Footballking16

Why in the hell would Ole Miss be slighted? They’re 4-5 and don’t deserve to be in a bowl game to begin with. And since when is the bowl selection process based on composite recruiting rankings??? Your fascination with high school rankings are well...fascinating. Games are played on the field and results do and SHOULD be the only thing that matters. If games were decided on recruiting rankings IU would have finished 1-6 this year, not 6-1.

Just a travesty all around. Shouldn’t be this upset because I knew three weeks ago this would happen when the committee didn’t move IU an inch after beating ranked Wisconsin on the road....with a backup QB, but this is wrong on so many levels. Shame on the CFB committee and even bigger shame on the B10. The B10’s idiotic decision to delay the start of the season was compounded even further by their even dumber decision to enact a 21 day sit period for all positive cases. The only logical reason why I can see IU getting the shaft on a NY6 bowl is due to the fact they only played 7 games. There’s absolutely ZERO reason why Georgia or Iowa State deserve to be ranked ahead of IU other than the fact they played more games than Indiana. Because God knows their resumes aren’t better. IU will be more than motivated to play this game and I expect them to beat the living piss out of Ole Miss.

Embracing and expecting it.

Indiana, Coastal Carolina, teams that were snubbed NY6 Bowls to teams with 3 losses.

Unless you’re Iowa State or Florida....

I could just as easily make the case that IU’s 35-7 deficit was as much self-inflicted as it was Ohio State. On 4th and 2 early in the 2nd quarter, IU dropped a crossing route inside OSU territory that would have set up 1st and 10 inside the red zone. Ohio State then went on to score to take a 2 TD lead. Trailing 21-7 late in the second half, IU’s receiver catches a pass in stride inside OSU’s 10 yard line, runs into the referee and fumbles. Instead of the score being 21-14 at half, OSU goes down the field to extend the lead to 28-7. I don’t buy for one notion that OSU let off the gas. IU figured it out how to get to Fields and bothered him all afternoon. IU realized they could bully OSU’s DB’s up and down the field.

At peace with the B10's decision. Ohio State did beat us head to head and they deserve to represent the East. Only thing that irks me is that had the roles been reversed and it was IU sitting at 5-0 and Ohio State 6-1 you know there's not a chance in hell there's even a discussion about amending the rules.

Maybe we can put a "C" on there?

If its a popularity contest, why is a 2 loss Iowa State ranked 7th? If that was the case, they wouldn't be ranked in the top 20, let alone 7th. If its a popularity contest, an undefeated Cincinnati team would be ranked somewhere around 15th just like every other G5 in years past. If its a popularity contest, they somehow would have found a way to put a 4-0 USC team, starving for needed national attention, in the top 8.

Has Georgia beaten anyone GOOD? Miami?

For a program like Indiana? Absolutely. A top 10 ranking gets IU a NY6 Bowl and would be monumental for the program going forward. I'm not arguing nor think IU deserves to be in discussion for the actual 4 team playoff, but they are getting absolutely shafted right now. Beating Wisconsin on the road and not moving up a spot is ridiculous.

Iowa State?

What’s the justification for Georgia being 9? They beat two top 25 teams (who aren’t currently ranked) and have been blown out against any real competition. Usually when you beat a top 25 team, they drop. I don’t get how Northwestern beats Wisconsin and jumps 11 spots and then IU beats Wisconsin at Wisconsin with a backup a QB and doesn’t move an inch while Wisconsin drops completely out? There’s no rhyme or reason to any of their justifications.

Not sure it matters if OSU wins the B10 or not. OSU is getting into the CFB as long as they have a zero in the loss column. One could argue that Iowa is a better game right now than Northwestern. Why not just let IU/NW play in the B10 championship based on the rules agreed to in the beginning of the year? And while we’re on the talk of the CFB, what is the love for the Big 12? Iowa State at 7 with two losses is laughable. CFB head of committed cited IU’s lack of wins against the top 25 as a reason for no movement? Dude, they’ve knocked 3 teams out of the top 25 this year. Alabama and....IU are the only two teams college football this year to beat at least 3 teams in the top 25. Selection committee is keeping Oklahoma alive in the event Clemson loses to ND.

