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2 hours ago, southend said:

I beg to differ, please explain to me how, for example, Spegal, would NOT, make Indiana State, Ball state or other college’s in the state, better.  
And if you want ,go ahead and “ knock yourself out”

Here is why this is an argument that will never get out of the loop it is in.  Charlie Spegal chose to attend Indiana University as a preferred walk-on, and God bless him for making the decision which seems best for him.  Because of this, we will never know if he could have gone to Indiana State, Ball State (who never offered him by the way).  There have been many young men that were GREAT players in high school who went on to stand and watch most of their games in college for a number of different reasons. There is as much evidence that college football below the FBS level in Indiana is as strong as it has EVER been, as there is that it is eroding. 

Read on Sunday that the biggest change over the last two weeks for the Purdue offense is that they have gone back to a previous staple, the MOTION offense.  I went back and watched Saturday's game again and it is extremely noticeable.  Far less standing around and great spacing, leads to smoother basketball, even late in the shot clock!  Hope this continues, as they have been really enjoyable to watch lately!  BOILER UP

11 hours ago, Arrow95 said:

Brock Combs is 18-9 in wrestling this year for Evansville Memorial. Brock finished 2nd at Regionals. He has to win two matches at Semi-State to make it to the state finals. First round at Semi state he has a freshman from Brown County who is 27-4. If he wins (which is very possible) he will face the winner of Bloomington North who is 33-0 or Avon who is 10-5. I've seen Brock wrestle and he is very athletic just very inexperienced. 

 

Brock played for Memorial's state championship football team and state runner up team. He had a career of 258 tackles, 57.5 tackles for loss, 34 sacks, 576 rushing yards as a senior with 7 td's. 

 

Is he playing in college? How is his brother doing? Isn't he playing somewhere?

Brock signed with Marian last week.  This is a great fit as he will be a GREAT player for the Knights.  His older brother Branson is likely a three/four year starter at WR for Southern Illinois.  He saw considerable time this season over the last four weeks on special teams.

Bump

247 Ranks the Boilers 7th in the BIG.  However, this class averages a full point per man better than Maryland who's composite is just one point higher with an extra six men in their class.  I would consider Purdue top six in the BIG.  Three consecutive classes top half of the BIG and Top 35 in the country.  Time for some better QB play and some wins!  BOILER UP!

I remember ... has been more than once.  Just waiting for them to get it passed!

Now, if we could just get them to allow the QB to throw the ball away when scrambling, I think we would be on to something!

Just now, DT said:

Allen has stated his intent to build a sub roster of PWO tackling dummies.  He is just starting.  You will see the impact at the small school level 3 to 5 years down the line.  

I disagree, however only time will tell.  Allen never said anything about tackling dummies.  He is trying to build a program which has never experienced a five year period of sustained success. He is taking a grassroots approach and, even as a black and gold bleeding Purdue fan, I appreciate his efforts.  FCS, DII, NAIA, and DIII football in Indiana are fine and will remain so!  But I guess we will find out.

16 hours ago, DT said:

Doubtful.  We are on a one way street of declining participation.  This is not a trend.  It's a seismic shift.  What is happening with Indiana small college football will not reverse this on going shift.  

1 hour ago, DT said:

Being a preferred walk on reminds me of what it must have been like for Benton Central players to go up against George Karlaftis.  

That is basically what a PWO is looking at   4 years as a tackling dummy for the scout team and a lifetime of orthopedic and arthritis pain

No thanks.  

What is happening with Indiana small college football?  Do they have smaller rosters, or are they bringing in smaller classes?  I tend to believe that neither of those are true.  And if they were true, a handful of PWO players at schools like IU and Purdue would be WAY down the list of reasons why.

A great number of PWO players actually do contribute at P5 schools on a regular basis.  Not a theory, but absolute fact.

21 minutes ago, southend said:

Participation Numbers don’t change. 

This is just not the case.  They absolutely do change.

16 minutes ago, southend said:

Pretty selfish, for the health of indiana smaller colleges. 
me ,me ,me-era is here. 

Once again, it is not Tom Allen's responsibility to monitor the success of Indiana small college football.  Furthermore, if IU continues to get better, one could argue that the popularity of football in this state would grow, and eventually attracting more players that could play small college football.  Therefore, in the future Tom Allen may in fact be having an extremely positive impact on small college football.

21 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

Are the following true statements?:

• The best NFL teams have the highest number of world class athletes
• The best DI teams of the highest number of NFL caliber players
• The best DII and NAIA teams of the highest number of D1 caliber players
• The best DIII teams of the highest number of DII and NAIA caliber players
• The best high school teams have the highest number of collegiate caliber players

The last statement might not actually be true, but the other statements almost assuredly are!  The last one has a lot to do with when you have someone like me that stands in the way of team success!😭😂

2 hours ago, DT said:

I can't help but come to the conclusion that this iU depth building PWO initiative, in the era of declining participation and contraction,  will undoubtedly have a deleterious effect on Hoosier state small college football

It's inevitable and unavoidable

There is also a potential economic impact 

Had Charlie Spegal accepted a full ride scholarship to Ball State, he may have become a vital cog that propelled the Cardinals deep into the college football playoffs

Now, that can't and won't happen

IU Bloomingtons "potential" gain becomes Muncies "real" loss

Allen has made it clear with the long term contract extension that he intends to be the next Bill Mallory at Indiana University.  As the "Godfather" of football in this state, he would be wise to be a caretaker at all levels, making the whole eventually even stronger

 

You mean if he had accepted a full scholarship that he was never offered? Because that makes perfect sense.  It has never been Tom Allen, Jeff Brohm, or any other BIG coach's job to look out for the small college football in their state.  They are paid to win, recruit players that they feel can help the program win, and offer scholarships to the best of those players. This PWO conversation sounds like some of you believe that they are just letting any high school jimmy or joe join their roster, and that is simply not the case.  Just win, Baby!  That is how the old saying goes, is it not?  And, I for one, believe that both Tom Allen and Jeff Brohm are doing it the right way!

