimmage week. Not all teams have to start week 1. Rolling bye weeks to cut down on number of official crews needed every week.  Cuts down on enrollment gaps. 

8A
1	Carmel	5200
2	Ben Davis	4567
3	Warren Central	3748
4	Fishers	3664
5	North Central (Indpls.)	3616
6	Penn	3480
7	Avon	3476
8	Hamilton Southeastern	3442
9	Franklin Central	3362
10	Brownsburg	3297
11	Noblesville	3208
12	Pike	3192
13	Elkhart	3166
14	Crown Point	2978
15	Lake Central	2961
16	Center Grove	2893
7A
1	Lawrence North	2817
2	Westfield	2789
3	Carroll (Fort Wayne)	2569
4	Indianapolis Arsenal Tech	2500
5	Homestead	2408
6	Lawrence Central	2404
7	Southport	2368
8	Perry Meridian	2359
9	Zionsville	2309
10	Columbus North	2267
11	Portage	2170
12	Harrison (West Lafayette)	2169
13	Fort Wayne Northrop	2158
14	Jeffersonville	2141
15	Fort Wayne Snider	1915
16	Indianapolis Cathedral	1172
6A
1	Valparaiso	2140
2	Warsaw	2108
3	Whiteland	2074
4	South Bend Adams	2062
5	Decatur Central	2050
6	Merrillville	2050
7	Lafayette Jefferson	2034
8	Goshen	2006
9	Chesterton	1980
10	Castle	1965
11	Hammond Central	1923
12	Floyd Central	1823
13	New Albany	1814
14	LaPorte	1812
15	McCutcheon	1786
16	Plainfield	1773
17	Evansville North	1751
18	Concord	1730
19	Anderson	1722
20	Seymour	1719
21	Bloomington South	1681
22	Terre Haute South	1609
23	Franklin Community	1590
24	Bloomington North	1589
25	Hammond Morton	1534
26	Michigan City	1520
27	Columbus East	1518
28	Munster	1514
29	Terre Haute North	1467
30	Kokomo	1465
31	Fort Wayne North Side	1460
32	East Central	1241
5A
1	Fort Wayne South Side	1459
2	Mt Vernon (Fortville)	1455
3	Greenfield-Central	1430
4	Mishawaka	1422
5	Fort Wayne Wayne	1416
6	Mooresville	1398
7	Northridge	1393
8	Huntington North	1382
9	Evansville Reitz	1378
10	Pendleton Heights	1353
11	Muncie Central	1332
12	Richmond	1320
13	Martinsville	1315
14	Hobart	1298
15	South Bend Riley	1298
16	Evansville Harrison	1293
17	Bedford-North Lawrence	1242
18	Logansport	1226
19	Greenwood	1211
20	New Palestine	1209
21	Indianapolis Crispus Attucks	1170
22	Jennings County	1169
23	Columbia City	1162
24	Indianapolis Shortridge	1159
25	Evansville Central	1131
26	Shelbyville	1093
27	Jasper	1092
28	Indianapolis Roncalli	1082
29	New Haven	1068
30	Plymouth	1054
31	Marion	1045
32	DeKalb	1044
4A
1	Lebanon	1033
2	East Chicago Central	1009
3	Gary West Side	995
4	East Noble	989
5	Kankakee Valley	989
6	Lowell	985
7	Highland	977
8	New Prairie	970
9	Silver Creek	943
10	Connersville	930
11	Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger	917
12	Frankfort	901
13	Leo	900
14	Wawasee	895
15	Northview	894
16	Beech Grove	892
17	South Bend Washington	886
18	Boonville	884
19	NorthWood	869
20	Evansville Bosse	863
21	Charlestown	854
22	South Bend Saint Joseph	849
23	Culver Academies	832
24	Brebeuf Jesuit	829
25	New Castle	824
26	Danville	820
27	Hanover Central	817
28	Yorktown	812
29	Washington	810
30	Guerin Catholic	800
31	Jay County	800
32	Indianapolis Bishop Chatard	730

