CoachGallogly

Who had two days in the pool of "when will DT return"? I was way off I said three weeks.

"Stop, don't, come back."- Willy Wonka See you in three weeks when you return from your most recent self-imposed banishment.

Games run all day Friday and Saturday for those that need their football fix this weekend. All games are televised on Fox Sports Network (Detroit). Streamable as well, enjoy.

The issue isn't do you count virtual students in your enrollment....the answer is yes BTW, the issue is many families (in the thousands) didn't send their kid to any school this year in any form. This occurred in higher rates in urban and very rural areas with lack of access to internet can be an issue. It'll be interesting to see how the IHSAA handles this.

I was correct on my info for GRCC they went 6-4, and lost first round. That Andrean team was the year after the state championship team, but still went 14-1 and was runner up.

You are correct, thank you for that my apologies.

To put that game in context however, that was a REALLY good Andrean team who beat West Lafayette by 50 that year, and that GRCC team went 6-4 and was a first round playoff exit. So that West Lafaytte semifinal team probably losses to that first round playoff losing GRCC team by a couple scores. (GRCC that year would've been a 4A school compared to WL and Andrean being 3A though)

I can speak a little to this topic having coached a decade in both Indiana and Michigan. I like many of you may have played a game or two against teams from other states and watched film as well. Here are a few quick observations. Ohio: I believe is above the rest of the group by a sizeable margin. The difference in Ohio is the depth in my opinion, there are more teams of high caliber at each level, it's not top heavy or bottom heavy. Kentucky: I believe is the bottom of this list. Population, and lack of a mega city anywhere play into this. Still many very good programs in Kentucky, but depth is lacking in all classes. Illinois: the largest state by population, but also the most unique with the only true mega city among these states. Illinois boasts very few second tier sized cities lumping most of the larger schools, and most smaller private schools in one geographical region. Illinois has quality teams in each class, and posses a few Mega schools, but many of the mega schools (for whatever reason) are actually sub par compared to those a step down in size. The sheer size of the state gives it quite a bit of depth, but also quite a few poor programs. Michigan: Michigan is unique because it posses no mega schools in the whole state, and only a handful in the 2,000's. For a state nearly twice the population of Indiana, Indiana's top 10 schools would all be top 2 or 3 in Michigan in size. What Michigan does have however are about twice as many football playing schools as Indiana. Michigan has 2 eight man divisions, and 3 11 man divisions all within the size range of Indiana's 1A. That's a lot of small school football. Michigan has a lot of depth in programs but the top really lacks "big programs" the way Illinois, Ohio, Indiana do. There are a lot of "kinda big schools" the smallest school in Michgan's biggest class is only roughly 500 kids bigger than the biggest school in the 3rd biggest class. Or another way of saying Michigan has about 200 schools that would be really big 4A, or 5A schools in Indiana.....that and in the small classes is where Michigan's strength lies. Indiana: Indiana's real weakness is depth in classes, being a state with half the population of Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio that makes sense. Where Indiana's strength is at the top division with quite a good number of Mega schools, and the top end schools in each class tend to be quite comparable to other states. As we've seen the Indiana mega schools (and private school powers) can play with any midwestern states, it's after you get out of the top 5-10 in each class does the gap to the neighboring states start to win out. It's more a population thing than anything. If I was ranking I'd say 1. Ohio 2. Illinois/Michigan 2a. Indiana 5. Kentucky I know that's cheating but it really depends if you value depth over top end results.

If you are missing HS football you are in luck, Michigan which has had it's tourney started and shut down multiple times, is back on (for now) and will be playing regional round games this saturday. If you need a football fix you can stream games. All state finals games will be televised for those that have the correct cable package. Even if you don't know the schools....it's high school football in january, can't complain.

Is Park Tudor really 200 students??

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Isn't it easier to win in 5A than 6A? Wouldn't more bigger 5A teams in the north increase the chance of a state title? If they don't have a shot in 5A, why would you think they have a shot in 6A?

That simply isn't true. Kids from neighboring districts can enroll at SA. The bigger issues in this comparison is urban v. rural. Urban has a MAJOR advantage.

The fact that he argues against a one-size fits all enrollment system but then calls for a one-size fits all multiplier he's arguing for and against the same thing. I understand why some public school people like the multiplier angle....it feels good to stick it to the private schools, but it's too simple and doesn't accomplish anything close to equity which is the whole point of class system, to put "like schools" together. The reality is a simple multiplier is a elementary caliber solution. However, the IFCA success factor, while probably not a "calculus level" solution it's at least an Algebra II level solution.

Glad to see you came around Lysander 🙂 Hope you are doing well my friend.