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2 hours ago, FWfootball10 said:

I believe I saw this game was at 7. What ever happened to moving these games to 8? Thus allowing people that work until 5 to make the trip more easily. 

I figured the game was at 8 as well.  If that’s the case, the 7 o clock start is going to have a lot of people watching via the internet.  

I have a hard time figuring this one out.   Harrison has scored a lot of points this season but so has Homestead and so did Carroll and Snider. Dwenger’s totals given up against those 3 were 17, 3 and 7.  

I am going to wait until Friday to make my pick.   

Why was Finley not playing ?  I was wondering where he was.   

11 hours ago, jets said:

Getting deeper into the tournament - and as the weather starts to turn- curious as to if anyone has ever “given up” their home-field advantage to play on a better surface??  I seem to remember Monrovia-Ritter Semi-State was moved a couple times to Plainfield because of the playing surface?? I also remember watching Luers slop of a field last year and remember thinking to myself “such a same a high quality game like this is limited by the conditions of the field” ...Sorry if this is an obvious topic- I just don’t recall very many examples of it happening. 

Bishop Dwenger Vs Lowell in 2017 was moved to Homestead.   

3 hours ago, psaboy said:

Snider vs Northrop, anybody have any reason Panthers may overlook this one, other than Dwenger next week??

Virtually no chance Northrop wins.  Less than 1% chance. Snider is too disciplined. 

6 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

I think ppl have seen what HHS has done so far n think this may be their year.  They have good teams every year..not sure if this is a typical snider team though..if they are..should be a slugfest..

It will be a good game.  Homestead has more talent but Snider may have enough fight to pull this off.  We will see tomorrow night.  I will pick Snider. 28-24. 

Casey Kolkman.  Bishop Dwenger’s defensive coordinator.   They don’t win State last season without him.   

Don’t know about Carroll.  Homestead students thought it was a good idea to take apart new bleachers because they were not big enough and the video themselves doing it as well as video lighting something on fire in bleachers.   The odd thing is it was posted on Instagram and are trying to deny it happened.  I guess when you have never won a big game before, this is how you behave.  To credit the Homestead players, they handled everything well and are a very good team.    Fans and parents are going to need a quick tutoring session to catch up.  

Having said that,  Bishop Dwenger needs to realize that every single school on the SAC wants to beat them and want to do it badly.   This is a perfect example of what it means to other schools In SAC if they beat Dwenger

On 9/11/2019 at 2:47 PM, FWfootball10 said:

You’re right. Last year is last year and they did allow North Side WR’s to get open early. Homesteads WR’s will not drop those balls. However, that was only the first and maybe second drive of the game. After the first quarter they didn’t allow that to happen again. I haven’t seen the DB’s challenged enough this year to say whether they are good or not good. Hopefully the coaching staff has this corrected, guess we will see on Friday. 

Our DBs were actually pretty good last night.

 1 big penalty and 2 turnovers are what cost us.  One Ball should have been thrown away and one was basically on the handoff while hit by unblocked LB.   We cant afford those in any game let alone a big game.   Excellence in the small details win close games. 

Two other plays that could have changed the game was when Goode was in end zone and was sacked.   He threw it away and probably should have been called grounding.  But the WR the was kind of in an area you could maybe argue that the throw was to him.   Official chose not to call it.  

On play before FG, Goode threw a  pass that was caught by Dwenger.   Official behind the play hesitated for about 5 seconds looking for help on the call and finally signaled incomplete.   I don’t know if it was an INT or not but  I would love to see that one on replay.     If Dwenger is to get back to State, they need to make more big plays like this in games like this.  

5 hours ago, Robert said:

So, how early should I go to Dwenger to get a parking spot/seat on Friday?

The gates don’t open until 6 and there was plenty of parking on opening night.  That being said, North Side brought maybe 200 people (I’m being very generous).  

Homestead will obviously bring a larger crowd.  Their student section seems to travel particularly well and it’s huge.  

Hopefully, it will be a very exciting game.  Homestead has a lot of weapons to use and the 2 Safeties and LBs are very good.  Don’t know who the corners are or the D Line.   It appears the D line is not very big but they seem to be very tough and very quick.  If that’s the case.  Dwenger will need their A game to win this one.  

11 hours ago, Frozen Tundra said:

Are people going to take New Palestine seriously now or are we going to get the same old excuses?

Everybody I know takes New Pal seriously.  They are a very well coached, well conditioned, disciplined and hard nosed football team.   It’s very impressive. 

41 minutes ago, Indian72 said:

I was curious as to when Dwenger will play their 1st game on campus?

In just over a couple of hours. 

The rule has a bit of a tee ball feel to it.  Having said that, I’m all for limiting injuries and 73-0 games.    I do wish the rule had a few alterations to it.  

1.  I think the same thing could be accomplished if the clock started running at 42-0 and only runs in the second half no matter the score.  

2.  If the score dips back below say 28, the rule goes away and now stops like normal.  

3.  Coaches should be the ones to decide if the clock runs.  No team should be forced into it.  

7 hours ago, jakone said:

Dwenger at Wayne

Luers at Carroll Snider at North Side South Side at Concordia Homestead at Northrop all games start at 7pm.

Dwenger 

Carroll

Snider

Concordia

Homestead

17 hours ago, Rodney said:

There are only 5 notable teams in 5a this year.

1. Bishop dwenger

2. Valpo

3. Castle

4. Bloomington south

5. Michigan city

 

Heard from an inside source new pal will not be very good.

Rodney, who is your source?  Stevie Wonder?    

