BDGiant93

On 4/23/2024 at 12:38 PM, PDB26 said:

I'm certain the defense got through the game (physically) unscathed! Mentally––very, very scathed. I suppose you could argue we didn't have a single able-bodied player from the opening kickoff given the results.

We for sure had one unreported head injury on special teams––of course those were the dying days of the bell-ringing era.

I know that it was a different time back in the days when you would "see stars". I remember the old AD at Tech, Frank Craig, telling me about his first meeting with my father at Indiana Central back in the 50's. Apparently, my dad knocked him out cold in practice making a hit. He said that when he came to that my dad was standing over him saying, "Freshman, are you ok? You alright?" He said that always stuck with him that my dad was so concerned about him.

Football used to be different! Not saying it was better either. It's probably good that we pay attention to, you know, brain science.

On 4/22/2024 at 1:52 PM, BTF said:

The only thing slowing BD down is the grass. You get them in the perfect indoor environment, and it's lights out. I'll argue day and night that turf favors the faster team. I think Westfield would have suffered the same fate at Crown Point. I could be wrong, just my take. 

Hardly anyone in 6A plays on grass these days in Central Indiana. I'd have to go back and look to see the last time Ben Davis played a game on a grass field. It may have been when Terre Haute North and South were in the MIC.

On 4/17/2024 at 5:51 PM, temptation said:

I don’t think Westfield was on the level of BD, Brownsburg or CG.  But I still thought they were a tier above Crown Point.

I know it was a very small dataset, but you could see in the scrimmage that Westfield was going to have trouble against Ben Davis. They could not keep BD's defensive line out of their offensive backfield.

1 minute ago, Bobref said:

Depends on what’s being used to stir it. 💩

Ok, sir. You win the internet for today.

5 hours ago, CoachMack219 said:

He for sure has 3 accounts on there (based on all of the evidence/ posts). I think two of the accounts are in the current "hot topic" on that forum and even invited the 3rd (main account) to the party. After reading here and reading there, I think he's having a grand ole time "stirring up the boards." Lol

Sometimes it's fun to have the pot stirred.

On 4/13/2024 at 10:50 AM, BTF said:

Warsaw waxed one of 6A's better teams last year. 

Who?

21 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

That also mean the likes of Carmel may be in the 6000-7000 student realm by then as well.

 

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't see much room for Carmel to grow out much more. It's not like Zionsville, Noblesville, Westfield or Fishers/HSE. It's kind of locked in by those places.

1 hour ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

I think Ben Davis's gauntlet through the playoffs last year is what ended up putting them over on CP. BD took CP's best shots and still walked away with a 28 point win. 

Ben Davis was a really good football team last year, but Brownsburg or Center Grove could have won it all too. The Giants were just a little better/luckier on that particular night. It was going to be one of those three or even Cathedral in 6A. Respectfully, no one in the North was going to win State last year as good as CP was.

30 minutes ago, temptation said:

Oh, I know.  A harmless question, but there are no harmless questions with him.

I think we have found a rare moment of absolute, 100 percent, lock-step agreement!

1 hour ago, temptation said:

Please don't encourage him.

"footballmomma", lol.

I was just wondering what was considered Indy. 🤣

On 4/13/2024 at 3:19 PM, Footballmomma said:

Not to disagree but I think merrillville/Valpo are better than about half the Indy schools. I think if they had a weekly schedule with them people would be suprised to see them come out above .500. 

What are we defining as "Indy"?

On 4/9/2024 at 10:17 AM, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Well, I am bored here at work trying to keep myself awake at the moment. So, I have been trying to figure out who the 16 North Schools will be with some of the changes that have been made due to enrollment and success factor.

Warsaw went down and Snider moves up. Harrison has joined 6A and Cathedral remains in 6A as well. 

With Snider moving up, this could be an all Fort Wayne sectional. 

Sectional 1 could easily be Portage, Harrison, Lake Central and Crown Point.

Sectional 2, 3, and  4 are where some changes may come about. 

Possible outlook for Sectional 2: Penn, Elkhart, Carroll and Northrop 

Possible outlook for Sectional 3: Snider, Homestead, HSE and Fishers

Possible outlook for Sectional 4: Carmel, Westfield, Noblesville and  Maybe Zionsville. 

