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Sectional 40

Perry Central #213 vs South Spencer #234

If we can make all of the corrections in this thread then I will start individual corrected threads for each individual class under the title “Frozen Tundra Class A”’, “Frozen Tundra Class 2A’” etc. Hopefully we can save the discussions til then as long as we catch everything. Thanks for all of the help. 

Sectional 27 (Corrected)

Heritage #88 vs Wabash #267

Garrett #180 vs Woodlan #230

Bluffton #104 Fort Wayne Concordia #250

Fort Wayne Luers #93 vs Manchester #262

1A corrections:

     Sectional 46:

     Indianapolis Lutheran #11 vs Edinburgh #306

     South Decatur #248 vs Indianapolis Tinley #271

     Sectional 47:

     North Vermillion 298 vs Attica #315

     Fountain Central #209 vs North Central (Farmersburg)

Thanks for catching those. 

1A

     Sectional 41:

     Tri-County #281 vs Bowman Academy #325

     Frontier #283 vs South Newton #299

     Sectional 42:

     Triton #148 vs Culver #314

     North White #187 vs West Central #227

     Sectional 43:

     Caston #257 vs Clinton Central #292

     Tri-Central #270 vs North Miami #287

     Sectional 44:

     Southwood #224 vvs Fremont #289

     Northfield #237 vs Southern Wells #285

     Sectional 45:

     Tri #206 vs Cambridge City #317

     Wes-Del #278 vs Union City #286

     Sectional 47:

     North Vermillion #208 vs Attica #315

     Vermillion #209 vs North Central (Farmersburg) #302

     Sectional 48: 

     Springs Valley #143 vsTecumseh #295

     West Washington #242 vs North Daviess #252

2A

     Sectional 33:

     LaVille #103 vs North Newton #323

     Wheeler #177 vs Winamac #232

     North Judson #176 vs South Central (Union Mills) #274

     Andrean #121 vs Lake Station (Edisonn) #320

     Sectional 34:

     Adams Central #33 vs Bye 

     Central Noble #253 vs Churubusco #259

     South Adams #210 vs Whitko #303

     Eastside #173 vs Prairie Hts #314

     Sectional 35:

     Carroll #95 vs Covington #263

     Lewis Cass #191 vs Seeger #207

     Pioneer #163 vs Clinton Prairie #223

     Lafayette Central Catholic #101 vs Delphi #231

     Sectional 36:

     Winchester #150 vs BYE

     Madison-Grant #251 vs Elwood #293

     Monroe Central #241 vs Taylor #298

     Sheridan #188 vs BYE

     Sectional 37:

     Indianapolis Scecina #126 vs BYE

     Eastern Hancock #170 vs Shenandoah #254

     Covenant Christian #166 vs Knightstown #272

     Park Tudor #164 vs BYE

     Sectional 38:

     Milan #127 vs BYE

     Hagertown #211 vs Switerland Countyy #273

     North Decatur #195 vs Union City #318

     Northeastern #186 vs BYE

     Sectional 39:

     Linton-Stockton #87 vs BYE

     Eastern Greene #217 vs Riverton Parke #245

     North Knox #190 vs Parke Heritage #276

     South Putnam #113 vs Cloverdale #291          

     Sectional 40: 

     Providence #73 vs Crawford County #313

     Perry Central #213 vs Perry Central #213

     Forest Park #201 vs Eastern (Pekin) #246

     Paoli #123 vsClarksville #294

3A:

     Sectional 25:

     Rensselaer Central #174 vs Hammond Noll #301

     Griffith #249 vsBeton Central #256

     River Forest #228 vs Calumet #261

     Boone Grove #183 vs Whitig #282

     Section 26: 

     Tippecanoe Valley #35 vs Bremen #171

     John Glenn #124 vs Jimtown #139

     Rochester #115 vs Lakeland #140

     Knox #55 vs Fairfield #161

     Sectional 27:

     Fort Wayne Luers #93 vs Heritage #276

     Woodlan #230 vs Fort Wayne concordia #250

     Garrett #180 vs Manchester #262

     Bluffton #104 vs Wabash #267

     Sectioal 28:

     Alexandria Monroe #106 vs Blackford #307

     Oak Hill #165 vs #165 vs Eastbrook #189

     Maconaquah #159 vs Northwestern #226

     Eastern (Greentown) #153 vs Tipton #239

     Sectional 29: 

     Tri West #56 vs West Vigo #279

     North Montgomery #133 vs Southmont #145

     Greencastle #119 vs South Vermillion #147

     Western Boone #112 vs North Putnam #212

     Sectional 30: 

     Centerville #114 vs Christel House Manuel #300

     Speedway #152 vs Cardinal Ritter #204

     Heritage Christian #134 vs Frankton #205

     Lapel #116 vsPurdue Polytechnic #290

     Sectional 31:

     Triton Central #34 vs Brown County #308

     Brownstown Central #110 vs Cascade #128

     Indian Creek #97 vs Salem #258

     Monrovia #69 vs Mitchell #288

     Sectional 32: 

