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15 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:
That was the 2020 team.
2020 and 2021 team are both significantly better than the 2019 team. The 2022 class has 40+ seniors and many of them contributing this year contributed as sophomores.
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2 minutes ago, CaptainHook said:
How would you compare them to the 2019 team?
A lot better.
A lot of Cathedral’s starting D played a bunch as sophomores on the 2019 team.
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1 hour ago, Slobberknocker said:
I impressed Temptation you had your own thread created for you and now you have your own GID troll following you around.
Lol.
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18 minutes ago, temptation said:
Eh, I'll take top 4...
Bet if enough of us pulled our weight you'd get knocked down a peg or two. I'll do my due diligence.
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19 minutes ago, temptation said:
You are trying too hard…no one is laughing.
That perfectly sums your GID posting history.
But moving along, I prefer this thread stay open.
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Cathedral "should" win by 3-4 TD's but the competitive advantage of playing on grass doesn't exist in this game unfortunately. We all know that Cathedral just loves to sling the ball around the field in wet and muddy conditions. Ideal conditions for that style of play if you ask me.
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It's on turf so obviously Decatur Central has a chance.
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14 hours ago, southend said:
I’m of the belief that Indiana was the same last year as they are this year. No significant fall off in my eyes.QB problems, a few linemen hurt during season, not a very good running attack, a few defensive back injuries. The difference isn’t in Indiana , it’s the competition that has changed significantly from last year.
This ,with the fact that while Allen has been working to improve the quality of recruits, they do not get four and five star recruits not un like Purdue. This is critical for The Hoosiers to keep their heads above water. A little peak last year a little valley this year. But let’s let the year play out and hopefully it doesn’t just kill recruiting.Huh?
IU has gotten absolutely NOTHING out of the QB position this year. Zilch.
Penix was all-B10 last year and pushed the ball down field at will. IU is likely flirting with a .500 record right now (and two wins over top 10 teams) with even semi-competent QB play this year, that’s how bad it’s been over the course of the season.
Defensively IU is about the same as last year in terms of what they give up a game, but they aren’t creating turnovers like they were last year. Doesn’t help that the offense is constantly putting the defense in a bad position.
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25 minutes ago, Slobberknocker said:
Not surprising to me that the topic of field conditions is still happening since as of yesterday, October was the fourth wettest month in Indianapolis history and I am guessing the rest of state is the same or worst.
And guess what field with what user continuously gets dragged through the mud (no pun intended)?
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5 minutes ago, temptation said:
You’ll never convince me that Arlington is in worse shape right now than it was two weeks ago.
Lol.
You been out of town the last 3 weeks or does your moms basement just not have windows?
I most have missed all your posts about Arlington’s field the three other times they played there.
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20 minutes ago, scarab527 said:
I mean passing 14 times a game when you’ve won each game by an average of 3TDs+ and are generally only playing half the game is kind of a lot for hs. But more importantly they have the ability to be balanced. That’s what I’m talking about. If their backs were ever to the wall and they needed to pass, they could count on Jackson and those receivers. And the ability to pass also let’s them take advantage of any matchups they like in the secondary. This is what I mean when I say they have balance. Those are two attributes championship teams have. They’re just so good they haven’t really needed to show those attributes much this year lol.
Sure, they have the ability to throw the ball when/if needed, but you'll never see CG come out and throw the ball 25-30 times unless it's absolutely out of necessity. That's not who they are and not how they game plan. They are a power running team who has a D1 QB capable of pushing the ball down field when necessary. When your top 3 rushers all average over 5 yards a carry, you don't need to throw the football or have a balanced offensive attack, it's why Center Grove has run the ball on more than 70% of their offensive plays this year.
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17 minutes ago, scarab527 said:
How many of those runs have been after the game is out of reach and they’re just trying to eat the clock?
Probably a lot of them, but I would not call Center Grove a balanced offensive team. They are a run first team who can throw the ball when needed. Jackson has thrown the ball 126 times in 9 games. That isn't a lot.
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18 minutes ago, scarab527 said:
15 years ago… and CG has a D1 QB and good receivers, they’re most explosive plays in the state game last year were all passes. Again, not saying you gotta pass every down… balance is key
Wouldn't say Center Grove is balanced. 335 of their 470 offensive plays (assuming MaxPreps is accurate) have been running plays. Guessing if Jackson wasn't a D1 QB capable of pushing the ball downfield that number would be greater. If Center Grove didn't attempt a forward pass for the rest of the year they'd still win every game by 3+ TDs. Center Grove passes out of luxury, not because they have too.
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25 minutes ago, scarab527 said:
How many teams have won 6A/5A only running the football? Yeah you can win doing that at the lower levels but when it comes to big boy football you need to be able to have balance.
Warren did it 4 straight years running the Wing T in the mid 2000s and Center Grove today runs it a hell of a lot more than they throw.
