Gipper

1 hour ago, cw13 said:

Harrison will probably be 6A next realignment. Conference makes sense, especially in preparation for the tournament. After the Lafayette schools were forced to leave the HCC the NCC looked pretty good. I'm guessing the NCC would love to see the bigger schools join up with another conference 

This is all GM’s fault...

I stand corrected, same distance.

Kokomo may be a bit too far, remaining with Logansport, Marion, Anderson, Muncie, and Richmond could be in their best interest.

8 minutes ago, southend said:

I could also see Columbus East getting into this new conference. Saturday games, great idea, unless PU or Indiana has home games. How do we circumvent the potential conflict?

Conflict is constant...

1 minute ago, DT said:

East will not be invited.  Commissioner DT makes the call on all invites.  

The CN-CE rivalry ends with this conf realignment.  

Impeach!!!

Having the Lafayette schools in a conference with Bloomington, Columbus could work.  The travel might even ease up a bit as Anderson, Muncie, and Richmond aren’t exactly next door...

3 minutes ago, southend said:

I could also see Columbus East getting into this new conference. Saturday games, great idea, unless PU or Indiana has home games. How do we circumvent the potential conflict?

I went to mapquest: Lafayette to both Bloomington and Columbus is a little over 100 miles.  Muncie is also a little over the century mark, while Richmond is 135.  I kind of like this idea...

56 minutes ago, Staxawax said:

This is my mystery team.  Certainly I don't disagree with their ranking.  After all it is for recognition purposes only.  And they are deserving of this recognition.  But they basically had a 3-game season.  West Lafayette, Harrison and Lawrence Central.  They passed those tests. Barely!  And all 3 scored a lot of points.  You can convince me that they can score points, but it will be hard to convince me they can stop the top teams in 6A defensively.  

 

CLASS	SECTIONAL	JOHN HARRELL'S INDIANA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL		RECENT SEASONS
6A	1	E-MAIL CORRECTIONS	MAP TO SCHOOL	8-0
		TOURNAMENT HISTORY
LAFAYETTE JEFF BRONCHOS Coach: Pat Shanley, 33-7 in 4th year at school

DATE	OPPONENT		EASTERN TIME				OA 55.6, DA 23.6
Aug. 23		West Lafayette 3A	W	74	66
Aug. 30	at	Lawrence Central 6A	W	36	34
Sep. 6		McCutcheon 5A ©	W	47	12
Sep. 13	at	Harrison (West Lafayette) 5A ©	W	47	35
Sep. 20	at	Kokomo 5A ©	W	55	3
Sep. 27		Anderson 5A ©	W	69	13
Oct. 4	at	Richmond 4A ©	W	54	12
Oct. 11		Logansport 4A ©	W	63	14
Oct. 18		Indianapolis Tech 6A ©	7:00 pm
©NORTH CENTRAL CONFERENCE GAME

 

Seems that Jeff is to the NCC as New Pal is to the HHC.  But they don't play conference foe Marion, 20-2 in their last 22 games, which could have been a good test.  New Pal has proven themselves, Jeff is going to have to do it right away against Merrillville in the sectional 1 opener.  Win that game and a lot of doubts will be erased, and a semistate matchup with either an Allen Co. school or a Hamilton Co. school could be waiting.  

Someone educate me on what they do well.  Defense?  No!

Jeff--Merrillville should be an interesting one as I don't  know what to think of the Pirates either...

Not too happy bit this particular thread.   Winning games can be tough given injuries, the general youth of the team, among other factors.  But these kids are out there fighting, let's not make fun of their efforts.

3 minutes ago, Coach Nowlin said:

so if I am correct,  all the OL has to do is throw their head back violently and you will fool umpires into BS hands to the face penalties?  

That seemed to be the case last night....

I like how this Sectional matches up and glad to hear hardly anybody was clamoring for more of that seeded crap....

Let's give a big shout out to Jack Plummer and David Bell--offensive player and freshman of the week I'm the B1G.

Not too disappointing...

NW

SN will emerge victorious in the first Contraction Bowl

NN

Fremont

I took a look at the remaining schedule, a good chance we can run the table.

I will definitely take the win, that’s for sure, but we need to work on dumb penalties.

5 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

Come on guys, you can get there......

I say it's eclipsed by 2:00 CDT...

and I'll do my part!

consummate teammate--that's how I roll...

If the football gods are not appeased, you're going to see an increase in ACL tears, knocked up cheerleaders and tepid hot chocolate--nobody wants any part of that.

3 minutes ago, Lysander said:

In 50% of our 6 classes (Classes 1A-6A), there is a game being played the first round that might well have been a game that should have been played in LOS on Thanksgiving weekend per Sagarin (and I’m tired of hearing all of the bonehead b!tching about Sagarin....as if some polled Sportswriter or Coach in Angola knows ANYTHING about the relative strength of a team in Evansville or vice versa.....give me a break).

