Bobref

18 minutes ago, mumm6866 said:

Sorry didn’t realize this was English class as I was just explaining the last 1:35 of game. My bad that some words are missing. Get a life if that worried about explanation as also typing from my phone which autocorrected a bunch to wrong words 

Ironic, isn’t it, that you’re criticizing the officiating crew for poor communication? 😂🤣😅

“Well let’s start with the refs weren’t not good..”

“it’s a reply of 2nd down”

“Laville takes another kneel“

“Andrean then runs our field goal“

“Andrean goes ape shit because didn’t understand as refs didn’t horrible job of last 1:35 of game“

If the referees were no better than the gibberish you wrote, they must have been very bad, indeed, Mr. Member.

Pioneer answers. Pioneer 8 North Judson 6. 11:57 of the 2nd.

North Judson strikes first. 6-0 over Pioneer. 4:37 of the 1st.

2 minutes ago, Irishman said:

Michael Layden, brother of Elmer

Elmer Layden was a long time figure in the insurance business in The Region,

Perhaps more trouble?
 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38696639/ncaa-investigating-no-2-michigan-amid-sign-stealing-allegations

NCAA investigating No. 2 Michigan amid sign-stealing allegations

The NCAA is investigating the No. 2 Michigan Wolverines football program amid allegations of sign stealing, the school announced Thursday.

"I want to personally assure you that U-M Athletics will offer its complete cooperation to the NCAA in this matter," athletic director Warde Manuel said in a statement. "At the University of Michigan, all of us are committed to the highest standards of ethics and integrity for all members of our community. This is the same expectation I have of all coaches, staff, and student-athletes."

The University of Michigan and the Big Ten were both notified by the NCAA of the investigation Wednesday, and the conference said it had notified the Wolverines' future opponents.

"The Big Ten Conference considers the integrity of competition to be of utmost importance and will continue to monitor the investigation," it said in a statement.

A source told ESPN's Adam Rittenberg that the NCAA's investigation also includes allegations of similar violations by Michigan before the 2022 season. Upcoming opponents have not expressed opposition to playing Michigan after being notified by the NCAA, sources told ESPN.

The NCAA does not have rules specifically against stealing signs but does prohibit in-person advance scouting of opponents and has bylaws prohibiting unsportsmanlike activities.

According to a report by Yahoo Sports, Michigan allegedly had people attending games of future opponents as well as possible College Football Playoff opponents to gather information on signs used to call plays on offense and defense.

A source confirmed to ESPN that in-person scouting is the focus of the NCAA investigation.

If true, the Wolverines would have violated NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which states: "Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited."

U.S. Integrity, a Las Vegas firm that monitors the betting market, sent out an alert to its sportsbook clients regarding the Michigan controversy Thursday, ESPN confirmed.

Multiple Big Ten coaches this offseason were advocates of exploring helmet communication as a way to generally better protect signs, a source told ESPN's Pete Thamel. Potential NCAA rule changes, however, were tabled until after this season.

The NFL has long used helmet communication for signals, with the first version limited to sideline communication in 1994.

Michigan (7-0) plays Michigan State on Saturday.

"We are chagrined by the news of the NCAA investigation and we echo the Big Ten Conference's commitment to integrity," Michigan State University interim president Teresa Woodruff said in a statement. "The allegations are concerning, but will be handled through the NCAA's processes."

In its statement, Michigan said the investigation would not impact the game.

Wolverines coach Jim Harbaugh has already served a university-imposed three-game suspension this season stemming from alleged recruiting violations during the COVID-19 dead period and for not cooperating with NCAA investigators.

Michigan still is facing four Level II violations, which are considered less serious, from those alleged violations. That ruling from the NCAA is not expected until 2024.

5 minutes ago, temptation said:

Yep.  Every fan base has em.

Lifting my ND hatred ban one more time this fall.

Dabo is whining again…shut him up.

Agreed. ND’s “Subway Alumni” make these people look like rank amateurs.

And there is nothing like wiping that smarmy, self-righteous smirk off Dabo’s face. It’ll be a pleasure.

28 minutes ago, Bash Riprock said:

Not sure that is totally reserved for the south.....WalMart Wolverines...Pure Michigan

 

OK, now even @temptationhas to admit that’s funny.

They talk some serious trash in the SEC. This is from the Facebook page of “Dawgnation.” But, is it a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
 

On this day in 1924, at the famed Polo Grounds in New York one of the most iconic groups in the early 20th century happened. This group lead the Irish to a 13-7 victory over a tremendous Army team. After the game famed sportswriter Grantland Rice wrote in the New York Herald-Tribune one of the most iconic articles in sports:

‘Outlined against a blue, gray October sky the Four Horsemen rode again.
In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases. Their real names are: Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds this afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down upon the bewildering panorama spread out upon the green plain below.’
 

The legend of the Four Horsemen was born.