This is theoretically IU's best recruiting class of al-time in terms of average raw talent. Yes, the class doesn't rank well on the national scene because it currently only has 13 commits, but IU only loses 14 seniors this year that technically have a another eligibility if they want. But this is the deepest IU team I've ever seen and that speaks to Allen. Not many teams go into Madison and win very often, let alone with a back up QB down two offensive lineman.

This isn't a culmination of a few weeks. This has been a decade in the making ever since IU started making legitimate financial contributions to its football program right around the beginning of the Fred Glass era. While Kevin Wilson was never the long term answer, he moved IU from B10 cellar to at least competitive. He paved the way for Tom Allen who has completely changed the IU football culture. And while I don't think IU will win 7-8 conference games a year consistently, they've overtaken Purdue.

You don't really believe that do you? IU won 8 games last year (and likely to duplicate it again in a shortened year) and is building national momentum. Purdue fans couldn't stop crowing about who good they were going to be this year with a two-headed monster at wideout and an improved OL. Coupled with arguably the easiest schedule in the B10, just about every Purdue fan I knew couldn't talking about how the West went through Lafayette. Well Purdue is 2-4 and avoided their toughest game against Wisconsin. And records probably aren't even the biggest concern. It's the overall demeanor and culture. Jeff Brohm looks absolutely lost on the sideline. His team plays with zero emotion, guys are opting out left and right, and are extremely undisciplined. Curious as to why you think next year will be any better for Purdue. They most certainly lose Rondale and while GK and Bell are terrific individual talents, the lack of development across the board is staggering. It's almost non-existent. Jeff Brohm, the QB whisperer and offensive genius has yet to recruit and develop a QB and his play-calling is downright inept. Heads are starting to roll in West Lafayette and as it stands now, Brohm has no control over his program. On the other hand, IU is slated to return 75% of it's 2 deep (theoretically everyone could return given its a free year) and will be a top 15,20 ranked team going into next year. What are your serious expectations for Purdue next year? Going .500? Unless the OOC schedule is very favorable (I don't know) I don't see it.

Wait and see more than fair. But the gap between Indiana and UM/Penn State is a lot closer than the gap between UM/Penn State and Ohio State. With heads rolling in Ann Arbor and Happy Valley, Indiana has the potential to close the gap even more if they can keep the momentum. I don’t ever expect IU to routinely beat those two, but don’t think this year is an aberration.

I don’t think anyone is going to argue that McCulley isn’t the more talented player with more potential at the next level and beyond, but if the award is supposed to go to the senior that played the QB position the best in 2020, it’s McCahill and it’s not really close.

McCahill didn’t even win the QB award???

9-10 over the top but don’t see why going 8-9 every year is out of the question? Assuming their non-conference schedule doesn’t beef up that’s been 3 easy wins. I think IU will be better than Maryland and Rutgers for the foreseeable future and not sold on MSU either. There’s 5-6 right there. Purdue and IU are going in opposite directions as programs and depending on the other two cross-over games, I think 8-9 is realistic even if they lose to the Big 3 every year.

Don't like complaining on these types of things but curious how Jackson Schott (who is a very good player) makes it as a DB when he played LB all year? Zane Hill and his 9 interceptions not making top 50 is a bit of a head scratcher.

No one remembers it yet we devote 20-30 threads a year right around the state finals rehashing the same unoriginal material year after year? Got it.

Small classes. IU has 13 commits as does Purdue and the rest of these schools have ~20. IU's average recruit rank is 86.86 per the composite which would rank 7th. But class rankings, especially 247, is built on quantity not quality. IU does have a Florida State transfer who is immediately eligible that was a 5 star ranked 48th overall in the 2017 class that doesn't factor into the recruiting rankings. If we're getting technical, this is IU's best recruiting class of all-time based on the average rating of each player.

I can see that being excuse in years 1 and 2, but fact of the matter is that Brohm was better with players from a coach "who couldn't attract flies". Brohm is about to enter year 5 and is regressing. His first full cycle of recruits are seniors. Recruiting talent hasn't been Brohm's issues, it's developing said talent that is a glaring weakness. Moore, Bell, Karlaftis are all-world talents that were college reasy from day 1, but the rest have been significantly held back by Brohm inability to develop them.