Just now, DT said:

And the talent pool continues to diminsh

Iu allows lesser talented athletes to consume roster bandwidth

Indiana State , Butler, Depauw and others shop the high school clearance bin, taking kids who didn't even make All Conferen ce or All Area or All County

 

Quite frankly, this entire conversation is ridiculous.  If you were a casual fan and ventured into this conversation, you might think that IU now has like 50 PWOs or something.  This is not an issue worth debating.  Until one of the coaches from Marian, St. Francis, UINDY, Franklin, Hanover, or anywhere else comes into my office crying the blues about not having players to offer, I will not buy it.  There are plenty of kids, and plenty of schools for them to attend to play.  END OF STORY!

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Coach Ganaway will be great for Bosse. I truley believe that we have made some positive steps over the past five seasons, but it is time for a new vision. I am glad someone like Demarcus is coming in to take the program to the next level.

3 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

You think Sandy Searcy would come back from NFHS? 

One could hope, and that sounds like it is possible!

7 minutes ago, Lysander said:

Good point.  Maybe there is Hope.

Question regarding the new voting setup.  Does every imaginable coach on staff get a vote or is there some limit?  

Heck, I filmed some games years back, would I have had a vote?   Believe me, you wouldn’t want to give me a vote.

Every dues paying member of the IFCA has a vote.  So long as they have an individual email that has been submitted when registering.

4 hours ago, Lysander said:

Hopeless, given the environment.

Voters simply aren’t up to it regardless of intentions.  They will always default to the newspaper headlines and the easily displayed measurables.....which are only for the “skilled” positions.

That said, it’s not brain surgery.  Just look at the highest ranked college prospects...whatever position.

Easy peasy.  

That said, it will never happen.

I really believe that with the entirety of the IFCA membership voting for the award, there is now some possibility for there to be a non-skill player win the award.  Maybe it is just me wishing that people looked at the game from a standpoint of real value!  

Thought that some of you might enjoy these videos.  I had the pleasure of hanging out with Uche Nwaneri a handful of times one summer in West Lafayette.  Both terrific players and people, exemplified by the length of their playing careers and being among the most popular players in their locker rooms.  If you like these videos he also does some really good breakdown stuff on his Youtube channel.  Check him out!

Part 1:

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Part 3:

Every region of the IFCA nominates and votes for coaches to represent their region.

I had a recruiter from a DIII school in Indiana tell me, pretty adamantly, that Noblesville is a better job than Fishers.  I was quick to dispute him, but he was not about to back down.  He is familiar with both scenarios, and talked about the fact that, at Fishers, you are competing for players with HSE and Carmel.  While at Noblesville you may not have history on your side, but your kids are your kids (for the most part like any one horse town).  His biggest point was that there are some 8-900 youth in the feeder system.  If that is the case, that is incredible.  Someone set me straight!

Was not all that difficult after all.  Running 4.4 in the 40 yard dash is considered world class.  Since 2010 there have been 147 players drafted who run 4.4 or faster.  Of those 147, I counted 50 that are still on an NFL roster, but that number could actually be higher.  That means that approximately 2.7% of the players in the NFL are among the fastest sprinters in the world.  That is a pretty high number, IMO.  To me that means there are maybe some 25-30 guys that could potentially be Olympic sprinters  if they just trained for that!

2 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

Less than 1% of the entire NFL are world class sprinters/could compete in a 100 yard dash.

I'll make that bet all day of the week. 

That means there are around 18.5 world class sprinters in the NFL.  I would certainly take that bet with you.  World Record is 9.58 and the times in the 2016 Olympic finals ranged from 9.81-10.06, so world class means @ 10.5 and below.  I am going to figure this out today!  

22 hours ago, Footballking16 said:

Aren't you the same poster who said; "speed is speed"?

If you can't grasp that flat line, straight speed doesn't always equate to the football field, then I can't help you. If the key to success in football was getting the fastest guys in the world (you know the track guys) then you would see more world class sprinters on NFL rosters. Period.

Do you know how many world class (or near world class) sprinters are on NFL rosters?  I bet doing some research would have you retracting that statement.  There are several.  Speed is speed, and skill is skill.  Put the two of them in combination, and you get hall of fame guys like Rod Woodson. 

39 minutes ago, gonzoron said:

Do they still make Strohs and Sterling? Sterling was in Evansville, correct?

 

I think that they are both brewed by craft companies, but not completely sure.  Sterling was absolutely brewed in Evansville!  Who new something so great could come from river water!