2 hours ago, olinecoach said:

With the new enforcement rules of spot of foul vs LOS, is it still possible to have a safety occur when a holding penalty on the offense occurs in the endzone?

Example: Team A has the ball on their own 2 yard line. As they drop back to pass, the left tackle ends up in the endzone and holds team B. Because this foul would be enforced from the line of scrimmage and not spot of foul now, would it still result in a safety or would it be half the distance and replay the down?

The short answer to your question is that the new rule has not changed the spot of enforcement on a foul in your own end zone. Still a safety.

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

what's the difference between losing round one and round four

3 weeks?

5 hours ago, Coach Nowlin said:

What is the official rule on the now famous "TUSH PUSH". 

You know the QB Sneak with Rugby scrum behind the QB to push forward that seems to be all the rage now 

@Bobref

Foul.

2 hours ago, temptation said:

I’m more of a fan of this one…

https://youtu.be/IGS2ti_NQhA?si=a5n7f1hMSjpeBe9V

It doesn’t have the comedic value.

It’s been 8 years, and this is still my 2nd favorite college football play of all time.

8 hours ago, Irishman said:

Will your Bears still pick him? 🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞🙏😁😎

I sure hope not.

On 10/13/2023 at 1:55 PM, Coach Nowlin said:

  I have personally spoken with the esteemed sir, @Bobref MANY TIMES over live and in person, he was there when I almost lost my eye ball at Gary Wirt in 2009 (what a halloween party going in and around our locker room that night too btw)

Remember that night well. We dressed in the storage room where the band kept its instruments. As we were getting ready, some band kids walked in to pick up their stuff. I’m pretty sure most of them have completed the necessary psychotherapy by now.

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

As much as I hate Note Dame I'm pulling for Marcus Freeman. I guess I enjoyed seeing ND take down Troy.

The one knock I keep hearing on Caleb Williams is that his ability to make plays diminishes against good defenses and he'll end up hurting you. Was last night a red flag game? He had some awful INT's and decision making in general.

If you put money on him in Vegas to win the Heisman, you’re kicking yourself. He went from -110 to +2200 overnight. Might be worth a flier at that price.

Our blood enemies have been vanquished. Always nice to send those punks back to La La Land with their tails tucked between their legs. Now, use this as a springboard to finish the season strong. We’ve got several items on the agenda, and the one I am most looking forward to is wiping that smug expression off Dabo’s face in a few weeks.

1 hour ago, PHJIrish said:

Nice first half for the Irish!  I just hope Anthony Davis doesn't show up for the Trojans in the 2nd half.😉

I bet most of the people reading this don’t know what you’re talking about. … But I do.

My “oh my” team of the week is 3A Hanover Central. They moved to a new conference this year, clearly stepping up a level in competition. Nevertheless, they blew through an undefeated conference schedule and last Friday completed a perfect 9-0 regular season.

13 minutes ago, HHCFinebaum said:

Just cause BNL got conservative and cause the refs were so unfair and making calls at the worst times tho! 

I mean, east was digging so deep in their playbook. It was crazy

The BNL fans should’ve been rude in the way out to the Olympian’s fans cause the refs were so bad, I can’t believe they weren’t 

they were in the right 

Although most of this post was incoherent, I gather you felt the officiating left something to be desired. Can you be more specific? I likely can get access to the game video, and can look at a play or plays, if you can specifically point to them.

2 hours ago, gindie said:

Another interesting period for the officials is 1:20:00 through 1:28:00 in the above video.  The game was delayed and the Elkhart coach got mad.

So, what happened here is easily explained, it turns out. After an administrative stoppage, the play clock is set at 0:25 and starts on the R’s ready for play signal. The linesman had not yet gotten to his position on the visiting sideline, so the R had not yet signaled the ball ready. Elkhart ran up to the line in a hurry to try and draw New Prairie into the neutral zone, and it worked. But since the ball had not been made ready for play, there was no foul. The R was yelling to the QB “wait, wait” but they started to run the play anyway. So, no foul. The U should not have moved off the ball until all crew members were in position.

1 hour ago, gindie said:

Another interesting period for the officials is 1:20:00 through 1:28:00 in the above video.  The game was delayed and the Elkhart coach got mad.

Apparently, someone from the stands was shining a laser on the field. I’ve had it happen before. The more interesting development is the flag that was thrown for defensive encroachment, and then, apparently picked up, once they resumed play. I can’t figure out what happened. There is actually a potential foul on the offense for a false start by the man going in motion. Pretty obvious that the intent of the play was to cause the defense to encroach. But they didn’t enforce a penalty on the offense either. I actually know this Referee. I’ll see if I can find out more.

One thing: the Elkhart head coach is lucky he’s not on the phone with the IHSAA explaining why he got an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. He might be upset, but he can’t be out at the numbers complaining to the officials. They gave him an awful lot of leeway.