FarmerFran

From a funding standpoint, how does the 8 man differ from 11 man? Same equipment/supply costs, still have to pay coaches, refs,etc. I would assume most of these schools have a field of some sort inside of their track, but who knows what upgrades or updates are needed.

Logistically, I just don't see how schools that have made the choice not to play 11 man football for years can make the financial commitment for 8 man when it clearly hasn't been important to them. Remember, expressing interest is not the same as actually signing up and playing.

17 minutes ago, dazed and confused said:

I’d like to see things return to normal but there are way to many DannEllenwoods running around spiking the numbers for this to happen. Just like football, we need a team effort to make gains on the virus.

DannEllenwoods or others as well?

1 Andrean

2 WeBo

3 Eastbrook

4 Mater Dei

5 Rensselaer

6 Luers

7 Boone Grove

8 Scecina

9 Pioneer

10 Linton

19 minutes ago, DT said:

Agree, this conference looks solid.  Pound for pound, maybe the best and most balanced in the state.  What happened to the West central program and why are they not a part of this group?

They were not competitive in the HNAC so fled back to the relatively  lower competition of the MWC.

2012 MWC 10-2

2013 MWC 8-4

2014 MWC 6-4

2015 HNAC 1-9

2016 HNAC 1-9

2017 HNAC 0-10

2018 MWC 4-6

2019 MWC 3-6

I wonder, with the emphasis on individual drink containers, if the IHSAA looks at having built in hydration timeouts during games especially early on in the heat.

My Preseason Rankings 

1. Pioneer

2. Laville

3. Knox

4. Judson

5. Winamac

6. Culver

7. Triton

8. Caston

Pioneer played here in a monsoon of a 1A semistate game in 2016. It had the best playing surface we played on all year. Compared to our dirt field we get to play on for every home game their field was immaculate. 

4 hours ago, Raven67 said:

I understand that some schools would have an issue, but majority of schools could fill a roster safely. I timmy plays baseball but wants to play football.. let him. Same the other way around. The only people that would have a problem with this are the over competitive adults and coaches that preach to kid that their sports is the "best". This is not a time to be like that. These kids are struggling with all of this, so why not let them play their sport when we come out of this. Just seems selfish to say it wouldn't be fair to baseball. I would be willing to bet that most schools would be able to field a football and baseball team, would some kids be getting playing time that normally wouldnt.. yep. But if thats what it takes to make a kid experience his senior year in sports. Im willing to go for it.

Class 1A-3A would not be able to field those numbers....

Nice view on RPO's from Sarkisian.

Get rid of the non-contact days at the beginning of the actual practice season. I hate going from limited contact in shoulder pads  and helmets in your competition days during the summer to helmets only to start the season.

Pioneer is looking for a week 5 Varsity opponent for the 2021 season. If interested please reach out to head coach Adam Berry at berrya@pioneer.k12.in.us

1 hour ago, Muda69 said:

And where are they now?  1-9 IIRC, just two years after reaching the state title game.  Just goes to show how that "once in a decade" class of "OMG! Athletes!"  make or break most government school teams, especially in the lower enrollment classes.  p/p schools with their inherent advantages,  like long established youth feeder programs,  make the dip in talent much less and much more manageable at the high school varsity level.

   

Bigger factor is probably having 2 different head coaches in 2 years due to some questionable administration choices. This is not the thread or place to argue this topic (has been done repeatedly elsewhere).

My prediction is Coach Nay and the Knights get it done. Past experience has no bearing on it in my opinion, with these kids being in Jr. High the last time they were there. I think the knights coaching and their ability to make adjustments on the fly will lead them to another blue ring.

3 Point Games

Indianpolis Chatard vs Heritage Hills

East Noble vs Evansville Memorial

6 Point Games

Lafayette Central Catholic vs Indianapolis Lutheran

Valparaiso vs New Palestine

Eastbrook vs Western Boone

Carmel v Center Grove

13 hours ago, DT said:

My point is simple.  Due to clear and obvious built in advantages, private schools should never be allowed to compete in the smallest class, regardless of enrollment

 

Very rare.  Fishers comes to mind.  

I’m too lazy to look but I believe eastern Greene made it in 1a after a handful of years in 1a. 

