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    1A Sectional 45

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted · Edited by dazed and confused
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    8 hours ago, Donnie Baker said:

    I’m out of those sticker things. There shouldn’t be a limit! STATE LAW!

    Dam straight !

    8 hours ago, speaglefan said:

    😂. What’s up with sticker limit anyway?  

    ...and why can't you keep the ones you don't use and stockpile ?

    8 hours ago, gonzoron said:

    I dunno. I'm out too. Didn't think I had left that many. Maybe 5 a day?

     

    why can't I give you mine ? they are just sitting there.....

    and....why can't I use all 5(?) on one post if I like that post enuf ?

     

    7 hours ago, gonzoron said:

    A negative vote doesn't mean anything anymore. It just means someone didn't like what the poster wrote.  It doesn't deduct from your overall points since the day they hid the reputation count. 

    I thought I'd test this theory....

     

    edit.... I only get 2....how sad !

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    Tipton - Eastbrook

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    21 hours ago, djbowzz said:

    Hypothetical and a "What would you do" kind of situation.

    If your opponents QB of a high powered offense is also a starter on Defense, would you game plan to potentially run your offense towards that said player a little more often to try and wear the QB down so that maybe it would also effect the offense?

    If it were me, Yes.  He may be a stud, but the more you get hit the more you are wore down.  At least one rushing play if not more every series directly to the side that that player is on.  If he lines up on a receiver, that receiver is automatically audibled to run as far down the field as possible, passing or running play. 

    possibility that this could also backfire if attacking that direction and he/they stop Tipton early on too many drives then Tipton could find themselves in a hole to big to come back....especially with Eastbrooks time consuming drives !

    1A Sectional 45

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    19 hours ago, Tanka Jahari said:

    There is nothing wrong with that. When will the celebratory riverside fireworks show be taking place? If the Wildcats need a food vendor I will be happy to whip up a tasty batch of fart sandwiches!!!

    I hope you're using Flagulante's Citrus Celebration.... I love lemon !

    Postseason cancellations

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

     

    On 10/23/2020 at 11:27 AM, Muda69 said:

    For some teams, COVID-19 ends IHSAA playoffs before they begin: 'It's devastating.'

    https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2020/10/23/covid-19-indiana-high-school-football-soccer-volleyball-teams-playoffs-cut-short/3739035001/

    A hard lesson in the realities of life.  Sometimes it give you lemons.................

     

     

     

     

    On 10/23/2020 at 2:40 PM, DE said:

    Thank you for posting this Muda. 

    From my area, the link above, says Hammond Gavit. I was not aware of Gavit canceling their game vs. Hobart. I know Hammond Clark cancelled their game vs. River Forest as @Bobref posted. 

     

    On 10/23/2020 at 4:06 PM, Bobref said:

    I spoke with the referee on the crew assigned the Gavit - Hobart game 3 hours ago and he hadn’t been notified of any cancellation.

     

    Gavit/Hobart game DID take place.... looks like Matthew VanTryon from Indy Star needs to get his facts right !

     
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    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted · Edited by dazed and confused

    HC down to 4... Congrats toLCC, RC, Tipton and Western returning from spring break and bye.

    Also, congrats(and sorrow) to all the seniors that played their last high school game....so nice they got this season in !!!!

    Some interesting match ups this week....

    game capsules once again borrowed from Harrells....

    Western (8-1) at Lebanon (3-4)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Lebanon.
    COACHES: Alex Stewart, 28-13 in 4th year at Western, 38-23 in 6th year overall. Jeff Smock, 20-18 in 4th year at Lebanon.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Western, 66.77, 70th overall, 14th in 4A. Lebanon, 48.79, 151st overall, 37th in 4A.
    LAST OUTING: Western defeated Rensselaer Central, 49-42. Lebanon defeated Frankfort, 29-0.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Western 1-0; Lebanon 0-1.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Western 36-50. Lebanon 34-34.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Tied, 3-3
    LAST MEETING: Lebanon, 32-31, Nov. 1, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Western, 31-24.

