Top 25 - Pre-season

[23andCounting]

1.    Brownsburg

2.   Westfield

3.   Carmel

4.   Center Grove

5.   New Pal

6.   Cathedral

7.    Lawrence North

8.   Carroll

9.   Hamilton Southeastern

10.  Penn

11.  Crown Point

12.  Fishers

13.  Chatard

14.  Warren Central

15.  Decatur Central

16.  Dwenger

17.  Roncalli

18.  East Central

19.  Ben Davis

20.  Merrillville

21.  Franklin Central

22. Lafayette Jeff

23. Bloomington South

24. Lawrence Central

25. Avon

Honorable Mention: Andrean, Cascade, Concord, East Noble, Gibson Southern, Mishawaka, Zionsville

[Komets2727]

First thing I see is Dwenger at 16. Hmmm, seems a bit high, especially given a conversation  recently that we had when I praised Dwenger. Are these rankings based on last year or where you really believe these teams are this year? 

[psaboy]

Can't even throw in the once mighty Snider Panthers into Honorable Mention? Come on, throw em a bone 

[23andCounting]

24 minutes ago, Komets2727 said:

First thing I see is Dwenger at 16. Hmmm, seems a bit high, especially given a conversation  recently that we had when I praised Dwenger. Are these rankings based on last year or where you really believe these teams are this year? 

High school pre-season polls aren't easy. I imagine there will be a lot of movement in the next couple of weeks. I give a lot of credit to last seasons performance. I believe you're at the top until someone knocks you off. I took the coaches poll into consideration. And a little bit of gut based one what I'm hearing in social media. Trying to give an unbiased opinion. If @temptation ever shows up, he can have the poll back. I didn't want to see the Top 25 go away in his absence. 

[23andCounting]

26 minutes ago, psaboy said:

Can't even throw in the once mighty Snider Panthers into Honorable Mention? Come on, throw em a bone 

They fell off the radar last season. More of a "wait and see" kind of a team. 

[hhpatriot04]

No love for the Mighty Trojans of Chatard?

[23andCounting]

9 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:

No love for the Mighty Trojans of Chatard?

I've got them at #13.............ahead of some pretty darn good programs. Think they should be higher?

I think my big miss might have been Heritage Hills..............probably Honorable Mention consideration. The Top 25 is brutal. Lots of great programs in Indiana. 

Edited 6 hours ago by 23andCounting

[hhpatriot04]

4 hours ago, 23andCounting said:

I've got them at #13.............ahead of some pretty darn good programs. Think they should be higher?

I think my big miss might have been Heritage Hills..............probably Honorable Mention consideration. The Top 25 is brutal. Lots of great programs in Indiana. 

Oh, I missed Chatard at No. 13.

Patriots have a lot to prove after some big losses. I'd have them ranked someplace between 8-HM in 4A. Jasper and Reitz are going to want their revenge. I haven't heard how the scrimmage with Jasper went. 

[23andCounting]

38 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Oh, I missed Chatard at No. 13.

Patriots have a lot to prove after some big losses. I'd have them ranked someplace between 8-HM in 4A. Jasper and Reitz are going to want their revenge. I haven't heard how the scrimmage with Jasper went. 

This is the kind of feedback I need. It's difficult to keep track of of all teams around the state. If the talent is there, Todd Wilkerson seems to know how to get the most of it. But in small town, run on talent can by cyclical. 

[hhpatriot04]

4 minutes ago, 23andCounting said:

This is the kind of feedback I need. It's difficult to keep track of of all teams around the state. If the talent is there, Todd Wilkerson seems to know how to get the most of it. But in small town, run on talent can by cyclical. 

New coach, Kevin Tempel ... classmate of mine.

Tyce Winchell is a name to watch. QB/RB/DB and Micah Toler at WR.