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15 hours ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

Then for the love if all that is good and pure: what are you for then? Seems to me like we've reached the semantics portion of the conversation: it seems to me that the "success factor" and a "multiplier" are both "enrollment modification systems. The Iowa system would seem to fall in the "multiplier" camp: primarily because you are taking the schools enrollment and reducing it accord to their free and reduced population, I would assume by "multiplying" somehow? At least that's how I read the image that you posted. 

 

Perhaps “divisor” system would be more accurate. LOL

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3 hours ago, Titan32 said:

Perhaps “divisor” system would be more accurate. LOL

You'd still multiply to achieve that, but is that legitimately what your after?

Edit: btw, bravo everyone. My prediction of 4 pages or less has failed to materialize!

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15 hours ago, wabashalwaysfights said:

You'd still multiply to achieve that, but is that legitimately what your after?

Edit: btw, bravo everyone. My prediction of 4 pages or less has failed to materialize!

I'm ready to quit anytime.  It's comical how you act as if everyone else is ambiguous.  YES!  I would like to see a system in addition to the success factor similar to Iowa has put in place here in Indiana.  AND a few weeks to the success factor.  The success factor wasn't put in for the reasons you think.....as some sort of "on the field" measure of ALL institutions (schools and businesses).  It was put there as "something" to stop the bleeding (that's seen across the nation) that wouldn't get them sued.  What would you like to see done to fix the glaring issue?

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24 minutes ago, Titan32 said:

I'm ready to quit anytime.  It's comical how you act as if everyone else is ambiguous.  YES!  I would like to see a system in addition to the success factor similar to Iowa has put in place here in Indiana.  AND a few weeks to the success factor.  The success factor wasn't put in for the reasons you think.....as some sort of "on the field" measure of ALL institutions (schools and businesses).  It was put there as "something" to stop the bleeding (that's seen across the nation) that wouldn't get them sued.  What would you like to see done to fix the glaring issue?

Literally nothing as I think the success factor is more than adequate.  And it's not an act: I still don't see any concrete proof as to why some kind of multiplier is needed in addition to or in place of the success factor. I think even something like the Iowa system is making assumptions that, while may be at least logical in terms of the disadvantages posed by low socio-economic situations, don't need to be made when you have the ability to adjust based on on the field results.  As to why Indiana went to the success factor: it really doesn't matter what I think about the why - it is there now and at the end of the day it seems to work extremely well.

Ultimately, I don't think either of us is going to change our minds, here, so I agree it likely is time to call it a day amicably.  I made my 4 page prediction because I someone would cross over a line with the moderators, but all in all, I think the issue is just at an impasse, and that's okay.

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