CoachGallogly

Is watching live the only option or could I watch them on tape delay for the same price? Also $20 per day or for all 6 games?

Thanks for the help!

So no regular TV only through the App purchase?

Yes please I’m not seeing where it will be on TV.

I don’t think coaches are worrying about how a score will impact their Sagarin number. But with that said it was explained to me that beating a team by too much will actually hurt your Sagarin number because the team you beat will drop by a lot and thus weaken your SOS. So the goal is to beat the spread by not by too much if you want to worry about your rating.

For the record the IFCA’s plan was a 4-year cycle. The IHSAA shaved it down to 2….largely because they wanted to have their fingerprints on the change. To MUDA’s point in the beginning of the thread I suggested a relegation concept during the committee phase, it had virtually no support among the other coaches there. My suggestion was if you didn’t win a sectional game in a four year span you got bumped down. Coaches were worried about that concept for two reasons 1) might lead to getting fired, one thing to lose another to be tagged as a team that is forced down. 2) afraid some schools might tank when they knew a better class was coming up.

Roncalli isn’t referencing the confederacy….but Roncalli…the Rebel Pope.

Im thinking Harrison and McC are going to have to go north this time around.

Soccer might be growing in popularity, but I’m not sure American pro soccer really is. Everyone I talk to that follows soccer always talks about European teams.

Calpreps has IMG as 5 TD favorites.

O’Shea had a three year stretch early on that was the best since the mid 90’s. NC has a history of state champ coaches who struggle when arriving.

When we were in the process of creating the current format I suggested this. It didn’t get much traction from the IHSAA. They wanted the 32 5A 32 6A setup. But it’s been 10 years now. Maybe they’d be up for a change.

GID rule of thumb #1 If DT makes a "proclamation" it will last less time than it takes a hungry man to eat his lunch....because he intends to do the opposite.

Yes I agree more schools over 3000 exist, but I think that helps my argument more than yours competition is getting tighter now, the "middle" of 6A is closer to the top now than before.

Maybe, but we both know that's not going to happen, so.......

Agreed it's not just a "work harder" solution here. That may be the case for some of these schools, and may not I'm not going down that path. But it does require significant district investment to achieve that goal. That is missing in many many school districts. Take Brownsburg as an example. 10 years ago you'd never put them in the neighborhood of BD. But the district has taken many steps from that list I gave earlier to improve the competitiveness of the district. They may not have the complete investments that BD or Carmel has for their program, but it appears they are putting in great strides to match it sooner rather than later. Brownsburg has done enough to compete with BD. Even to the point of a two game winning streak against them. This can be done at Lafayette Jeff, this can be done at Noblesville, this can be done at Homestead etc. It's not easy and it's not over night but it can be done. CG is the model, New Pal is the model, it can be replicated. It's not about kids working harder alone, let's not simplify it to that. The CG kids could bust their tails but if they didn't have the other pieces in place they'd have minor success. To the dropping 8-16 teams to 5A, we've been down this road before a decade ago. Then the bottom of the top class was nearly 3 times smaller than the bigger schools, and over 4 times to the outliers. 6A was created to address the issue. A 32 team 6A allowed for the bottom to be less than the 2x of the bigger schools. That was a problem, it was addressed. This "problem" is not in the same neighborhood of having a school of 1300 play at Warren Central, it's just not.

You're correct I didn't add in this year, as I looked at the historical page. Their "dominance" is less than I mentioned. Agreed which is why the list I made included a plethora of factors needed. You know what also won't give Tech a state title...moving them to 5A, which they still wouldn't do under a scenario that drops the bottom 8 or bottom 16.

Actually it's entirely about those three schools, because if they weren't winning at a high level this thread wouldn't exist.

Investment in high school football is incredibly measurable. From facility investment (weight room, AV capabilities), parent organizations, head coach salary and daily responsibilities, caliber of head coach, size of assistant coaching staff, funding of assistant coaching staff, caliber of assistant coaches, non conference scheduling, youth program organization and development, weight training courses in the daily school schedule All of these are crucial if you are doing all of these things at an elite level, then enrollment is like dumping gas on the fire, but if you are not doing all these things, and doing them well then enrollment is like dumping gas down a drain pipe

Yes I'm sure that's the case at every high school. That's the beauty of the playoffs only 6 winners out of over 300 schools. No that's statistics.

Center Grove has made it to the final four 10 of the last 11 years. It wasn't that long ago LC was in the finals 2 out of 3 years, and just whooping people. They are both in the bottom half of 6A. North Central, Lake Central, Avon, Noblesville, Crown Point, all have zero trips in the past 10 years, but are in the top 1/2 of 6A. Enrollment is not the overriding factor for each of their success or lack of success individually. There are many reasons schools succeed. Enrollment is one of those factors, but it is not the only factor, and often it's not even #1 on the list. The 3 mega outliers certainly have an extra advantage due to their size, nobody would argue that. But North Central is 98% of the size of Warren Central, and you have two very very different scenarios. It doesn't appear you are following me on this. Cutting 8 teams or 16 teams from 6A doesn't reduce the chances of the big 3 from winning. You're argument reeks of self-interest if you deny that fact.

Do you believe Tech and Perry have invested in competing at the same level as those other 3? If yes then we have issues, if not then we don't.

9/14 state finalists in 6A history have been Carmel, Warren, or BD. That's roughly 2/3 of the participants are from those 3 schools. Shrinking 6A to 24 teams, or 16 teams doesn't take BD, Carmel, and Warren down. Investing in your programs like BD, Carmel, and Warren does.

Yes the IHSAA does have a history of it. The issue in 6A doesn't seem to do with the Indy schools, it has more to do with the non-Indy schools. The reality is there needs to be some revamping of the scheduling mechanics outside of Indy for the bigger schools. The depth of schedules just don't prepare them the same way.

I'd wager the 1A schools would disagree. 🙂