     Heritage Hills #45 vs Princeton #260

     Southridge #100 vs Evansville Mater Dei #132

     North Posey #77 vs Tell City #144

     Pike #66 vs Sullivan #149

4A:

     Sectional 17:

     Hanover Central #31 vs South Bend Clay #305

     South Bend St. Joseph #135 vs Kankakee #138

     South Bend Riley #107 vs Highland #214

     New Prairie #67 vs South Bend Washington #238

     Sectional 18: 

     Mishawaka Marian #30 vs Culver Academy #304

     Northwood #58 vs West Noble #84

     Leo #51 vs Wawasee #158

     East Noble #41 vs Angola #175

     Sectional 19:

     Mississinnewa #78 vs Belmont #247

     Yorktown #92 vs Norwell #146

     Delta #86 vs Marion #193

     Ft Wayne Dwenger #81 vs Jay County #196

     Sectional 20: 

     Guerin Catholic #37 vs Frankfort #275

     Peru #96 vs Lebanon #117

     West Lafayette #76 vs Twin Lakes #155

     Hamilton Heights #49 vs Western #167

     Sectional #21

     Brebeuf Jesuit #60 vs Indianapolis Washington #269

     Owen Valley #216 vs Crawfordsville #236

     Northview #94 vs Indianapolis Shortridge #240

     Danville #83 vs Edgewood #265

     Sectional 22:

     Indianapolis Chatard #6 vs Greensburg #264

     New Castle #154 vs Franklin #178

     Beech Grove #136 vs Rushville #185

     Batesville #47 vs Connersville #221

     Sectional 23: 

     Lawrenceburg #71 vs Corydon Central #292

     Charlestown #168 vs Silver Creek #184

     Madison #157 vs North Harrison #192

     South Dearborn #120 vs Scottsburg #222

     Sectional 24: 

     Gibson Southern #36 vs Washington #243

     Evansville Memorial #62 vs Evansville Bosse #108

     Vincennes Lincoln #59 vs Boonville #122

     Jasper #53 vs Mt Vernon (Posey)  #151

So here we go. Each class will be in a separate post in case anyone wants to cut and paste and start individual threads per class. Have fun and be kind. 

5a:

      Sectional 9:

      Harrison (WL) #38 vs  East Chicago Central #309

      Lowell #129 vs Hammond Central # 169

      Hammond Morton #118 vs Munster #203

      McCutcheon #70 vs Gary West #219

     Sectional 10:

     Valpariso #20 vs South Bend Adams #160

     Hobart #54 vs Michigan City #61

     Mishawaka #30 vs Chesterton #102

     Merrillville #28 vs LaPort #141

     Sectional 11: 

     Northridge #68 vs Huntington North #229

     Columbia City #130 vs Logansport #179

     Concord #90 vs Goshen #200

     Kokomo #72 vs Plymouth #202

     Sectional 12:

     Ft Wayne Snyder #18 vs BYE

     Dekalb #125 vs Ft Wayne North #131

     Ft Wayne Wayne #109 vs Muncie Central #172

     New Haven #48 vs Ft Wayne South #202

     Sectional 13:

     New Palestine #19 vs Richmond #235

     Pendleton #46 vs Mt. Vernon #63 

     Roncalli #43 vs Attucks #181     

     Greenfield Central #32 vs Anderson #225

     Sectional 14:

     East Central #4 vs Jennings County #197

     Greenwood #82 vs Seymour #98

     Franklin #74 vs Shelbyville #137

     Whiteland #64 vs Columbus East #142

     Sectional 15:

     Bloomington North #15 vs Terre Haute North #235

     Plainfield #29 vs Martinsville #44

     Decatur Central #25 vs Mooresville #52

     Bloomington South #16 vs Terre Haute South #79

     Sectional 16: 

     Evansville Reitz #15 vs Evansville Central #215

     Floyd Central #57 vs Bedford North Lawrence #89

     Castle #50 vs New Albany #194   

     Evansville North #39 vs Evansville Harrison #198

So I will take on the project (for fun) of seeding all of the teams according to their current calpreps overall state ranking. I’ll then post the hypothetical brackets according to @Frozen Tundra’s work from above. If I feel extra goofy I’ll run the games through their matchup predictor and post results for each round of the playoffs. Sectionals on Monday, Regionals on Tuesday, semi state on Wed and State on Thursday. I should have the seeded brackets up tonight 

So now who has a contact at the IHSAA and can share this with them? Outstanding work, btw

@Titan32 Yeah. No fun in sending home a 7-2 team. Leave that for the commoners. Watching mids fight it out is never as enjoyable.

Selfishly I’d like to see BCHS play Tippy, Peru and HH. Might as well play new teams and have undefeated vs undefeated matchups each week. 

@Lysander To solve the Sectional problem just get back to seeding the top 8 (or 10 or 12, whatever) and give them a first round bye. Blind draw the rest of the matchups. If a bumped up team is one of the best teams and gets seeded then they are nearly guaranteed to get to the “Regional” round. Assign 1 pt for a first round win (or bye), 2 for a second round win and so on. Change the success factor (for those bumped up) to 3 points over two years so they have to actually win at least one game and also say they can’t be moved down if they have been a seeded team for two years in a row.