I can assure you, 100% of the people at Bishop Dwenger who understand football, believe New Pal will be extremely good.  

I have to believe you are not really a Dwenger fan and are trying to make our school look bad by saying things like this.  It’s like saying, I heard from an inside source, Alabama won’t be any good this year.  

2 hours ago, Mebuck said:

Carrolls defense looked good.

Dwenger looked flat but I also know they sat a few key players. Gave the younger kids more time. It was like watching NFL preseason game. I Do think the Saints will be ok. They are always slow the first game. Good chance they could lose next week at Wayne.

Saints looked ok.  It’s a good thing we had this scrimmage before the first game.  Having said that, if this was a real game, they would have not run scripted plays.  There was a lot of opportunity for big plays if we were using whole play book.  

Next week will be the real test to see where The Saints are at.  

It’s tough to say right now.  Snider has 38 Seniors and Homewtead returns a ton of skill but is the line good enough to protect Goode?   I don’t know who they have. For all I know they could be the greatest line ever.  Until first game, the top 3 are interchangeable.  If Wayne can capture last year’s magic earlier, they could surpass all of them.  North Side would be the long shot but the kids have bought in to their coach and it’s possible they could be very good.  One thing I know for sure is it’s going to be fun to watch and find out.  

If I was forced to pick, I will go with my heart and say Bishop Dwenger. Provided they avoid multiple injuries to 3 or 4 key players. 

12 hours ago, Olympian06 said:

Maybe I should have told you to scroll up and not him. I wasn’t the one that originally called it chirping.. that came from a parent of a player.. Even better effort though... 

Thanks for clarifying.  I see where Mr Hook never said BD was “chirping”.  It was another New Pal fan.  However, you referenced it and that’s why I responded to you.  

Whoever ends up getting to the 5A State Title game will have had a very tough road.  North and South.  Valpo will be very good. Michigan City as well.  Mishawaka will be good. North Side and/or Northrop could prove to be very good.  Regionals would be against quality programs too.   New Pal(obviously very well coached and the players are as hard nosed as you will find. (Hook, the DE, 3 returning OL and I believe Lbs and WR as well) Add CS at running back and they are as good as any team at all levels. Cathedral is Cathedral.  Decatur Central will be good. I’m not as knowledgeable about the teams in South but I’m sure there are more(Bloomington s?).  

Bottom line, whoever makes it will be 2 very good teams and will likely make for a great game.

On a separate note to  Mr Hook,  For the record, I think your son is every bit as valuable as Spiegel is  to New Pal.  He is fun to watch play. 

18 hours ago, Olympian06 said:

I think he already explained where the chirping came from, if you missed it...scroll up. 

Saying Dwenger was chirping because they said they will see New Pal next year in Indy is a HUGE stretch.   If Valpo or Michigan City or even North Side  wanted to take issue with it, that’s one thing but if Dwenger in fact said they will see New Pal next year, they are saying New Pal is so good, they will be in the State Finals. It would have been a compliment.   Nice try though.  

A friend of mine sent me this picture.  

I was told the visitor bleachers are up and the concrete is likely being poured today.  At latest next week.  

I have not seen the inside of the stadium so I can’t be for sure but it would seem to me, gold steps are the type of thing that would be completed towarss the end of the job.  

3 minutes ago, BTF said:

Did they not have the room to do better than 800 seats on the visiting side? That's going to hurt ticket sales when they play Snider, Homestead, Carroll, and Luers. It's a beautiful stadium and I'm happy for Dwenger, I just think it's going to hurt ticket sales for the big games.

They have the room but likely didn’t have the donations for the same size bleacher on visitor section.  When a larger crowd is expected, the plan is to bring in portable bleachers.  This according to a coach I spoke to.  

Duff likely will be very good.  Can’t say on Eley but he is tall, pretty athletic and competitive.  

My understanding is  Duff and Eley are both playing. 

I was told by a parent of a player who would know that the capacity  on the home side is 2800.   Away will be 800 or so with temporary bleachers  brought in for when larger crowds expected. 

Im excited to experience  what the atmosphere will be like.  

2 hours ago, XStar said:

If winning is all it's about to you, then you will never be convinced it's a good thing.  

If it’s not about winning, the need for a success factor doesn’t exist.  

The name success factor alone is absurd. Having success is “unfair” according to the rule.   The solution has been to regulate a team’s success.   It should be called the success quota.  

The solution, IMO, is longer cycles.  If you dominate for 5 years, ok move up.  school should never have to move up 2 class levels.   If you don’t win State, that’s not dominant success so you don’t move up and in order to move down, it’s the same point system.  In other words, to stay at one level higher, you need X amount of points(same as what it took to move up).  

10 hours ago, XStar said:

Maybe he's mixed up on the message.  Maybe it's not meant as a punishment for winning.  Maybe it's meant as a challenge to enable programs that master one level to continue to grow and get better?  That's how I've always viewed it. 

I've always wondered how much satisfaction a perennial power feels for continuing to roll to titles at the same level year after year rather than challenge themselves to achieve something greater but not as assured.  If you're Chatard and you've won approximately half the 3A titles over the past 20 years, do you not look forward to try doing something bigger and better that hasn't been accomplished with your program before?  Or is it more fulfilling to continue beating programs that you've already demonstrated yourself to be superior to?  

IMO, If this is really your stance then you have to apply it both ways.

In other words,  Why don’t you apply the same thought process to the school striving to win in their class level by beating the perennial powers?  To use your own words, challenge yourself to achieve something greater by beating the perennial power?  Look forward to beating these perennial powers as it will be so rewarding.   

Just saying