     

    Rensselaer Central (6-4) at Wheeler (7-3)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm CT, Wheeler.
    COACHES: Chris Meeks, 174-89 in 22nd year at Rensselaer. Adam Hudak, 20-20 in 4th year at Wheeler, 26-36 in 6th year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Rensselaer, 56.31, 111th overall, 13th in 2A. Wheeler, 41.97, 175th overall, 28th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Rensselaer defeated Bowman Academy, 78-0. Wheeler defeated North Newton, 36-27.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Rensselaer 1-1; Wheeler 1-1.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Rensselaer 43-49. Wheeler 43-39.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Rensselaer, 7-2
    LAST MEETING: Rensselaer, 48-6, Oct. 25, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Rensselaer, 38-28.

     

    Eastbrook (9-1) at Tipton (7-2)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Tipton Stadium.
    COACHES: Jeff Adamson, 289-90 in 32nd year at Eastbrook. Aaron Tolle, 117-63 in 16th year at Tipton.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Eastbrook, 68.09, 67th overall, 4th in 2A. Tipton, 56.58, 110th overall, 12th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Eastbrook defeated Blackford, 55-8. Tipton defeated Elwood, 40-0.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Eastbrook 1-0; Tipton 2-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Eastbrook 39-54. Tipton 30-48.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Eastbrook, 1-0
    LAST MEETING: Eastbrook, 34-7, Nov. 1, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Eastbrook, 38-31.

     

    SATURDAY, OCT. 31
    Sagarin Ratings ©Jeff Sagarin
    SECTIONAL 42
    Lafayette Central Catholic (3-3) at Clinton Central (5-2)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Bulldog Stadium.
    COACHES: Brian Nay, 20-13 in 3rd year at Central Catholic. George Gilbert, 119-92 in 20th year at Clinton Central, 228-187 in 38th year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Central Catholic, 37.95, 189th overall, 16th in 1A. Clinton Central, 35.04, 204th overall, 22nd in 1A.
    LAST OUTING: Central Catholic defeated Frontier, 35-12. Clinton Central defeated North White, 39-7.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Central Catholic 1-0; Clinton Central 1-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Central Catholic 28-29. Clinton Central 38-30.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Central Catholic, 16-7
    LAST MEETING: Central Catholic, 40-6, Oct. 25, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Central Catholic, 31-28.

     

     

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    3A

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Purdue Pete said:

    North:

    I’d really like to see the Norwell / Concordia game happen.  17-14 game last year but was played in the slop.  Will be on turf this year and both teams brought pretty much everyone back.

    Not sure either can keep it close against Chatard but who knows.  Maybe the sectional 28 meat grinder will take something out of them.
     

    Marion has their ticket punched to semi state.

    Marion isn't 3A you must have meant Marian

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    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    Good Luck HCC teams !

    Borrowed game capsules from Harrells :

