Pac-12, then 2, and now?

[Gipper]

Following the departures of basically the conference except for two schools, the raiding of the Mountain West has begun as Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and San Diego State.

 

Problem.   According to the NC 2 A, eight schools are needed for a conference.  The B1G is doing fine, thank you.

 

Solution: many, according to our friends at collegefootballnews.com

 

I call bs.  Adding schools for just basketball (Gonzaga and UConn to an extent) is ludicrous, and adding teams from the Dakotas won't pan out per Irishman as they like being in the national title hunt every year.  Just add Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and San Jose State and call it a day.

 

Problem solved (and San Dimas High School football rules).

[Bash Riprock]

35 minutes ago, Gipper said:

Following the departures of basically the conference except for two schools, the raiding of the Mountain West has begun as Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, and San Diego State.

 

Problem.   According to the NC 2 A, eight schools are needed for a conference.  The B1G is doing fine, thank you.

 

Solution: many, according to our friends at collegefootballnews.com

 

I call bs.  Adding schools for just basketball (Gonzaga and UConn to an extent) is ludicrous, and adding teams from the Dakotas won't pan out per Irishman as they like being in the national title hunt every year.  Just add Hawaii, Nevada, UNLV, New Mexico, New Mexico State, and San Jose State and call it a day.

 

Problem solved (and San Dimas High School football rules).

Not saying I disagree, but isn't this the existing Big East model for hoops?  Butler, Xavier, Creighton, Georgetown, St. Johns, Villanova, Marquette, DePaul, etc? Many of them have football programs, but they are smaller (most FCS) and compete in different conferences.  Before the mainly the ACC (also Big 10 and Big 12) raided the Big East, I remember when they used to have major football schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_(1979–2013)

Football expansion

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About a decade after the conference's inception, Big East members decided to become a major football conference and thus added five schools including Rutgers, Miami, Temple, Virginia Tech, and West Virginia – though only Miami would be offered full all-sports membership immediately. The inaugural Big East football season launched in 1991.^[10] West Virginia and Rutgers were offered admission to the Big East as full members starting in the 1995–96 academic year,^[11] and Notre Dame, committed to its football independence, was offered a non-football membership effective the same year.^[12] Virginia Tech would be forced to wait until 2000–01 for full admission,^[13] and Temple remained a football-only member until 2004, when it was voted out of the conference due to poor attendance figures, lack of playing success, and inadequate facilities.^[14]

[Gipper]

19 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Not saying I disagree, but isn't this the existing Big East model for hoops?  Butler, Xavier, Creighton, Georgetown, St. Johns, Villanova, Marquette, DePaul, etc? Many of them have football programs, but they are smaller (most FCS) and compete in different conferences.  Before the mainly the ACC (also Big 10 and Big 12) raided the Big East, I remember when they used to have major football schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_(1979–2013)

Football expansion

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About a decade after the conference's inception, Big East members decided to become a major football conference and thus added five schools including Rutgers, Miami, Temple, Virginia Tech, and West Virginia – though only Miami would be offered full all-sports membership immediately. The inaugural Big East football season launched in 1991.^[10] West Virginia and Rutgers were offered admission to the Big East as full members starting in the 1995–96 academic year,^[11] and Notre Dame, committed to its football independence, was offered a non-football membership effective the same year.^[12] Virginia Tech would be forced to wait until 2000–01 for full admission,^[13] and Temple remained a football-only member until 2004, when it was voted out of the conference due to poor attendance figures, lack of playing success, and inadequate facilities.^[14]

It's just weird.  I like that the Pac is sticking to a geographic format while a few other entities have gone beyond.  Although basketball is important (hey, I'm from Indiana), but having these teams get regularly destroyed by Gonzaga and UConn does very little (time to invoke DT) for competitive balance.

[Gipper]

I remember the days of the old WAC in the 70s and 80s--while BYU was dominant on the football field, basketball was another story.  One guy, Fennis Dembo from Wyoming, was a lot of fun to watch and when their arena was full, it was the 6th largest city in the state!

Yes, I nearly went to Wyoming...

 

[Irishman]

15 hours ago, Gipper said:

I remember the days of the old WAC in the 70s and 80s--while BYU was dominant on the football field, basketball was another story.  One guy, Fennis Dembo from Wyoming, was a lot of fun to watch and when their arena was full, it was the 6th largest city in the state!

Yes, I nearly went to Wyoming...

 

As a chaperone on a youth group trip to the Grand Tetons, we stayed one night on campus in Cheyenne. Beautiful campus with the mountains still in the distance as a backdrop. 

[Gipper]

2 hours ago, Irishman said:

As a chaperone on a youth group trip to the Grand Tetons, we stayed one night on campus in Cheyenne. Beautiful campus with the mountains still in the distance as a backdrop. 

Cheyenne is fabulous and hosts an awesome rodeo every slumber, but the campus is actually in Laramie.

 

Your trip to the Tetons sounds like it was a good one.  I remember going to places such as LA, Milwaukee, Orlando, and Washington, D. C.

As I think about it, the Cowboys would also be great for the Pac-12.  Natural rivalry with Colorado State.

[Bash Riprock]

3 hours ago, Irishman said:

As a chaperone on a youth group trip to the Grand Tetons, we stayed one night on campus in Cheyenne. Beautiful campus with the mountains still in the distance as a backdrop. 

Had an Indiana high school buddy to swim collegiately at the University of Wyoming.  He never came home...made his home and life in the west....even though he married an Indiana hometown girl.

1 hour ago, Gipper said:

Cheyenne is fabulous and hosts an awesome rodeo every slumber, but the campus is actually in Laramie.

 

Your trip to the Tetons sounds like it was a good one.  I remember going to places such as LA, Milwaukee, Orlando, and Washington, D. C.

As I think about it, the Cowboys would also be great for the Pac-12.  Natural rivalry with Colorado State.

Brought back some memories....years ago, I had a short-term work project in Casper Wyoming.  Loved to get the sports page and typically the front cover was rodeo.  7 on 7 football also got some attention as well, but  rodeo was king.

[Gipper]

8 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Had an Indiana high school buddy to swim collegiately at the University of Wyoming.  He never came home...made his home and life in the west....even though he married an Indiana hometown girl.

Brought back some memories....years ago, I had a short-term work project in Casper Wyoming.  Loved to get the sports page and typically the front cover was rodeo.  7 on 7 football also got some attention as well, but  rodeo was king.

Not much else to do in Wyo!!!