LaSalle Lions 1976

7 hours ago, Irishman said:

It’s a tie at 61 yards

Bryan Robertson Seymour HS 1999

Jerry Spicer Hobart HS 1975

 

Mr. Spicer was probable a straight on kicker.  Awesome

5 hours ago, foxbat said:

I'm wondering what the appeal was for IMG.  They can pretty much thrash just about anyone they want.  Are the pickings that thin for folks that will square off with IMG?  It's my understanding that they played Duncanville, TX in 2020, so they are getting top teams with an interest.  Perhaps it was the fact that this was a specific game at a specific venue on a specific date that pretty much made them decide that they'd rather face Sycamore than have an open date?

Maybe they have trouble getting teams to play them...can't have too many bye weeks in a season

I was teaching a MC when the new Ames was coming together.  It was a grass field installed by the "Sodfather" Roger Bossert.  The roots were about a foot deep.  Man that was a beautiful field.  But turf is the way to go now.

Good to see all the upgrades...well needed.

Just a random thought for an equalizer.   

How about all Catholic Schools only have Catholic Students.  That's the way it used to be.

Lutheran Schools have only Lutheran Students.

Christian Schools have only Protestant Students.

They all are private and don't have to admit anyone.

The South Bend school bell schedule will change next year.  This came from the other schools in the conference (as claimed by administration).  Hopefully, games will be played in a timely manner this season, unless transportation becomes a bigger issue.

Here might be a topic  to discuss for a while.

Do you think that the South Bend schools help or hinder the rest of the schools in conference, in football?

Interested to see everyone's opinion

We have a Jeshiva in South Bend and I got curious.

Would a high school football program schedule a game against a Jeshiva, considering they can't play Friday night or Saturday during the day, at the Varsity level.

Does anyone think that the NIC is the best fit for Elkhart and Penn now?

Maybe all the 6a DAC along with Elkhart, Penn, and Warsaw make a new conference.

Then Marian, St. Joe, and Jimtown join the NLC.  Glenn and New Prairie can go with their old NSC teams.

Could be the best for everyone

Why don't all the 6a's mentioned just become independents.  They can schedule who they want, when they want.  Make sure to include Warsaw in that mix as well

On 4/28/2021 at 6:19 PM, Footballking16 said:

Center Grove would lose its socio-economic advantage if it joined the HCC and would still run roughshed in that conference despite being one of the smaller schools. Enrollment nor socio-economic factors dictate coaching, culture, commitment.

No.

North Central. Pike. Noblesville. HSE. Fishers. 
 

Neither means a damn thing.

If all this doesn't matter...give me your plan to make Gary West a football power...if you choose to take this challenge

What happened to the NLC discussion.

This seems to be a theme across many Grid topics.  Can't stay on subject.

Although entertaining, hardly informative.

Why not have a general rant thread where people can just do what they wish...within reason.

6 hours ago, Julio said:

Everybody gets a trophy mentality.

 

I agree...nobody should get a trophy...especially in a team sport.

Glad to see common sense come to light

ADD has rendered it's head again.  May have to purchase an Adderall salt lick.

I remember a time where a coach would teach a subject they weren't licensed in order to coach.  The most popular subject was special ed.

I don't know of one coach who made it more than one year because of all the requirements, especially writing IEP's.  If you don't know what you are doing, they can take a long time to finish.

During football season, you don't know your Teacher of Record kids, let alone write an IEP for them.

Thanks goodness that isn't the trend anymore.

When I was in high school during the mid 70's, every coach at our high school was a teacher in the building.  I remember our Athletic Director taught 4 English Classes, had his teaching prep and one extra for AD duties, with no secretary.

Now...almost 50 years later, things have changed. About half the head coaches are teachers, and the AD is now a full time position with a secretary.

Have things become more complicated? Maybe so

Are there fewer teachers entering the field? More than likely, yes

Do new teachers think they can handle coaching and teaching?  Looks like more no's than yeses.