    Knox (5-4) at Benton Central (0-9)
    GAME TIME: 7:30 pm ET, Mallory Field.
    COACHES: Russ Radtke, 5-4 in 1st year at Knox, 373-144 in 44th year overall. Tyler Marsh, 0-9 in 1st year at Benton Central.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Knox, 53.62, 128th overall, 21st in 3A. Benton Central, 15.12, 275th overall, 60th in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: Knox defeated Caston, 46-8. Benton Central lost to Northwestern, 20-6.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Knox 47-28. Benton Central 42-33.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: No meetings.
    jh PREDICTION: Knox, 38-17.
    Hanover Central (7-2) at Twin Lakes (5-3)
    GAME TIME: 7:30 pm ET, The Reservation.
    COACHES: Brian Parker, 18-12 in 3rd year at Hanover. Kevin Sayler, 5-3 in 1st year at Twin Lakes, 22-17 in 4th year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Hanover, 54.55, 122nd overall, 19th in 3A. Twin Lakes, 45.43, 167th overall, 34th in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: Hanover defeated South Central (Union Mills), 48-0. Twin Lakes defeated Lewis Cass, 32-12.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Hanover 32-45. Twin Lakes 30-39.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Twin Lakes, 1-0
    LAST MEETING: Twin Lakes, 63-35, Oct. 25, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Hanover, 35-31.
    Northwestern (1-8) at Maconaquah (4-3)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Maconaquah.
    COACHES: Austen Robison, 2-26 in 3rd year at Northwestern, 15-44 in 6th year overall. Brad Purcell, 4-3 in 1st year at Maconaquah.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Maconaquah, 35.72, 205th overall, 42nd in 3A. Northwestern, 15.55, 272nd overall, 58th in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: Northwestern defeated Benton Central, 20-6. Maconaquah defeated Rochester, 29-28, OT.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Northwestern 35-40. Maconaquah 29-32.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Northwestern, 18-14
    LAST MEETING: Maconaquah, 26-21, Sep. 26, 2014.
    jh PREDICTION: Maconaquah, 31-21.
    SECTIONAL 28
    Indianapolis Chatard (7-1) at Hamilton Heights (4-5)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Husky Stadium.
    COACHES: Rob Doyle, 39-11 in 4th year at Bishop Chatard. Jon Kirschner, 8-21 in 3rd year at Hamilton Heights.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Bishop Chatard, 98.25, 6th overall, 1st in 3A. Hamilton Heights, 47.83, 157th overall, 31st in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: Bishop Chatard defeated Terre Haute North, 35-7. Hamilton Heights lost to West Lafayette, 40-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Bishop Chatard 41-22. Hamilton Heights 50-29.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Bishop Chatard, 5-0
    LAST MEETING: Bishop Chatard, 30-13, Nov. 24, 2012, state.
    jh PREDICTION: Bishop Chatard, 42-7.
    West Lafayette (8-1) at Guerin Catholic (3-4)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Guerin.
    COACHES: Shane Fry, 85-16 in 8th year at West Lafayette. Tom Dilley, 45-28 in 7th year at Guerin, 125-105 in 21st year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: West Lafayette, 76.99, 37th overall, 4th in 3A. Guerin, 64.71, 76th overall, 12th in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: West Lafayette defeated Hamilton Heights, 40-0. Guerin defeated Culver Academy, 24-14.
    VS. COMMON FOES: West Lafayette 1-0; Guerin 1-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: West Lafayette 34-42. Guerin 36-21.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: West Lafayette, 1-0
    LAST MEETING: West Lafayette, 34-31, Nov. 1, 2019, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: West Lafayette, 28-21.
    Bowman Academy (2-6) at Rensselaer Central (5-4)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm CT, Harrison Complex.
    COACHES: David Nelson, 26-52 in 8th year at Bowman. Chris Meeks, 173-89 in 22nd year at Rensselaer.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Rensselaer, 59.09, 105th overall, 14th in 2A. Bowman,-1.43, 310th overall, 60th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Bowman lost to River Forest, 53-0. Rensselaer lost to Western, 49-42.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Bowman 18-32. Rensselaer 40-37.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Rensselaer, 5-0
    LAST MEETING: Rensselaer, 60-14, Oct. 31, 2014, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Rensselaer, 52-7.
    SECTIONAL 34
    LaVille (5-1) at Lewis Cass (2-7)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Owens Stadium.
    COACHES: Will Hostrawser, 60-27 in 8th year at LaVille. Clayton Mannering, 2-7 in 1st year at Cass.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: LaVille, 55.58, 118th overall, 17th in 2A. Cass, 31.32, 222nd overall, 38th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: LaVille defeated Culver, 42-6. Cass lost to Twin Lakes, 32-12.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: LaVille 25-27. Cass 48-30.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Cass, 5-0
    LAST MEETING: Cass, 56-21, Nov. 8, 2019, sectional.

    jh PREDICTION: LaVille, 28-17.

    Tipton (6-2) at Elwood (1-7)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Panther Stadium.
    COACHES: Aaron Tolle, 116-63 in 16th year at Tipton. Terry Riggs, 1-7 in 1st year at Elwood.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Tipton, 59.68, 101st overall, 11th in 2A. Elwood, 12.59, 280th overall, 53rd in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Tipton defeated Lafayette Central Catholic, 49-13. Elwood lost to Mississinewa, 56-6.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Tipton 26-36. Elwood 34-34.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Tipton, 31-5
    LAST MEETING: Tipton, 62-0, Aug. 28, 2020.
    jh PREDICTION: Tipton, 49-21.
    Frontier (5-3) at Lafayette Central Catholic (2-3)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, LaRocca Field.
    COACHES: Troy Burgess, 12-6 in 2nd year at Frontier, 120-82 in 19th year overall. Brian Nay, 19-13 in 3rd year at Central Catholic.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Central Catholic, 41.31, 181st overall, 17th in 1A. Frontier, 19.75, 263rd overall, 37th in 1A.
    LAST OUTING: Frontier lost to West Central, 24-6. Central Catholic lost to Tipton, 49-13.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Frontier 23-33. Central Catholic 21-22.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Central Catholic, 5-2
    LAST MEETING: Central Catholic, 55-7, Oct. 21, 2016, sectional.
    jh PREDICTION: Central Catholic, 35-21.

