K9 you must really be drinkin the juice to believe the pups can beat this Mighty Trojan Machine. Say 9 or 10 deep? There is no doubt that EC will roll in with an army but that is not regular army, this group is like the special forces and the eleven they put on the field are the elite of the elite...Top Guns!!! You are correct they have done it before however this group of pups have a long way to go to be compared with the Big Dawgs of 2009 led by the Master Dawg Warden.