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Could be but my assumption is that points earned by Chatard at the 3A level shouldn't count towards 4A success.

Thanks. That certainly addresses the issue. "Next year, the IHSAA will resume reclassification of team sports using certified enrollment figures from the 2021-22 school year for the next two-year cycle (2022-23, 2023-24). Tournament Success Factor points from the 2020-21 and 2021-22 tournament results will be applied toward that next two-year cycle." So if I'm interpreting this correctly, a school that moved up due to Success Factor just for this year like Lafayette Central Catholic must at least win regional in 2021 to remain in 2A because they would have no SF points in 2A from the 2020 season when they were in 1A.

I get that teams from other parts of the state want to keep the Indy area teams away as long as they can, but the unwillingness to seed past the sectional level pretty much blows the use of the "fairness" argument out of the water. Let's look at the 2A rankings right now. 7 of the 9 top teams in the polls are in the North. Eastbrook and Tipton are both in the top 5 and are in the same sectional. Luers and Eastside are in the top 5 and in the same sectional. Why should those four teams have half the opportunity as Linton-Stockton just because there aren't any other top teams in their area? Do those extra game that mean so much stop meaning as much outside of a 25 mile radius? As I said earlier, seeding sectionals doesn't usually ultimately change who gets a trophy . Seeding an entire class absolutely would.

And if you seed it incorrectly you could be screwing another team out of an extra game they should've played. Blind draw is impartial. It doesn't determine anything based on preconceived notions of who the best team is. And for those that are arguing for seeding, why seed it at the sectional level? If you're looking for fair, I'll tell you what's not fair. Its for certain teams that might be one of the top 5 teams in their class to not have an opportunity to go to state, or even win a sectional, because they are always up against Chatard, or Cathedral or someone in their sectional. Or for teams from one half of the state to get a much easier path to LOS because their class is loaded in the other half of the state. So if we're going for "fair", let's not do it half-way. Ultimately, the bigger injustice is that Brebeuf and West Lafayette might be the top two teams in 3A this year but only one of them will win their sectional and possibly get denied 3-5 extra games. Let's make sure that they can't play one another until at least regional or semistate.

I'm not a proponent of seeding the tournament. I don't really think it's worth it just to prevent an early-round matchup of the favorites. So one team may potentially play 1 or 2 fewer games. Still doesn't change who gets the trophy. Who makes the determination who is the top team and the 2nd best team in each sectional anyway? Sure, sometimes it's obvious. But sometimes it's not. That's kind of why they play the tournament to begin with. If you want to start by saying that Team X is already the best team in the sectional before you play it, then let's just cut to the chase and start at the regional round of the tournament with just those teams that were already deemed to be the best in their sectional.

That was my thought as well about not wanting to reorganize the sectionals every year. Just wasn't sure how they were planning to get back on that 2-year schedule.

Just curious how everything is going to work since they did the SF reclasses last off-season but not the attendance-based realignment. My assumption is that they will do the attendance-based realignment after this season but hold off on the SF reclasses until after the 2022 football season. But if they're ever going to sync the two back up, one will need to be a year early or a year late at some point and I hadn't read anything about that.

First half wasn't much to write home about either. Will be interesting to see if it costs them in the playoffs. Some years it hasn't hurt them but I'd argue no way they make it to state in 2019 had they not learned some early lessons against Marion and Delta. But in years prior they ended up in the state finals anyway with a lackluster regular season schedule.

By who?

This game will not do anybody any good. Harrison would be better served having an extra practice instead. Props to the HC coach. He is apparently not afraid to take his team and play someone good. He's done it two weeks in a row now. Unfortunately, they just don't have the players to compete. I don't know why the Eastbrook game didn't come to fruition, but that would've been a more competitive game and actually an interesting one for fans.

If Eastbrook can schedule that they absolutely should. A challenging game like that would be like a gift for them after not really having one on the regular schedule all year.

Agree. Just answering the hypothetical about teams that should be attractive to the Sagamore. Hoosier Conference is solid in spite of a terrible name.

Heritage Christian, Brebeuf, Tipton, Hamilton Heights, Speedway. If you start looking smaller, which I wouldn't, then Sheridan, Clinton Prairie, and Clinton Central. And I only include those schools because under your premise Frankfort is still in the conference.

I think this could work well for TW and Danville who would likely stick together through any movement. I don't think the Montgomery County schools have any interest in splitting up into different conferences. I think Western Boone will always look at the Montgomery County schools and Lebanon as their main rivals and would want to stay in a conference with both. I could see Lebanon looking to move on to a more Indy-centric conference at some point but their football team doesn't really demand an upgrade in competition at this point. When they are at their best, they compete near the top of the Sagamore but they aren't ready to compete regularly against the Indy Catholic powers or larger public programs like Brownsburg and Zionsville.

I was talking about the cultural fit. They are not "upscale" like Western Boone.

Nah. The Montgomery County schools are all fine. Frankfort is the misfit. They should go to the Hoosier Heartland Conference imo.

He also apparently can't read a map.

I would've scheduled Kokomo just because it's a game I'd want to see. I'm guessing it would be a better gate and almost certainly superior competition and I think playing games like that make the team tougher in the playoffs. But I'm just a fan. Not a coach. I don't know the reasons behind the decision. Perhaps it's as simple as wanting to get a win for homecoming and they'd have been significant underdogs to Kokomo. Maybe they just don't want to schedule what would figure to be a more physical game and go into the final 3 games of their conference schedule banged up with games against 5-0 Southmont, 4-1 Danville, and their rivalry game against 4A Lebanon still on the horizon. Maybe there are some relationships involved or maybe there were other factors none of us is aware of. You seem to assume it's just that they don't want to risk a more likely loss. That could be it, or part of it, or not it at all. It's not as if they haven't played 5A Lafayette Harrison and 4A Western in recent years as one of their 2 nonconference games so it's not like they are just looking for easy wins there.

I'm sure what Muda thinks about covid-related scheduling is of great concern at Western Boone.....or really.....anywhere.

Fair enough. Like I mentioned earlier, I don't have all of the details but I have heard a great deal about it. Appreciate your perspective.

Questioning decisions made by certain people? Yeah, I have. Wish I didn't have to do it anymore but adults need to make the right choices.

Nobody has been torn down but your defensiveness speaks volumes and confirms my thoughts.

https://twitter.com/WeBoAthletics/status/1441105741822136322?s=20

South Bend Washington now looking for a game? https://twitter.com/gridirondigest/status/1441106088238059526?s=20

Since when does Mason Gillis play Eastbrook football? When did Eastbrook hire Matt Painter as their football coach?