    Sectional 36

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

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    On 10/22/2020 at 12:19 AM, XStar said:

    I don't think they've been unable to throw the past couple seasons as much as they've been unwilling to call passing plays when they need to.  They looked good throwing the ball in the first half of the 2018 state championship game and not surprisingly they led at half of that game.  Then they went inexplicably went away from it in the 2nd half. 

    In that game, they were 7 for 8 in passing for 113 yards.  In the first half, they were 6-6 for 97 yards.  In the third quarter, 1-1 for 16 yards.  In the fourth quarter, 0-1.  Meanwhile in the 2nd half of that game they ran the ball 24 times for only 58 yards.

    In 2019, they did not even attempt a pass in the 2nd half of the state title game.  They were down 21-0 at halftime and did not throw the ball once in the 2nd half.

    I'm not interested in what they are doing against Elwood or up 4 touchdowns against Madison Grant.  The proof will be when they are in a competitive game where the other team can hold their own in the trenches and you have to be a little creative to move the ball consistently.  I've heard that this new quarterback from Western is really good.  I just hope his coaches allow him to show it when things are tight and they don't get overly conservative in their play calling when it matters.  I really think that, and trying to play 2 QB's all year, cost them the title in 2018.  Hopefully they've learned.  I think 2A is wide open and if they are really better than last season, coaches included, then they will finally get their blue ring.  

    From the Delta game earlier this saeson, EB QB had a really nice pass in 3rd qtr that led to TD after their running game was having trouble. Only tried 1 pass after that and I kept wondering why they stuck to the running game when they needed to catch up. Maybe Coach wasn't worried about the win and wanted to test running plays against a better defense knowing the rest of the CIC wouldn't test them ?

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    Hoosier Conference

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    7 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

    I think moving to fewest points allowed was in theory to keep teams from running up scores if they knew tie breaker was point differential.   Just one thought, 

    But as stated, neither her nor there.    

     

     

    While I believe in theory that is the best way if all games between conference foes are factored in, but if only using games between the 3 vying for title then think they wouldn't be ruuning up score as games are too competitive then point spread mite be best. Just another thought !

    Hoosier Conference

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted · Edited by dazed and confused

    6 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

    From my understanding; 

    West Lafayette was fornatue to play BC, RCHS, TL, and LCC:   So common opponent there:   WL won all those games:   Then it went to Points Allowed to WL.   

     

    Sep. 11   Lafayette Central Catholic 1A © W 47 14    
    Sep. 18 at Rensselaer Central 2A © W 27 21 2OT  
    Sep. 25   Benton Central 3A © W 65 6    
                   
    Oct. 9 at Twin Lakes 3A © W 49 14

     

    RCHS 27 

    LCC  47

    TL 49

    BC didn't matter score as they had zero wins in West, so was slotted to face NW

     

    Thanks ! Benton Central was the other common opponent of those 3 and wondered if those games also factored in, which would have evened things out for LCC and TL if used points scored, and then went to something else.

    Thanks again !

    Are seniors allowed to play JV

    in The Indiana High School Football Forum

    Posted

    26 minutes ago, Muda69 said:

    What do you do with the 12th grade student, probably a so-so athlete at best,  who decides to play football for the first time?  This may even be the first time this young man has decided to try extracurricular athletics. 

    Is he quietly persuaded to quit the team during summer workouts and practices?   Does he ride the pine on the varsity squad for the entire season?  Or is he allowed to play in junior varsity games?

     

    Exactly....what do you do ???

     

     

    Well looky here...

    15 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

    We have a young man, who has never played orgainzied ball before, he is a SR, he started playing JV games this year for us, then got caught up to speed on the game and what we do, and worked is way onto our special teams and has filled in at times during Varsity games.   

