Punttheball

Rochester isn’t leaving the TRC.

Nah!! It is just a case of Southwood and Northfield want to keep their identity and nobody likes Wabash.

Southwood and Northfield don't want to merge! Heck they already bought land to do it and then voted it down. And nobody wants to merge with Wabash! This just isn't happening.

Not in the next 20 years.

The merge was voted down again. I'm not sure what is going to happen there. If they ever happened to get this merge done, I see a team like Lewis Cass being an option to jump to the TRC.

Does anyone know if this event is still on? There was an email that went out, but I believe they do not have a coach right now. Any information would help.

So I called the Sheraton to make a reservation for the clinic. The hotel acts like they don't even know there is a clinic going on that weekend. No rooms available. I'm ok with that. But does the IFCA no longer have a block of rooms that can be reserved for the clinic? The agenda was just released recently and the rooms are all gone. Maybe there is another event scheduled and rooms are taken.

Exactly coach! I know there were a couple schools that had coaches at the National Wing-t clinic this year and could not attend as head coaches, but made sure they had representation as a staff and school. You make a great point about representing even if you have not nominated a player.

You should get Mike Johnson to speak. It would give you a wing-t representation. Brett Colby would be awesome also for a double wing rep. It is a great lineup either way. Thanks coach.

I know that Region 4 honors those guys that have accepted Div. 1 offers and will not play in the game. They do not make a position on the team generally. It was emphasized this past nomination period that no kid should be put up for the Region All-Star team that was not willing to play in the game. So, is it really the best representation of talent for the region? There are players that make the region team that are on 1-9, 2-8, 0-10 teams. There are teams that get no representation because kids cannot play in the North/South Game for whatever reason. But the chances of getting selected to that game are low anyway. So the IFCA elects to recognize players at the region level that may have no business playing in the game. This is the dilemma coaches face, and they must answer questions brought up by their parents and stakeholders about why their school has no representation. It is tough.

We will find out for sure. He struggled with the exception of a couple years at North Central. He had a losing record there and a couple 1 win seasons if I recall correctly.

In 1994, there was a Hispanic/Latino presence on the team. I specifically remember Tony Gonzalez playing D tackle. I think the Andreisen(sp?) kid was a freshmen. He went on to be a part of the State team in 1997. I cannot speak to the numbers in the school at the time, but I am not sure Race/Ethnicity is a problem. The free and reduced number is everywhere, so not sure that can be the problem either. Maybe a combination of things.

No, but from past experience, I am guessing the dates will be June 12-15 and June 19-22. They do not always get these dates out very early. It does make it difficult to plan in the summer.

Who is going the first week and who is going the second week?

The point is...if that slot receiver declares as being on the line of scrimmage and is covered. This makes him ineligible..if he is allowed to go out for a pass, it certainly affects coverages and assignments. If there is a flexed TE and a receiver flanking him on his outside that declares on as does the TE, our defensive backfield would communicate to each other that the TE is dead. We would ignore him if he went out for a pass. We would expect the crew to recognize that also, but it gets by many officials. It is probably not a great place to talk about this or these situations because there are so many scenarios that could happen. I'm not sure that I am expressing myself well enough in the post.

You are correct. I was bringing up two different situations. It was more of a reply directly to Bobref because of the nitpicking comment as if neither situation was something of importance to the crews anymore. Each instance though is happening more and more without recognition from sideline refs. Covered up TEs are going out for passes more and more. END OF SITUATION! And 5 men in the backfield is going uncalled more and more. END OF SITUATION. In my opinion, not emphasizing these calls compromises the defenses more than it seems to appear to those in the refereeing world. Are these both situations in which crews are being told not to nitpick about? Or is one less important to crews than the other? Because they are both important to coaches.

I can appreciate that. If a slot receiver has put his arm back and is still a questionable covered receiver, I am ok with. The defense can identify him as an eligible receiver because of his declaration. What I am referring to is covering a TE up and the TE going down field for a pass. There are teams that do this repeatedly and it is very difficult to get it recognized and called. It can even be brought up in the pregame meeting with the officials. Bob, is 5 in the backfield treated the same? I have seen repeated plays where the SE declares he is off and four other players are clearly off the line and it is not called or caught by the officials.

I think we are different pages.

What are you talking about? It was not pointed out earlier in the thread that it is called that way in the NFL and NCAA. Bob pointed out that "our officials are told not to nitpick". I assume since the thread is about high school football, he is referring to high school refs when he says "our". The rules for covered and uncovered are a different animal in the NFL. Not apples to apples.

I get it because I know who your boss is. But it is a big deal to coaches.

Honestly, this is a terrible answer. Defensive coordinators set coverages and defenses based on formations and receivers. It is important to identify ineligible receivers as a defense. This is why a covered TE is allowed to go down field and catch passes. Shouldn't 5 men in the backfield be important? It is terrible on so many levels. You are allowing the possibility of 6 eligible receivers! I'm guessing that if you are not "nitpicking" on vs. off then you don't care if teams have 5 ineligible numbers on the field either? Officials are more worried about the sidelines, if they are being observed, reading the scripted card before the game, if the balls have enough air in them, are they the correct balls, then applying simple on the field basic rules! I already know your reply will be something in line with not enough eyes, or we do what Mr. Faulkens says, or go to the IFCA, or there is already a shortage of officials "and guys like you are why!" This is bad to me.

1. Trojanmp52 has a good point. It is done at every other level. It cannot be that hard. 2. Don't see it as a priority. 3. Impartial-the inconsistency is in the statement Trajanmp52 made. Some take the time to wait on the chains, and others do not. That sounds inconsistent to me. I would like to see covered up TE's and receivers recognized better by crews, and 5 men in the backfield. I think that these are two things that are missed in games on a consistent basis.

I'm sure it is a trickle down from colleges. I doubt the kids know anyone cares about how it is worded. But I'm pretty sure transfer by definition means to move from one place to another.

His family is either moving or there has been a family situation that has changed. Either way, the term transferring is correct. What other term would you suggest?

It didn't take long for the conversation to go there. Do you even know if the Coach nominated him for the Top 5 Team?