The next argument will be “Why do so many of those damn cheating Catholics get bye’s (and a week to rest) in the first round every year while everyone else has to beat each other up for the right to play them?”.

We can solve that problem later.

I posted this in another thread but it is probably more appropriate for this thread.

Just a quick comparison of the teams in Sectional 28 based on highest ranked opponent (according to Calpreps) that they have beaten:

@ballhawk

Just a quick comparison of the teams in Sectional 28 based on highest ranked opponent (according to Calpreps) that they have beaten:

Guerin: #1843 Brebeuf 34-29

Peru: #4495 Rochester 34-23

Tippecanoe: #2282 West Lafayette 35-13

Hamilton Heights: #3740 Lafayette Central Catholic 15-0

Oak Hill: #6594 Eastern 34-19

Maconaquah: #7806 Cass 43-26

Northwestern: #9535 Tipton 43-27

Great records are sometimes built on a foundation of sticks. I think the strength of this Sectional is misleading. Peru could beat Guerin. Northwestern could pull the upset over Maconaquah. Oak Hill might have a chance against Hamilton Heights (not very likely) but I think you could drop in any other 3A team in the Top 10 (excluding Knox. They would fit right in) and they still walk away with this Sectional.

11 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

I’m putting together a list of classifications for the scenario of a 32 team 1A and a 32 team 6A. I might just create a new topic thread since it’s not really relevant to the subject of this one. Stay tuned. 

Sounds like a fun chat. Maybe incorporate the preference by some to move the successful privates (and dominant publics) based on Calpreps Dynasty rating. I realize that is a bit much but not sure how much of a geek you are for this. Looking forward to seeing the thread. I’d be glad to help if you need it. 

The drive will likely be the toughest portion of your game day experience.

@BLACKGOLD2007 keep in mind that Sagarin does not include out-of-state games. With so many teams playing out-of-state competition you might want to lean towards calpreps. Not sure how each of them do their math but it would probably be best to incorporate each.

2 hours ago, BTF said:

It'll never happen. The IHSAA is to bullheaded to accept another idea that isn't their own. They should be ashamed of themselves and embarrassed. No way should Tipp Valley be playing Chatard in the first round. East Noble vs New Haven in round one has turned Sectional 19 into a joke. Then the winner squared off against Leo. This is lunacy. 

Just curious. Do you think that TV or BCHS got the shaft by not having seeded the teams? If it’s BCHS, I can assure you that they do not care who they play, the location or the round. If it is TV, would you just like to get to see them play and win few meaningless playoff games. The real “playoffs” don’t actually begin til Regionals. Sectionals are the participation trophy for all the teams. If they seeded the entire playoffs then that would encourage more teams to play super soft regular season schedules and disincentivize the regular season. You wouldn’t have seen top games during the season as each team would be looking to go undefeated. As much as some teams get the shaft each year during the playoffs wouldn’t you rather see great games during the regular season? As it is some of these 8-0 teams have schedules filled with uninspiring competition and will likely lose to teams with less impressive regular season records. 

If you really want seeded playoffs then the IHSAA needs to go to all Sectionals being at least 8 teams. 1A and 6A might have to expand. All teams play every team in their Sectional every year plus 3 or 4 at large games for a total of 10 (or 11) regular season games (this allows for 2-4 rivalry games a year that don’t count toward seeding). Winner of the Sectionals (only counting the head to head games) go to the playoffs. Everyone else goes home. Maybe Top 2 from each Sectional just to keep playoffs large.

Now every game is important. The downside is that a short term injury to a star player can eliminate a team from the “playoffs” by week 4 if all of their early season games are in the Sectional. 

Just my opinion but what do I know? My takes are usually the least educated ones on this site.

@temptation The game, like the rest of Cathedral’s remaining home games, is being moved due to the problems with Arlington’s lights not working during their game vs Chatard. Apparently that was the last straw and Cathedral won’t play there anymore (unless it is a last resort. I’ve heard that they also have contacted UIndy about using their field. 

If I heard correctly, one of the coaches for Andrean is Coach Doyle’s brother. I would expect this to be an annual game. Much as Chatard loves to play bigger teams to prepare for the playoffs, regardless of the outcome, this game will make Andrean better for their annual playoff run. I also wouldn’t expect Chatard to run up the score if that is an option. Expect a much lower scoring game than Sagarin predicts. 

Probably closer to 24-0. Chatard’s offense is missing their top RB. Hopefully the starting G and QB play this week. The injury bug has not been kind to them this year. 

12 hours ago, Donnie Baker said:

Rid! 

LOL

1 hour ago, Donnie Baker said:

I don’t think you’re funny and I’ll say it right to your face 

Sounds good. I’ll let you know the next time I come to the circus and I can wait for you to finish cleaning up after the elephants.