Penn and Elkhart make things muddy with them sitting in the middle of the state. If Valpo would have moved up We could have seen Valpo and Portage back in sectional 2. The Fort Wayne schools are almost interchangeable in regards to placement in either sectional 2 or 3. In Sectional 4 for me it is hard to know which schools will likely be labeled a Northern school since they are all so close. 

Ben Davis tends to be a tennis ball that gets bounced around. In 6A, the Giants have been paired with Avon, Brownsburg, Pike, Arsenal Tech, Perry Meridian, Southport, Lawrence North, Lawrence Central and Warren Central in Sectional. Personally, I think the Avon/Brownsburg/Pike configuration makes the most sense. Ben Davis has still never played Franklin Central even though they were paired in the same Sectional in 5A for a cycle.

The trophy says IHSAA (Year) Football Champions (Class)

Which is accurate. They are the state champion of that class. Are there some years the 6A State Champion might not be the overall State Champion/superior team? It's plausible. I think if you win your class, you earn the right to be called a State Champion.

Pete is a good person. He was a first-rate colleague in the short time he was here at Ben Davis. I hope he succeeds as the HC at Penn.

Good luck Coach Gilbert! Coach was a year behind me here at Ben Davis. I graduated in 93 and he graduated in 94.

After two games vs. out of state teams last year for Ben Davis...

14 hours ago, BTF said:

Love it. Go big or go home. 

Snider too!

20 minutes ago, WestfieldRocks said:

Westfield has another "cupcake" schedule 🙂

Opening game at Center Grove

Week 2 home against Carmel

Then that always easy HCC schedule

They also scrimmage some Ben Davis team. Never heard of them.

11 hours ago, BTF said:

Warren Central has high expectations again this year, so yeah, the 100th meeting with Ben Davis could be a dandy. Here's what I have out of the Northeast: 

Warren Central at Snider........Round 2

Hamilton Southeastern at Carroll........rubber match

Snider at Carroll........Carroll has that suburban Indy vibe. They've replaced Dwenger as Snider's fiercest competitor. 

Carroll at Center Grove........If you're going venture into Trojan country, might as well do it with a D1 quarterback. 

Leo at Luers...........4A Top 10 program takes on 2A's best. 

I like that Carroll is taking on Indy Metro teams. 

That's awesome! Congratulations to the Irish.

Looks like a lot of schools are posting their schedules for 2024. What games are you looking forward to on your school's schedule?

For Ben Davis, after having six home games last year, they drop to four in 2024. The Giants pick up Cathedral in the Moeller slot, and Center Grove returns to the schedule. Looking forward to the 100th meeting of Ben Davis and Warren Central.

8/23-CATHEDRAL

8/30-at Avon

9/6-at Pike 

9/13-CENTER GROVE 

9/20-at Warren Central (100th Meeting)

9/27-LAWRENCE NORTH 

10/4-at Carmel 

10/10-LAWRENCE CENTRAL 

10/17-at North Central

All kicks at 7:00 pm

Coach Yeoman had the unenviable task of following a legend. It's not easy, but he did a fine job as the head coach of the Kingsmen. Congratulations on a great career, Coach. From all accounts, he's a first-rate human being. 

I can only imagine what some of those early Avon coaches like my dad and his players from the 1960's would have thought about this facility. Good gracious. That's a beautiful facility, and that's a great tidbit about the Valley. Something I never knew, and I've been a Westsider for all of my 48 years.

On 1/24/2024 at 10:55 AM, Coach_K said:

To @BDGiant93's point we are stable here in Corydon, but with the growth in the Louisville metro area, we are seeing growth push out towards us.  Charlestown is up to 4A, Floyd Central and New Albany are the 12th and 13th largest in 5A, while Jeffersonville is 6A.  We might see more student growth in Harrison County for the football schools, us and North Harrison.

Exactly. Great example. I'm sure we'll see those areas around major metros continue to see growth. We're seeing it around Indianapolis where, when I was a kid in the 90's, Avon and Brownsburg were small, country farm schools. Now, they're massive. When I taught at Franklin Central, we had 1,700 kids. That school is almost twice that size now 25 years later.

Indiana's population is not declining. It's showed stability or very small growth. Now, if you're talking community by community, then I get what you're saying. There are some areas where the population is declining and others where it's growing exponentially.