Bobref

12 minutes ago, FastpacedO said:

I believe I was there for a Lowell vs FW Dwenger game that you officiated once. Was a heck of a game.

Oh yes, the 2007 semistate, won by Lowell on a field goal with about 30 sec. left, 10-7. I was never so glad to see a game not go into overtime … One of my favorite games of all time.

1 hour ago, Whiting89 said:

South lake county not up with the times good for them just 20 years late 

I officiated a lot of big games in The Inferno. Great atmosphere. But by November, that field was hard as a rock. Very tough on the feet.

On 11/11/2023 at 8:56 AM, Boilernation said:

The Merrillville DB who broke up the final play in the EZ deserves as many helmet stickers as possible. It looked like a Valpo TD as time expired before the Pirate DB hit the Valpo WR and broke up the pass. 

On 11/11/2023 at 8:47 PM, Bobref said:

I have seen the Hudl video. Sorry to have to say, but the play by that DB was actually a foul for unnecessary roughness against a defenseless receiver. Since time expired during the down, there should have been an untimed down after half the distance enforcement.

Here’s a different angle on the play at 1:33 of the video. Definitely a foul.

We are 3 1/2 weeks into this thing, and I have more questions than answers. Right off the top of my head:

1. What was Conor Stalion’s actual job description at Michigan? To whom did he report?
2. Where did the $$ come from to cover the cost of the “advance scouting?” The number I heard was tickets to 30 games, plus travel expenses.
3. What happened to Stalion’s work product containing the information obtained through “advance scouting?”
4. Has the allegation of a connection between Ryan Day and the private investigators who supplied the NCAA with evidence been conclusively debunked?
5. If Ryan Day was not the instigator of the “investigation,” who was?

Anyone have information on these issues?

How do you improve on perfection?

WHME 46 Sports is reporting head football coach Romison St. Louis has been relieved of his duties at Elkhart. 

“BREAKING: Romison Saint-Louis has been removed as Elkhart Lions football coach after just two seasons.

Saint-Louis told me administrators felt the program wasn’t going in the right direction. He was 10-10 in two seasons, but he is proud of the team GPA rising from 2.56 to 2.95.”

7 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

if you knew anything about Russ Radkte, you'll know the Redskins will walk onto Chatards field with likely no fear in their minds.

Oh, they’ll have some fear, alright. But it won’t be fear of Chatard. It will be fear of Coach Radtke.

1 minute ago, FastpacedO said:

There are plenty of mountains at Twin Peaks, Tilted Kilt, and Hooters.

There’s a Twin Peaks opening up here in a couple of months. Never heard of it before that. What can I expect?

Bill Sharpe

4 hours ago, psaboy said:

One concern I have is Snider's secondary now after Mishawaka passed for over 300 yards.

Many of those yards came on big chunk plays, as a result of Snider DBs peeking into the backfield and Mishawaka throwing over the top on play action.

15 minutes ago, RocksFan23 said:

Always a great time going to games in the Region. Westfield wins 28-14. Any recommendations for lunch in Crown Point? Good spots on the Square? Heard One13North is good but anywhere with good burgers/beer.

If you like Mexican, try Ricochet Tacos on the SW corner of the Square.

https://ricochettacos.com/crown-point-menu/

1 hour ago, Boilernation said:

Here's the link from Region Sports. Go to the 2:57 mark. I slowed down the speed and took the attached screenshot. #4 for Merrillville was already in position to make a playon the ball just as the Valpo WR caught the ball. It's hard to tell fromt the angle if the Pirate defender only hit the hands/arm/ball or the helmet of the WR as well. 
 

Would you still consider it a foul if he didn't hit the WR's helmet? 

https://www.ihsaatv.org/regionsports/?B=744109

I looked at the play again, and didn’t see anything different. The key here is that the receiver is, by definition, defenseless. That means any forcible contact against him, whether it involves the helmet or not, must fall into 1 of 3 categories, or it’s a foul for unnecessary roughness. The 3 categories of legal forcible contact are:

1. Contact occurring during a legitimate attempt to make a play on the ball.
2. Contact initiated with open hands and both arms extended.
3. Contact occurring in the course of a tackle, where the defender wraps both arms around the receiver.

In my opinion — and I stand ready to be corrected if a different angle shows otherwise — this is forcible contact against a defenseless receiver that doesn’t fall into any of the 3 categories of legal contact. Therefore, it’s a foul.

