Bobref

2 minutes ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Bcaster said if Chatard goes up 35-0, it will start the running clock?

I thought I have seen it said previously that the IHSAA wouldnt allow the running clock during the finals?

@Bobref any idea? Hopefully we dont find out. Rough day for HH. We have had our chances though.

No running clock in the Finals.

3 minutes ago, ArmyVet80 said:

@BobrefBobref are you at the 3A game? If so, do you know anything about the "ref" on the south side behind the endzone in the stands? He is about 4 rows in front of me. Dressed like a ref and even has a yellow flag he throws. 🤷‍♂️ seems like a nice guy.  😁

Just now, JQWL said:

That guy has been there the past 2 years at least. Does a great job. Never misses a call.

Yes, he's a permanent fixture at the finals. He is not in any way affiliated with officiating. Between you and me, it seems like his stairs don't go all the way to the top.

Really nice catch by the Umpire on the blindside block on the Chatard interception return. 

1 hour ago, Yuccaguy said:

Great job by the 1A crew, IMO!  At this point of the tournament if we have "officials in the stands" that know .ore than those on the field.... good luck!

No one is going to be perfect.  But 1A was damned close!  Wonderful 

They had a very nice game.

2 minutes ago, Bobref said:

Let’s see how the crew handles the upcoming onside kick.

Good no call on a potential illegal pop up kick.

Let’s see how the crew handles the upcoming onside kick.

 I don’t know what the AC fans are booing about. That was only a sideline warning: first warning = no distance penalty. And it was definitely the right call.

43 minutes ago, refabee said:

Seems to be 7 officials on this 1A game. They always you can see better from the stands.

Just another officiating groupie.

8:06 of the 2nd period in the 1A game. That linesman did a heck of a job hustling to the pylon on the AC touchdown pass. Ball was snapped at the 13 or so. Not easy to read and react that quickly. Nice goal line mechanics.

Just now, Grover said:

Don't let anybody get behind you.

Don't let anybody get behind you.

Don't let anybody get behind you.

They are going to pick on that corner until he shows them he can play.

AC punts and Lutheran with another fast drive to make it 14-7.

And Lutheran hits the bomb and ties it up 55 sec. later. 7-7

AC strikes first with a long drive eating up half of the first period. 7-0.

At the finals, there are always 6 officials in uniform, although only a 5 man crew works the game. The alternate is used if anyone goes down during the game. The alternate also serves as the 6th official on any scoring kicks, going under the crossbar with the back judge, so that both wing officials can maintain their positions on the line of scrimmage. For the first time this year, the IHSAA mandated the use of an alternate at the Regionals and Semistate, in addition to the State Finals. Also, for the first time this year, the crews are allowed to choose their own alternate (within limitations). Previously, the crew was stuck with whomever the IHSAA decided to designate as the alternate official. The present system is a big improvement. True story: I worked the Penn - Warren Central final in 2003, and my linesman went down late in the first quarter with a pulled hamstring. We had to work 3/4 of the game with the alternate official, whom we had laid eyes on for the first time about an hour before kickoff. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your point of view), the game was not close.

2 hours ago, temptation said:

I remember one year a team from the state to our east won the national title with a third string QB.

Soxeone wins those big Powerball jackpots, too. But that's not xuch of a financial plan. Anyway, if you think FSU is still one of the 4 best teaxs in the country, put 'ex in. But if they're not, don't. Participation in the CFP is not a reward. It's a tournaxent, an invitational. The 4 best teaxs should be invited. Next year, 12.

1 hour ago, temptation said:

an undefeated FSU should still get in the playoff

We’re trying to determine a champion here. An undefeated FSU with a QB who has one foot facing backwards is not one of the 4 best teams in college football.

3 minutes ago, temptation said:

You know predictions have zero impact on the actual contest correct?

Except when I make them. The proverbial “Kiss of Death.”

7 hours ago, JustRules said:

We have 6 very good crews working in the finals this weekend. 2 are working their 4th state final and 2 are working their 2nd. The other two are considered new crews, but most members on both crews have worked a state final with a different crew chief. This doesn't mean they'll get every call 100% right, but there is a good chance they will have excellent games. Looking forward to seeing all of them work.

All 6 of the crews working this year’s State Finals are crew members of the Indiana Football Officials Association. That is by no means an accident.

5 hours ago, gindie said:

The running clock is not used in the finals.  But, I'm wondering if that should also be the case for the Semi State (and possibly Regional) round?    Thoughts?

The only reason it is not used in the Finals is that, for TV scheduling reasons, they don’t want a game to end early. Has nothing to do with competitiveness. 

This thread is intended to embrace all things officiating related to the Finals. Among the more obvious topics are:

1. Any special rules or procedures in effect for the Finals.
2. Questions or observations on rules or situations that may come into play, based on the teams involved, their tendencies, style of play, etc.
3. In-game, post-game, or between game questions about rules, a specific play, etc.
4. Observations by officials in-game, pointing out things that non-officials might not notice, or be aware of.

I’ll be in the pressbox or on the field most of the weekend, and will post from there.

Fans, here’s your chance for live action venting about officiating issues that arise, or have arisen with your team in the past. 

2 hours ago, hhpatriot04 said:

Away team is responsible for having jerseys which contrast the home team, I believe.  Queue @Bobref to clarify...

Visitors wear white. Home team dark. No choices.

2 hours ago, US31 said:

Can't agree more....this is beyond stupid.

"Congratulations on building a program at a small public school that is on the cusp of winning a state title.  We are now going to bump you up a class even though you haven't won that title." Sincerely, hugs ang kisses, the IHSAA

I think you’re missing it. As I read your post, you don’t object to the concept of the SF. Rather, it’s the definition of “success” that you find “beyond stupid.” Am I reading that correctly?

19 hours ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

Personally, I say either cut down the number of teams that make the tournament each year or seed the tournament. 

both … and

32 minutes ago, gindie said:

What a mess in California!

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1290871198258972

You will note that, at the end of the game, the Referee will hold the ball over his head. When he does that, the game is over. The officials retain jurisdiction to perform certain administrative responsibilities, and can even retroactively disqualify a player or coach, if warranted. But they can’t reverse a no-call, come back out on the field, and play another down. 

1 hour ago, BLACKGOLD2007 said:

@Bobref in your opinion is this likely to be a defensive game or wide open offensive shootout like the Snider v New Pal game?

I don’t see either team sustaining multiple long drives. Both teams have legitimate home run hitters, however.