OldschoolFB

3 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Up in NW Indiana, Boone Grove has put all fall sports workouts on hold due to the virus.

Over the weekend, the Crown Point Babe Ruth baseball all-star teams reported 3 positive test for the virus.

I just dont see schools doing nothing when positive tests pop up. 

It doesnt matter what we think. Schools have liability to consider.

As opposed to just covering their backsides liability wise, perhaps they should consider the kids mental health by being locked in their homes for 3/4 if a year without school or contact with their friends.  Find a solution to the liability as opposed to cancelling everything. 

23 hours ago, DannEllenwood said:

Book it!  😂 

See. Here’s a YUGE difference between libs and conservatives. Conservatives have a sense of humor. Libs. Eh. Haven’t met one yet. 😉 

Just saw this. 
Facts matter people. 
FACTS over fear. 
LETS ROLL!!!!!!

See you 8/14 and 8/15

If we don’t push back and say no, the powers that be are going to keep pushing things on us the vast majority do not want.  

I just went to CDC site myself and saw that 15-24 year olds, nationwide have had 142 deaths.  All of which had PE conditions. It’s out of control what the Govt, IHSAA, schools and so on are doing here.  Missing school, work, being locked down, missing sports, band events, Cancelled/postponed weddings, not having visitors when you are 80 years old in Nursing Home and lonely, cancelled family vacations, Church closings will all take a mental and physical toll on people.  What is going to be the long term effects from these things?   A lot worse than the virus.  
I’m not even taking into account that during the lockdown, alcohol abuse went up, as did spousal abuse, suicides and many more unintended consequences.  It’s time to say no and say what we all know to be true.  Let’s open everything up, use common sense and move on.  It’s life and we can’t live life in the state of fear from the unknown.  

13 hours ago, DannEllenwood said:

LOVE this. 

He knows what he’s talking about. 

I second Dann-O’s approval. 

4 minutes ago, Robert said:

Can you/they volunteer in a harder hit area?  ...rejoice that things are hunky-dory in your area?  Be thankful? I've seen this comment in other places, but typical football coach mentality/stereotype is screaming through this site lately.  Maybe it's just me.

Add Robert to the list of people actively cheering against playing sports.  Solutions are offered to you and you insult the person.   Having a positive attitude and trying to find a solution isn’t a negative.  

6 hours ago, JustRules said:

You wearing a mask helps others. Them wearing a mask helps you. So if we all collectively do it we reduce the spread. It will never eliminate it, but greatly reducing isn't a bad thing. And in most instances it's really easy to do. A football game isn't one of them though. While eating or drinking isn't one of them. But if you aren't doing activities like that why not? The science clearly states it helps in a significant enough way.

The science?   Show me the science that states this.   I have seen the same people stating it helps say the exact opposite on a separate day.   If I say, “the science clearly states masks don’t protect you”.  Does that make it true?  
Do you know what the Science does clearly state?  We will all likely be infected and the higher the %, the less dangerous it becomes.  
 

On 6/28/2020 at 3:11 PM, Bobref said:

It is now a virtual lock that we will have high school football this Fall. Post your comments, observations, hopes, fears, etc., as we try to find the “new normal.”

Observation: there is no possible way the high school football season can proceed safely. The pros and NCAA make a better case for the return to competition, since the cornerstone of their guidance is frequent and thorough testing of even asymptomatic individuals coupled with isolation protocols. Yet several colleges have already suspended their summer programs because of large numbers of positives. There won’t be any such testing at the high school level.  If you doubt it, read this article by former Munster High School Trainer John Doherty. https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/sports-medicine-even-athletes-must-be-vigilant-to-ravages-of-covid-19/article_1c678744-361d-5ce9-8baa-e37e76a39f63.html He quotes Dan Slotar, a fellowship-trained infectious disease specialist, as follows:

“I’ve been an advocate for reentry and reopening of society in general but with certain caveats,” he said. “Some sports are easier to contemplate restarting without the need for as aggressive testing as professional athletes have the luxury of access to. So there is obviously going to be a spectrum. Cross country and golf are one extreme and wrestling would be the other extreme. I would be hesitant about contact sports like football or even basketball without testing. I don’t how that can be addressed on the high school level.” (emphasis supplied)

Comment: the return to competition is driven almost wholly by economics. The IHSAA got no revenue from the boy’s basketball tournament. They miss the boy’s football tournament and they’re going to be bankrupt. Schools are in the same boat. Without that revenue, athletic departments are simply unable to function. So, I hope we have a great season. But don’t kid yourself. People are going to die who would not have died otherwise. I hope it’s worth it.

 

Virtually everyone will get this virus regardless of the precautions we take. It’s just a matter of weather or not you have symptoms or not.  The higher the % of the population that gets it, the less dangerous it becomes.   It’s how a virus likes this works.  Have you ever considered this?  Since this is the case,  why do anything different at all?   I suppose in November that will likely be the case.  