Coaching has become a year round activity, it's seems that fewer teachers are willing to put that time to do both jobs.

Does the football coach need to be a full time position? 

Just curious...why is OT a thing.  Games have ended in a tie since sports began.

It is necessary to have a winner.  I can see it if has to do with seeding a tournament or something like that.

I remember going to the last tie game at Notre Dame Stadium.  I still enjoyed the game.

Overtime is needed during the playoffs, but why during the season

Gary West is the real deal.  Carmel will have their hands full.

Just curious, is a requirement of the Concordia head coach is that he is a practicing Lutheran?

2 hours ago, temptation said:

Eh, not in basketball where you only need 5.

I will say, it must be discouraging to have the two best players on the floor and still get beat.

It's gonna be a long afternoon next Saturday...Gary West is the real deal.

Nice to bring Gary West in any conversation here

Is this proposal only for the rural teams?

Here in South Bend...we are the Washington Generals of high school football.  Maybe a step down in class may be the ticket

On 2/24/2021 at 8:43 AM, vicvinegar said:

There obviously isn't just one answer, but I think for SOME of these school's Admin either doesn't care or have given up. 

First, make practice convenient for players. Have an athletic class. Students no longer have to find a way home after workouts, plus it allows them to work after school during the off-season.

Adding an activity bus would also increase participation. It would allow students a way home after practice in-season. This doesn't have to be difficult. Coaches can't drive players home after practice in their personal vehicles (at least aren't supposed to). So get them licensed to drive the activity bus and I'm sure a lot of coaches will be happy to take players home themselves. 

Secondly is coaching. I feel a lot of these schools fall in one of three categories. Either they hire a coach and fire them after 2-3 years if they haven't turned the program around. Coaches need more time than that to turn these perennial losers. OR hire a coach that averages 2-3 wins a year and the Admin allows them to stick around for 10-15 years. apparently they aren't a good fit. OR they hire a coach that has been to 2-3 schools and failed. It honestly puzzles me. I assume they feel that they are hiring someone that "knows" how to run knows how to run a program, keeping the Admin from having to deal with any day to day headaches.  

Admin should also take coaching into consideration when they are hiring teachers. It should factor in if a teacher is willing to coach one or multiple sports. Obviously not every teacher is going to be a coach, but I do feel like coaches are judged in a negative way by a lot of admin. They believe coaches just want to coach and don't care about teaching. Are there bad teachers that coach? Sure. Are there bad teachers that that don't coach? You bet! This would actually allow HC's to get talented assistants as opposed to having MAYBE a teacher or two, then hoping for lay coaches to fill out the rest of the staff. There are plenty of talented lay coaches, but work schedule keeps a lot of guys from coaching. 

Once again there are multiple reasons why some programs struggle year after year, but I feel Admin is one of the main factors. 

 

 

I may need help to verify my answer to this.

A big problem getting teachers to coach is their teaching workload may be too big to handle all.

Example, in a big school, a math teacher may only be teaching Algebra all day.  The same teacher in a small school may be teaching Algebra, Geometry, Trig, and Calculus.  That's 4 different preps daily.  A lot to put on a plate.

Also, some coaches may get an extra prep during their season...That's shorts the department one class someone will have to cover.

For the experienced teacher, may not be a problem, but the new teacher...very difficult to master in the first couple of years.

I think he means playing the conference schedule in the same orders every year.  Do conferences ever change the order of the conference schedule?

6 hours ago, PDB26 said:

I think they're using the old Elkhart Central building specifically for freshmen.

exactly...they did that when Elston and Rogers combined for Michigan City High School as well

1 hour ago, Gipper said:

The time zone thing is a big deal and will school boards and ADs sign off on this?

New Prairie plays on Central Time so that has already been solved

So, if Elkhart and Penn move to the DAC...would the subsequent move be Michigan City and LaPorte to the NIC?