On 11/12/2023 at 8:16 AM, Bobref said:

 

14 minutes ago, Cappy said:

What is the rule when breaking the huddle with more than 11 players. If I am interpreting what I read correctly, as long as the replaced player(s) run straight off the field there is no foul? What would make this a foul? I've read a 3-5 second allowance is sometimes used.  Also if a no huddle team subs and the replaced players do not get directly off the field does that become a foul at some point prior to the ball being snapped? This is more for my own curiosity, not really anything I have seen. TIA 

It is not a foul to break the huddle with more than 11 players under the high school code. The substitution rule requires that a player who is being replaced begin to leave the field within 3 seconds of being replaced. He is considered as having been replaced when the incoming substitute gets to the huddle, assumes a position in the formation, or communicates with a teammate. If the replaced player fails to do so, it’s a dead ball illegal substitution foul, 5 yds. If the replaced player begins to leave timely, but doesn’t get off the field in time, it’s a live ball illegal substitution foul, also 5 yds.

7 minutes ago, Boilernation said:

Can you share the link to the HUDL video you’re referencing? 

Unfortunately, I can’t. You need a Hudl account. If you have one, I can share it with you. But there was a clip from the live stream on the Indiana High School Football Fans Facebook page that shows it well enough. I’ll try to find it. The person who posted that clip was extolling the virtues of the DB who dealt out the “big hit.” Unfortunately, those Sports Center hits on defenseless receivers are fouls at the high school level.

11 hours ago, Boilernation said:

The Merrillville DB who broke up the final play in the EZ deserves as many helmet stickers as possible. It looked like a Valpo TD as time expired before the Pirate DB hit the Valpo WR and broke up the pass. 

I have seen the Hudl video. Sorry to have to say, but the play by that DB was actually a foul for unnecessary roughness against a defenseless receiver. Since time expired during the down, there should have been an untimed down after half the distance enforcement.

2 hours ago, temptation said:

32 straight runs….

Gonna make it kind of difficult to argue at the TRO hearing that the head coaches’ absence on game day causes “irreparable injury,” requiring an injunction.

20 minutes ago, Justasportsfan said:

Their kicker hit big kicks last night..one being from 37 yds out..ik he missed an xp n they went for two rather than attempting to tie yet mathematically speaking it made sense..his kick with under a min left was clutch..

After he skulled that kick try, I was shocked when he drilled that field goal in the last minute to give them the lead.

1 minute ago, CountryClubCowboy3 said:

YEE.YEE..YEE...

Looks like a good jam to Ole C3

Triple looked hard in the rulebook today,

Nowhere did he find that the defensive play must get out of the way.

For all you professionals, it shouldn't be a shocker,

There was no questionable contact, after the receiver wasn't a potential blocker.  (He's pushing him away)

Offense, Offense that's all we seek.

Good luck to the Pat's, in their battle next week

Benny and the Jett, had too much fight.

See you all next year, Triple C out, good night.

 

 

You’re a better poet than you are an official. 🤣

4 hours ago, Trojan12 said:

I would agree that you couldn't really tell on the livestream. Batesville's head coach during his post-game comments mentioned it was a pick play with the receiver blocking the DB down field. The DB grabbed him to try to get through the pick to go cover his guy. Batesville's coach called it a mistake by the officials and should been an offensive pass interference.

This is why you don’t go to coaches for your rules information.

First, and most obviously, one of the requirements for offensive pass interference is that there actually be a legal forward pass during the down … which there obviously wasn’t here. So, not throwing the flag for OPI was not a “mistake by the officials.”

Secondly, the video I saw showed the receiver and the DB lock up initially when the receiver came out to block/pick him. But contrary to what you quoted the Coach as saying, the DB was not attempting to fight through the pick. After the initial contact, the receiver tried to run past the DB, who grabbed and restricted him as he was trying to run past him. That video supports the “garbage call.”

If either team shares their Hudl video with the IFOA, I’ll make it a point to look at the play.

1 hour ago, BTF said:

The first one on Snider. Was is celebration or something else?

There were no unsportsmanlike conduct fouls on either team, which would include a foul for excessive celebration. There were several personal fouls, all of them for late hits, except one for an illegal block below the waist, and one for targeting.

14 minutes ago, BTF said:

What were your thoughts on the personal fouls? I believe there were about four. There was one on Snider as the players were leaving the field. Was that for celebration? The replay didn't show anything. And if Brandon Logan's baseball career doesn't pan out, I'm thinking he could try for Hollywood. Certainly you saw that one. 

I discussed each of those fouls with the crew in the postgame debrief. I thought the crew was spot on with all of them. As good an officiating performance as I’ve seen this year.

22 minutes ago, Coffin K9 said:

Defensive holding. Absolute garbage call!!!! Is what it is, but it killed us. 

Can you tell me at what point in the game the “garbage call” occurred?