On 6/12/2020 at 7:43 PM, statmurp_10 said:

So sorry you're blatantly misinformed, but the Pandemic rolls on, and in many places it is exercising its second wind. All of these, so called, reopening to normalcies, are just a gamble that every state's health department may be able to stay on top of the citizen's healthy do diligence and everyone continues to exercise safe social distancing, and the use of face masks. I guess it is fine to handicap  your own decision making for the finishes in 5A football.

No body is gambling anything by reopening.   
I remember when the scare was hospitals being overwhelmed.  Once it was clear that would not happen,  the goal posts moved to get rid of it altogether.  Now that we opened back up, you are going to soft play it again and say, it’s only a Safety measure to avoid overwhelming the hospitals and then you will move to we have to have a vaccine and on and on.  
We need to live ours lives not in fear unlike your wishes for everyone.  Take a hike. 

On 5/31/2020 at 11:47 AM, Robert said:

Dwenger has a new OC and DC.  We'll see how they turn out.   Dwenger followers often say that the HC puts the stronger players on defense rather than offense.  They say the wrong running back was playing.  I don't know, I just pick my nose. 

That is true.  Defense thus far always has had “first pick”. I was told they try to limit 2 way players as much as possible.  From an injury standpoint, it seems to be a good move up to a point but at some point, you play to win as opposed to saving for another game. 
The running backs they used to start the game likely should not have started.  They were both fun to watch during the season and they played well against teams but If you ask around, most everyone says not playing 21(Finley)and 25(D Tippmann I think) there all season Became problematic on developing offensive identity.  Ellinger would have been fun to watch there too if not injured. Ultimate Dwenger offense  played an average game as Valpo was really good defensively and kept Dwenger from keeping drives alive. 
 

On 6/1/2020 at 6:18 PM, Bobref said:

 

Whoa! I never said Valpo was 21 pts. better than Dwenger. What I said was that if the Valpo QB had played even a halfway decent game that night, Valpo would have won that game by 3 TDS. I’m sure you understand the difference. And as for bias, I was there to observe and evaluate the officiating crew, not as a fan. I spent 40 seasons on the field being unbiased on a professional level. I’m probably the least biased guy on the GID.

The officiating was fine.  They missed holding calls in Valpo’s favor if you’re a BD fan.  They called a few holding penalties on big plays that shouldn’t have been if you’re a Valpo fan. The bottom line is Valpo made 1 more play than Dwenger. 

On 5/31/2020 at 9:10 PM, BTF said:

Rose colored glasses. I guess Dwenger's highly touted defense didn't have anything to do with they way Valpo's quarterback played. Three touchdowns? That's figuring everything going right for Valpo and nothing going right for Dwenger. What if everything went right for the Saints and nothing for the Vikings? Dwenger by three touchdowns? C'mon man, seriously. How about a simple congratulations to Valpo for winning a hard fought game?

I could not agree with you more.  One of the more shake my head comments I’ve seen in a while.  Dwenger was a dropped 3rd down pass in side the 15 from scoring in the 3rd as well.  If they would have kept throwing the ball, the turnovers would have started to happen for Valpo which is why they kept it on the ground. 

On 5/30/2020 at 7:08 PM, Bobref said:

I thought that if he had played even halfway decent against Dwenger, it would have been a 3 TD game.

If Dwenger would have played better in the special teams game, they would have won.  If Dwenger would have used their playmakers more often in the open field, they would have won.  If Dwenger would have played at home.......but they didn’t and they lost 10-7.  However, it wasn’t a 3 TD game.  That QB didn’t play well because Dwenger’s defense and was the best in the state.  Outside of the initial drive and a FG from a botched punt, Valpo didn’t do much offensively.  

On 3/4/2020 at 11:42 AM, jakone said:

Luers may the worst but it wasn't built with taxpayers money or a rich sugar daddies money. It was built in 1980 and the money came from fundraisers started by people who worked their backsides off so we could have are own little stadium. Gifts are nice but sometimes you have more a little more pride in something when you build it yourselves.

The money that built Dwenger’s stadium was from someone who has worked as hard as anyone you’ve ever met.   Having said that I understand what you’re saying and for the record, I actually love Luers field. But if I’m being objective, that’s where I have to rank it.  Personally, North Side is my least favorite followed by South, Carroll and then Wayne.  

 Bishop Dwenger played at South Bend St Joe a few years ago.  I felt they have an excellent stadium.   
 

6 hours ago, btownqbcoach said:

He said it was nice? 

I may have misread the tone in his response.  Too many BD Snider arguments over the years and it was all instinct.  I admit I was wrong. 

6 hours ago, btownqbcoach said:

He said it was nice? 

I may have misread the tone in his response.  Too many BD Snider arguments over the years and it was all instinct.  I admit I was wrong. 

I was making an objective analysis.  Yours is clearly based on your dislike of Dwenger.  It doesn’t matter to me at all if you don’t attend or even like Bishop Dwenger’s new stadium.  It’s your loss and something tells me you wouldn’t like it even if a personal suite was built especially for you . 
 