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18 minutes ago, Moshiner1345 said:
I'm not sure either team was running that as their base offense. I'm also not sure what that has to do with my comment on how the field remained in fair playing condition given the crazy weather throughout the game.
If you have to ask why the field of a multi-billion dollar organization held up better than that of a high school who rents a former IPS field I'm not sure you'd understand even if you were told.
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3 hours ago, Muda69 said:
The Sectional 22 game of Chatard at Frankfort really shouldn't even be played
I concur. A 2-6 team has no business being in the postseason but that's for a different thread.
3 hours ago, Muda69 said:Frankfort is a "4A" school in name only.
Incorrect. They're 4A due to enrollment as are the other 60-some teams in 4A other than the teams bumped up due to the success factor.
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On 10/17/2021 at 12:20 PM, temptation said:
Of course he should get “more time.” 2020 may have earned him a lifetime contract.
He essentially got a "lifetime" contract, it auto renews a year after each season.
On 10/17/2021 at 12:20 PM, temptation said:I was speaking from the perspective of what’s best for HIM. His name came up in quite a few job openings last year, most with a ceiling higher than IU,
Not going anywhere for awhile, part of his new contract calls for a $30 million buyout from both parties if he were to leave or be fired. It decreases to $15 million at the conclusion of next season.
Overhaul on the offensive coaching staff is imperative after this year. Keep McCullough but the OC/QB coach and offensive line coach need to be fired and they needed to be fired yesterday. IU is wasting a very good defense on inept offensive coaching.
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27 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:
Don’t have to go very far back in history to see what could have been solid series with local quality HS programs with Cathedral not last. Carmel, Ben Davis, Warren Central, Fishers, HSE, etc. Most of those programs more than held their own against the Irish. Why did they end? No clue…but they didn’t last.
Nice poke at Carmel btw.
Not a single one of those games were played at Arlington. Hell Cathedral played Fishers on a baseball diamond.
Troll harder.
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23 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:
Lol!!! I could care less if CG and Cathedral play in the future or not. As I’ve said to others, I have zero dogs in this fight. I’ll leave that to the admins. But there must be a reason why excellent programs in the state stop playing Cathedral.
Lol, who has stopped playing Cathedral? Roncalli? Yeah I would too if I lost ten in a row? Carmel after getting run on their home field last year? What does any of that have to do with the playing surface?
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36 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:
Cathedral hosted CG at Tech high school the last 2 times Cathedral was the home team in 2017 & 2019. Cathedral played on the field that was to their advantage. CG this season is the faster team. You saw what Wheat did in quagmire. Now put him, the DL and others on turf. I understand what Cathedral did…don’t blame them. Just accept it and move on. Good plan, it didn’t work.
Cathedral for the last two years has once again adopted Arlington as its “home field” now that it is no longer used by Arlington High School. Cathedral completely redid the field out of their own pocket. Stop acting like Cathedral saw Center Grove on the schedule, threw a dart that landed on Arlington, and decided to play the game there because it’s a natural surface. Every home game the last two years have been at Arlington and will be going forward rain, sleet, shine.
Don’t like the facility? Stay at home. Nobody at Cathedral gives a rats ass where you think they should and shouldn’t play their home games. If Center Grove has an issue playing at Arlington going forward, drop Cathedral from the schedule. It’s as simple as that.
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1 minute ago, temptation said:
Surely the athletic department has access to the same weather forecast as the rest of us.
I don’t know whether to commend your blind loyalty or just laugh at you.
That game was going to be played at Arlington regardless if it was 180 degrees or -180 degrees.
Why in the name of gamesmanship would Cathedral voluntarily give up a home game to go play on the “road” at the #9 team in the country’s home field? You need to be put on a word count until you actually pay money out of your pocket to post on here. You dumb down this board every single time you post and you’re a huge reason why so many long time posters no longer post here.
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8 minutes ago, temptation said:
Some things are uncontrollable…this wasn’t.
You’re right. I forgot Cathedral dictated when it rains and when it doesn’t.
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3 minutes ago, Grover said:
Completely agree.
Cathedral kicking a FG on 4th and 1 inside the 10 to make a one score game….a one score game is what gave Center Grove a light at the end of the tunnel. Wheats 70 yard TD run with 2 minutes left in the 3rd Quarter matched CG’s entire offensive output up until that point. It was one big play that completely flipped the game.
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21 minutes ago, temptation said:
You know you’ve won once it comes to name calling.
Won what?
Cathedral at Decatur Central (sectional 13 final)
in The Indiana High School Football Forum
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2019 was a good team. They’re nowhere close to being as good as the 2020 and 2021 teams however. Offensively the 2020 team is as good as any Cathedral team I’ve seen, likewise with this years team defensively. A lot of the guys on the 2019 team played on the 2020 and 2022 team.