Muda69

Yes, you make me chuckle as well with your stubborn adherence to the status quo. As long as it benefits Cathedral, of course. A p/p zealot to the core. Honestly that has yet to be determined. I'll let the mathematical whizzes and quants figure that out. I'm more of an idea man. ? Please elaborate.

Thought so. Just keep talking out the both sides of your mouth, decrying the evils of Sagarin on this thread while virtually extolling it's virtues in another.

Prove me wrong.

I only said Sagarin could be used for the initial slotting of teams into non-enrollment based classifications. I never said it would be the method going forward to determine what teams to promote and what teams to relegate.

Heh Heh. I understand. But the old law! FTA:

How much has been stolen and turned into joints? That appears to be one of the fears of government regulators.

Yes, it is a different sport. Here, you get a star.

Tell that to the real Indiana high school basketball tournament, pre-1997. Hmm, and think many here would have a problem with "champions" being the goal of high school sports. I've been told the opposite on this forum many times over the years. And the IHSAA is a voluntary organization. If a number of high school AD's don't like how they run the organization, then by all means form your own.

Again, that is your enrollment hangup, not mine. And nice dodge of the C-ville question. And you are assuming an all-in tournament format. That would mostly likely have to change as well, as discussed in a number of current threads on this forum.

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You don't know that. And you talking about South Adams or Adams Central? And on the flip side what business does a football program like Crawfordsville have being in this years's sectional 28? Talking about getting beat by 100 points, South Adams could probably beat C-ville, a '3A' school, by 100.

Yes. It is you who continue to wear your enrollment blinders, not I. Why do we seem to have no problem with Cathedral competing against the likes of Carmel, Ben Davis, and Warren Central, yet letting a South Adams, Pioneer, or LCC compete against the likes of West Lafayette, Heritage Hills, Chatard, etc. in a tournament setting is anathema?

Sure. What game?

You asked for the initial classification. I answered. Sure, your scenario could happen the initial year, but if we averaged the sagarin rating over say a 3-5 year period then those football playing schools with a strong established program would tend to be promoted. Your usual flash-in-the-pan, once-in-a-decade senior class of OMG! Athletes from a government school, not so much.

I thought open enrollment was the goose that laid the golden OMG! Athlete eggs? My initial proposal to initially classify teams outside of current enrollment? Easy: Sagarin: http://sagarin.com/sports/hsfsend.htm

You first have to completely disassociate classifications like '5A' and '2A' from enrollment. Under a true system of promotion/relegation enrollment has no bearing whatsoever. Then educate yourself with primers like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_and_relegation I'm currently drinking a Diet Mt. Dew. Want some?

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2019/10/16/hemp-set-skyrocket-indiana-but-comes-lots-risk/3843228002/ I hope hemp production is wildly successful here in Indiana, but fear the over-the-top "reefer madness" type of regulation will stunt and eventually kill it.

Nationalism is out of control. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-10-16/patt-morrison-kenneth-pomeranz-nba-china

Can't wait to get your learned opinion of the Frankfort @ Crawfordsville game.

Thank you for the clarification. So the strategy is to identify the OMG! Athletes by the time they are in the 8th grade then steer them to enroll in the correct 'football academy' as a 9th grader, therefore bypassing the long arm of the IHSAA. Exactly. Which is why a true system of promotion/relegation will work where jury-rigging the current enrollment-based classification system with thing like the success factor really don't.

If you believe this thread was made to openly mock high school football program then you are sorely mistaken. Which of these games/teams are you personally going to support this Friday?

No, it really doesn't it. And as others have stated, if we are going to have a 'success factor' shouldn't we then also have a 'failure factor' that bumps those programs not performing up to their expected enrollment down a class or two? After all with the current success factor isn't the current thinking that the higher enrollment classes offer generally tougher competition so therefore the smaller enrollment classes are generally weaker competition?

Then exactly are you saying IO? What does an 8th grader have to do with the IHSAA and athletic transfers?

So you are saying the vast majority of these transfers are happening as 8th graders in order to elude the long arm of the IHSAA? And what if little Johnny Football, who transferred from school X to school Y as an 8th grader primarily due to school Y's elite football program, is now in the 11th grade and isn't getting "the touches" his daddy things he should? Should he be able to transfer to school Z without any penalty from the IHSAA?

Yes, it is. Sure a heck of a lot better than the primarily enrollment based system we have now.