3 hours ago, BTF said:

The visitors side is a duplicate of the home side, minus the press box. All concrete with the concession stand behind the 50 yard line. Don't have to walk a mile to get a drink or go to the restroom like most stadiums. 

You only have to walk a mile to get into the stadium.  Spuller is a nice venue but I think it ranks 4th in the SAC.  Behind Dwenger, Zolner and Homestead and I’m sure soon to be Carroll. Wayne is literally a carbon copy of Spuller, North Side and South side are not so good.  And Luers is the worst. 

9 hours ago, southend said:

Is this a fact?

 

I think most of them would play at a smaller school, including,but not limited too, Ball St. and Indiana St. Not necessarily Dll or lower. 

You are now arguing for the sake of. Your Entire argument is based on kids are only going to Indiana because they have a PWO and this is hurting small schools. 
 And now you ask me how do I know they won’t play football at Indiana without a PWO.  Well if they decided they still wanted to tryout when they arrived at Indiana in the fall, they obviously would not be playing at the smaller schools.  Therefore Coach Allen is not at fault for the sudden catastrophic decline in Indiana Small College football. .  CONGRATULATIONS!!! You’ve just won the argument..... with yourself. 

16 hours ago, southend said:

Do you think all of these guys would go to Indiana if they weren't offered PWO?

Your point(lack thereof) of the PWO’s weakening the smaller schools is silly.  You don’t have anything to back it up other than you wish Allen wouldn’t do it.  As I mentioned, the NAIA unlimited offers hurts the schools you are worried about much more than the extra 3-4 PWO’s per season. 
Would these extra PWO’s go to Indiana without it?   For football?  Obviously not. For school alone?  Some of them would  likely would  

Do You really think every one of the PWO’s would play football at the D2 or lower level if not offered the PWO?  Small school football isn’t for everyone.  I personally loved it when I was in school but to play in front of less than 1000 many games is a tough sell for some kids. 
 

13 hours ago, southend said:

Nothing personal Oldschool. Just years of observing.  PWO is a detriment.  

According to 247, Indiana has 10 players  who have agreed to accept the PWO opportunity. 1 is a kicker, 1 is a LS. That means 8 are position players.  10 a year is a good number.  Even if they took a few more, it would be good as 2 are special teams and if you use the average % that scholarship classes lose players over 4 years, that number of PWO position players is likely 6 at best.  Coach Allen is smart to offer PWO to players he has seen on film and knows what kind of player they are and extend his connection to more Indiana HS’s.  The other way to reach 125 man full capacity roster is take walkons who just show up Frosh year and you get to see for a day or 2.  
 NAIA programs who can basically offer an unlimited number of players and have grant money to offer that pays for most if not all of their school is a much bigger detriment to the small schools you are bent out of shape about.  

On 2/24/2020 at 4:27 PM, southend said:

PWO status is not needed to accomplish any of this. 
This is just a tool to lure kids in.  Nothing special. 

South end must know someone getting a PWO who is better than someone he has a personal connection with.  OR someone Walked on  from his high school when he was younger and he didn’t and he still can’t let it go.   

On 2/3/2020 at 8:20 AM, southend said:

Preferred walk on roster for Indiana University is bulging at the seams with Indiana kids. Depleting the available instate athletes for smaller state colleges and universities. including ,but not Limited to.other In state D1schools. Most of these kids will never see the light of day in their career at IU. whether Allen thinks he’s being generous or what. This is not a good thing. 

There is not a list of Indiana preferred walkons posted anywhere.  And even if you could find a list of PWO’s, Which you can’t because it’s not complete, you would have to compare it with the size of other power five schools to give it any validity. 

On 1/1/2020 at 6:33 PM, psaboy said:

i agree, Carroll is likely best in SAC, I would saw Homestead/Dwenger duke it out for second. Snider has a lot of skill positions to fill on O, and has some big D positions to replace, they may have tough year. That is unless there are some surprise transfers or some young'ins step up. 

If Dwenger plays their best players 2 ways as opposed to pretending they are a 6A school and only play guys 1 way as much as possible, they would win the SAC.  If they do what they did this past year and only use their best when they are “needed” they will fall short again in the SAC and in the playoffs. 
If that happens,  Homestead and Carroll will vie for 1st place, with Homestead winning.    Snider and Dwenger could still surprise but likely will battle it out for 3rd and 4th.  
Concordia has the skill players to surprise as does North Side.  Northrop and Luers are next and then South Side and Wayne will do their best to come in last place. 
Concordia and Dwenger have the best chance to make it to State.  Followed by Homestead and Carroll.  

2 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

I know a story that was told to me very recently of a 6a coach that is very well respected recently stated that Maxen Hook would be playing in the NFL.  

 

I wish I would have said it first.  I do not find that statement to be crazy at all.  

12 hours ago, DT said:

If you follow the recruiting rankings and have any faith in them, logic would dictate the following :

King - Big Ten

Hook - MAC

Spegal - GLIAC/GLVC

In my opinion, Hook could play in the Big 10 if given the chance.