1 POINT GAMES

Merillville @ Carmel

Chatard @ Marian

Heritage Hills @ Danville

Western Boone @ Triton Central

West Washington @ Indianapolis Lutheran

Bloomington South @ New Pal

4 POINT GAMES

Ben Davis @ Center Grove

Fort Wayne Dwenger @ Valpo

Hobart @ East Noble

Mount Vernon Fortville @ Evansville Memorial

Andrean @ Eastbrook

Adams Central @ Lafayette Central Catholic

1 hour ago, Ben Mussolini said:

I've seen both Lutheran and Central Catholic play.  Lutheran is better.  This is not 2011.  This is 2019.  If Central Catholic gets past the Flying Jets, they will go back to Lafayette 5-1 at Lucas Oil Stadium. 

Hasn’t Lutheran been saying for the last 3+ years??

1 POINT GAMES

Floyd Central [9-2] at Bloomington South [7-4]

North Judson [7-4] at Lafayette Central Catholic [9-3]

South Adams [12-0] at Adams Central [11-1]

North Decatur [11-1] at West Washington [11-1]

3 POINT GAMES

Indianapolis Cathedral [9-2] at New Palestine [11-0]

Lewis Cass [11-1] at Andrean [9-3]

1 hour ago, foxbat said:

I would agree with this.  I'll post later on takeaways/observations, but just wanted to say that, for all of the talk of strength of schedule and team sizes, etc., I have to give props to Traders Point.  They dressed about 19-20 and may have had a low schedule strength ... as a matter of fact, their schedule strength was 310 out of the 321 teams listed on Sagarin and that's with #1 1A Indy Lutheran on their schedule.  None of that mattered in their play.  They were well-prepared and fairly well-disciplined in their execution.  They sent LCC to the locker room at half down 10-9.  Outside of Pioneer the last two seasons, the last time LCC went into a locker room down during the 1A tournament was all the way back in 2008 with Sheridan.  TPC played a good game, but halftime adjustments by LCC and just sheer getting worn down sealed their fate in this.  Outside of that, I think that they are a good team and I'd like to see them perhaps play a stronger schedule to perhaps get more notoriety as they tend to be overlooked.  Having seen them play with their numbers and schedule, I think other teams playing them might overlook them them at their own peril.  

 

Lcc will beat Judson next week, and it won’t be particularly close. 

3 POINTS EACH

LaVille @ Lewis Cass

Lafayette Central Catholic @ Traders Point Christian

Rensselaer @ Andrean

West Lafayette @ Chatard

Penn @ Warsaw

Westfield @ Carmel

Mississinewa @ Marion

Knox @ Calumet

Culver @ North Judson

Park Heritage @ North Vermillion

26 minutes ago, Wild Frogs said:

stick to soccer... ur predictions suck

I didn’t understand the run call on 4th down for winamac with a little over 4 minutes to go.  If you’re going for it that deep on your end and you need 8, why not pass? Kudos to Judson.

1 POINT GAMES

Cass @ Rochester

Clinton Prairie @ Lafayette Central Catholic

Tipton @ Eastbrook

North Newton @ Rensselaer

West Lafayette @ Guerin Catholic

3 POINT GAMES

Twin Lakes @ Knox

Western @ Lebanon

Warsaw @ Chesterton

Carmel @ HSE

Fishers @ Westfield

Avon @ Brownsburg

Boone Grove @ Andrean

4 POINT GAME

Lafayette Jeff @ Merillville

12 hours ago, Ultimate Warrior said:

My picks

Knox 28 Twin Lakes 14

LaVille 27 Bremen 6

Culver 42 SCUM 24

Winamac 24 NJ 22

 

What say you?

Knox

Lavillle

Culver

Judson

We got throttled by a more physically dominant team. No more no less. They wanted it more and took it. Eurit is a great player, but if you ask me the most important player on Cass is #30 Humphrey. We couldn’t block him at LB and he was dominant as a blocker at TE. He was a man among boys last night. 

Full credit to Cass and hopefully it opened some eyes for us of what it will take to be successful next year. 

16 hours ago, Radar36 said:

Inquiring minds are interested in the Concession Stand situation?  😂 Will Any special meal-type items (pork burgers or something) be available? 😂 

LC athletic booster will be doing a $5 Pork burger dinner (sandwich chips and drink i believe).

8 hours ago, AG said:

Well aware. I was defending the fact that he said Pioneer was screwed. 

 

Injuries were the reason that Pioneer lost, plain and simple. 

Injuries were not why we lost... Cass's execution when it mattered and Pioneer not making the needed adjustments early enough were the issue.