    I would reckon that without him playing JV at all, he would not have been able to make those strides to get ready for Friday nights. 

    Love it !!!

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    Hoosier Conference

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    game capsules from Harrells

     

    West Lafayette (7-1) at Hamilton Heights (4-4)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Husky Stadium.
    COACHES: Shane Fry, 84-16 in 8th year at West Lafayette. Jon Kirschner, 8-20 in 3rd year at Hamilton Heights.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: West Lafayette, 74.11, 46th overall, 6th in 3A. Hamilton Heights, 46.07, 166th overall, 31st in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: West Lafayette defeated Twin Lakes, 49-14. Hamilton Heights defeated Lewis Cass, 28-19.
    VS. COMMON FOES: West Lafayette 2-0; Hamilton Heights 2-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: West Lafayette 28-31. Hamilton Heights 36-26.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: West Lafayette, 8-2
    LAST MEETING: West Lafayette, 49-14, Sep. 4, 2020.
    jh PREDICTION: West Lafayette, 38-21.
    Rensselaer Central (5-3) at Western (7-1)
    GAME TIME: 7:30 pm ET, Western.
    COACHES: Chris Meeks, 173-88 in 22nd year at Rensselaer. Alex Stewart, 27-13 in 4th year at Western, 37-23 in 6th year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Western, 66.36, 70th overall, 15th in 4A. Rensselaer, 56.14, 118th overall, 17th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Rensselaer defeated Northwestern, 56-0. Western defeated Tipton, 42-28.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Rensselaer 2-0; Western 2-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Rensselaer 28-34. Western 23-38.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Western, 3-2
    LAST MEETING: Western, 33-14, Sep. 4, 2020.
    jh PREDICTION: Western, 31-24.
    Lafayette Central Catholic (2-2) at Tipton (5-2)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Tipton Stadium.
    COACHES: Brian Nay, 19-12 in 3rd year at Central Catholic. Aaron Tolle, 115-63 in 16th year at Tipton.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Tipton, 57.34, 109th overall, 12th in 2A. Central Catholic, 41.83, 181st overall, 15th in 1A.
    LAST OUTING: Central Catholic defeated Benton Central, 28-12. Tipton lost to Western, 42-28.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Central Catholic 1-0; Tipton 1-0.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Central Catholic 12-19. Tipton 22-28.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Central Catholic, 8-4
    LAST MEETING: Tipton, 41-21, Sep. 18, 2020.
    jh PREDICTION: Tipton, 35-24.
    Twin Lakes (4-3) at Lewis Cass (2-6)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Owens Stadium.
    COACHES: Kevin Sayler, 4-3 in 1st year at Twin Lakes, 21-17 in 4th year overall. Clayton Mannering, 2-6 in 1st year at Cass.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Twin Lakes, 42.32, 178th overall, 34th in 3A. Cass, 31.96, 219th overall, 35th in 2A.
    LAST OUTING: Twin Lakes lost to West Lafayette, 49-14. Cass lost to Hamilton Heights, 28-19.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Twin Lakes 2-2; Cass 2-2.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Twin Lakes 23-30. Cass 38-25.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Cass, 3-0
    LAST MEETING: Cass, 35-26, Oct. 13, 2017.
    jh PREDICTION: Twin Lakes, 28-24.
    Benton Central (0-8) at Northwestern (0-8)
    GAME TIME: 7 pm ET, Tiger Field.
    COACHES: Tyler Marsh, 0-8 in 1st year at Benton Central. Austen Robison, 1-26 in 3rd year at Northwestern, 14-44 in 6th year overall.
    SAGARIN RATINGS: Benton Central, 17.26, 269th overall, 58th in 3A. Northwestern, 10.66, 284th overall, 62nd in 3A.
    LAST OUTING: Benton Central lost to Lafayette Central Catholic, 28-12. Northwestern lost to Rensselaer Central, 56-0.
    VS. COMMON FOES: Benton Central 0-5; Northwestern 0-5.
    OPPONENTS' RECORDS: Benton Central 37-21. Northwestern 31-27.
    SERIES LAST 35 YEARS: Northwestern, 4-2
    LAST MEETING: Benton Central, 27-19, Oct. 18, 2019.
    jh PREDICTION: Benton Central, 28-24.
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