6A: Sagarin #1 Avon v. Sagarin #2  Brownsburg

3A: Sagarin #1 Chatard v. Sagarin #3 Brebeuf

2A: Sagarin #1 Lewis Cass v. Sagarin No. 2 Pioneer

Rather than football fans being able to enjoy the ability to see these games live, they will as likely as not be watching some 2-7 teams pound away at each other.....with one of them actually living to play another day.  While 50% of those 6 teams cited above Seniors will be turning in their gear having played their last game ever.  

Teams and kids that have spent years honing their skills to play at the highest levels in their class denied the chance to play in a high profile and electric  Sectional, Regional, Semi-State or even State Championship game.  

No.  

We would rather let ping pong balls decide....because “it’s the only fair way”.  

Its flatly wrong and we all know it.

And don’t give me this crap about “Football Gods”, “Sh!t Happens”, etc., etc.

This situation exists because WE allow it to.....not some fictional Football God.  We are just too damn lazy and indifferent to do anything about it.

If we really are honest to God fans of the game why do we tolerate this?

 

 

Never, I repeat never anger the football gods...

7 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

?

just being weird, I'm good at that.

18 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

Minimum 6 pages.

Over/Under....

Bring your "A" game...

21 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

That's only because we continue to allow it to happen lol. If this were any other state in the country, Avon gets a protected seed or bye and they aren't playing the second best in the state the opening weekend. Avon/Brownsburg is only allowed to happen because we continue to allow it to happen. That's why I'm advocating change, to make the regular season actually mean something. 

I see your point, but stodgy institutions/cults like the IHSAA probably don't deal with change well.

2 minutes ago, DannEllenwood said:

Minimum 6 pages.

Over/Under....

Easy.

3 minutes ago, Footballking16 said:

It's not about proving how tough your team is, it's about making the regular season mean something. What value is there in a conference title that doesn't get you a protected seed or a bye in the first round and at the very worst doesn't even guarantee you a home game in the first round? Avon is a game away from going undefeated in one of the toughest conferences in the state. Their reward? Drawing an away game against the second best team in the state the opening weekend. It's maddening. It's wrong. Show me another sport at any level where a conference championship doesn't impact your postseason draw. You can't.

As I have always maintained, no one gets all the cards.  Sometimes the football gods are on your side, sometimes not so much...

Just now, Thor77 said:

Seeding a sectional in wrestling is way different than seeding a sectional in football. Wrestling gets you 30+ points of data vs 9 you would get in football. Those kids are also more likely to compete against others in their sectional, not just a mainly conference schedule all season. 

Exactly.  If your team is so tough, prove it.

2 minutes ago, Gridiron_Junkie said:

THIS P'S Me OFF. Every year the same discussion.  So two top teams have to play in the first round and not for the Championship boo hoo hoo. It doesn't matter you have to play someone in the first round or you have to play them in the last round. S#!$ happens, its life.

Spot on.  No one gets all the cards.

Lowell lucked out, won’t have to play a team with a winning record until the title game.  Could very well be Hobart who they  play this coming Friday.  Good luck to all the teams!

26 minutes ago, Football50dad said:

Ok, I am a Hoosier who relocated to Illinois 15 yrs ago. Now I am stuck here! Lol

I don't have a ton of knowledge yet on HS sports here, mainly football, but my son will be entering HS next year, and it has made me start paying attention the last few seasons.  

 

First off, the Illinois season starts one week later than Indiana. So any changes to the playoff format, would likely simply be addressed by moving the start of the season up one week.  

The new proposed plan has many parents scratching their heads here, as most fans truly don't understand the idea of more teams making the playoffs (God forbid they all make it).  The high number of High Schools in Illinois is balanced out with 8 classes of roughly 32 playoff teams in each class.  So basically cut out one round of Sectionals (which here is Regionals the. Sectionals). 

 

The ultimate goal is to cut down the amount of travel in the first two or three rounds of playoffs.  I personally believe they all end of pre-assigning Districts of 8 teams, and the top 4 in each will make playoffs.  I do NOT think they will ultimately end up having a set deal where those 8 teams will be required to play during the regular season.  

 

Lastly, some asked why football playoffs should be set different than any other sport.  The answer is simple.  You can play 4-5 heck even 6 basketball, soccer, baseball, etc games a week. 3-4 wrestling meets with a wrestler having 10+ matches in a week.  But playing more than one football game a week is too much to ask a HS kid.  My kid plays 8th grade football and is starting on both Defense and offensive lines.  Even at that age, he takes at least two days to recover and ice the bruises.  We have all either seen or felt that exact thing.  

Sorry, brother.  I was a prisoner for 15 years, but made it out.  Whereabouts are you?