Don't mean to change the subject too much, but what does everyone think of the overall strength of the conference this year? I read early in the year that the conference was going to be down from years past but I don't know that I believe it is. It seems the addition of a very solid Jasper team and Vincennes Lincoln has toughened everyone's schedule. I think you could've argued a few years ago that with 2 non conference games and the bottom of the conference a decent SIAC team could have 5 easy wins. I don't that's the case this year. Even for a team like Castle, who may be in third or fourth in the conference, there aren't 5 easy wins. It will be interesting to see how the playoffs shake out in a few weeks.