3A
1	Delta	798
2	Western	791
3	Mississinewa	783
4	Gibson Southern	771
5	Edgewood	761
6	Madison	760
7	Corydon Central	754
8	West Lafayette	750
9	Norwell	745
10	Angola	741
11	Mishawaka Marian	735
12	Lawrenceburg	726
13	Scottsburg	726
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18	Batesville	670
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22	Owen Valley	650
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24	South Dearborn	645
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26	Indian Creek	636
27	Heritage Hills	635
28	John Glenn	633
29	North Harrison	629
30	Fort Wayne Concordia	623
31	Evansville Memorial	617
32	Hammond Bishop Noll	617
33	Indianapolis Washington	617
34	Heritage	616
35	Calumet	611
36	Bellmont	610
37	Tri-West	606
38	Maconaquah	604
39	Princeton	600
40	Peru	588
41	Purdue Polytechnic	578
42	Southridge	576
43	Mount Vernon (Posey)	574
44	Speedway	571
45	Fairfield	570
46	River Forest	567
47	Garrett	556
48	Northwestern	554
49	Cascade	546
50	Tippecanoe Valley	543
51	Lakeland	540
52	Jimtown	538
53	Oak Hill	538
54	Fort Wayne Bishop Luers	532
55	Frankton	531
56	Evansville Mater Dei	520
57	Knox	520
58	West Vigo	518
59	Woodlan	518
60	Benton Central	513
61	North Montgomery	513
62	Western Boone	513
2A
1	Centerville	512
2	Bluffton	507
3	Heritage Christian	507
4	Monrovia	503
5	Sullivan	503
6	Eastbrook	501
7	Eastern (Greentown)	499
8	Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter	498
9	Greencastle	495
10	Salem	494
11	Wabash	492
12	Blackford	490
13	Brown County	488
14	Manchester	475
15	Pike Central	474
16	Rochester	473
17	Bremen	471
18	Brownstown Central	469
19	Alexandria	468
20	South Vermillion	468
21	Triton Central	468
22	Boone Grove	466
23	Lapel	466
24	Switzerland County	464
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26	Tipton	454
27	Southmont	453
28	Indianapolis Scecina	448
29	Rensselaer Central	447
30	North Posey	442
31	North Putnam	432
32	Mitchell	430
33	Northeastern	423
34	Whiting	422
35	Prairie Heights	421
36	Park Tudor	421
37	Christel House Manual	420
38	Delphi	417
39	Wheeler	417
40	Elwood	410
41	Winchester	408
42	Adams Central	408
43	Tell City	403
44	Shenandoah	400
45	Paoli	396
46	Lake Station Edison	391
47	Union County	391
48	Eastern (Pekin)	389
49	Lewis Cass	389
50	Whitko	389
51	Linton-Stockton	387
52	Seeger	386
53	Central Noble	385
54	Clarksville	385
55	Eastside	384
56	Covenant Christian (Indpls.)	383
57	Crawford County	379
58	Churubusco	378
59	Eastern Hancock	377
60	Perry Central	377
61	Lafayette Central Catholic	302
62	Indianapolis Lutheran	267
1a
1	LaVille	373
2	Providence	371
3	Taylor	366
4	South Putnam	363
5	Winamac	360
6	South Adams	357
7	Parke Heritage	354
8	Forest Park	353
9	Hagerstown	352
10	South Spencer	352
11	Eastern Greene	351
12	North Knox	349
13	Madison-Grant	336
14	Sheridan	336
15	Clinton Prairie	327
16	Carroll (Flora)	321
17	Riverton Parke	320
18	North Newton	319
19	South Central (Union Mills)	318
20	Knightstown	316
21	Milan	315
22	North Decatur	314
23	North Judson	308
24	Monroe Central	301
25	Northfield	296
26	Fountain Central	289
27	Anderson Prep Academy	288
28	Pioneer	286
29	Tecumseh	286
30	Cloverdale	283
31	Fremont	283
32	Covington	281
33	Bowman Academy	277
34	West Washington	277
35	Triton	274
36	North Daviess	273
37	Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian	270
38	Clinton Central	268
39	Springs Valley	266
40	South Decatur	265
41	North White	264
42	North Miami	263
43	Southwood	263
44	North Central (Farmersburg)	257
45	Tri	256
46	Southern Wells	252
47	Wes-Del	248
48	Culver	246
49	Union City	244
50	Caston	241
51	South Newton	241
52	Cambridge City Lincoln	234
53	Tri Central	232
54	Edinburgh	227
55	Greenwood Christian	222
56	Tri-County	220
57	North Vermillion	218
58	West Central	209
59	Indianapolis Tindley	202
60	Frontier	180
61	Attica	160

I'd argue there's too many classes to begin with. Make the top 32 enrollment schools 5A and the bottom 32 enrollment schools 1A and then divide the remaining schools into 3 classes.