Titan32

They don't really explain in the article how "rolling" success factor will work...that can mean a couple of different things to me.

I think taking a preferred walkon is great for some tweeners and not so good for others....it depends on many many factors. For example, I might try to persuade some kids to take the DII or NAIA money especially if the school is strong in a field of academic interest for the kid. Getting on the practice field for an FBS school and starting at an FBS school are two different ball games.....so it really depends on a kid's goals are what the right choice is. I am sure Clay made the right choice for him.

I'm with Screagle here...they had a great season given the depth of the conference last year. I have learned over the last dozen years or so that sometimes it's more about the depth of the field year over year.

I'm partial to the 3A all-state receiver in 2024 (number 10 on the receiver list)....those SIAC guys are "ok" I guess. 🙂

GS 2015-2016 had right at 30. This season's sophomores are very similar...low 30's.

I know the guy over Indiana works really hard to watch film and gather data....can you imagine rating the top 400 players in order!

Zing!

I agree there are probably many who do not know it exists...but it is free.

I don't see him in the prospect data base which means he hasn't filled out the form with prepredzone to be evaluated.

By Position: QB 1 Danny O’Neil 6'1" 185 QB Cathedral 7 Tyler Cherry 6'5" 210 QB Center Grove 24 DJ Gordon 6'1" 195 QB Park Tudor 34 Mason Reynolds 6'1" 190 QB Avon 42 Jace Stuckey 6'3" 175 QB Triton Central 50 Bryson Luter 6'0" 180 QB Lawrence Central 51 Bodie Derrer 6'3" 200 QB Hamilton Heights 54 Thomas Gotkowski 6'1" 185 QB Ben Davis 58 Scott Ballentine 6'0" 175 QB Andrean 74 Dontae Pope 6'1" 160 QB West Side 85 Tanner Boyd 5'11" 170 QB Gibson Southern 88 Cole Burton 6'0" 190 QB East Central 120 Malachi Allen 6'2" 215 QB Arsenal Technical 123 Ryan Zimmerman 6'6" 225 QB Guerin Catholic 128 Zander Brazel 6'0" 185 QB East Noble 130 Logan Ahaus 6'3" 205 QB Lawrenceburg 137 Adam Kunkel 5'10" 170 QB South Dearborn 139 Montez Jones 5'11" 175 QB Lawrence North 150 Brady Fisher 6'3" 200 QB Mishawaka 153 Owen Smith 6'1" 175 QB McCutcheon 157 Nikolas Schindler 6'2" 180 QB Jeffersonville 160 Nolan McCullough 6'2" 205 QB Penn 169 Brayden Clark 6'3" 185 QB Northridge 171 Jonny Sorensen 6'1" 175 QB Lake Central 176 Clay McClelland 6'1" 170 QB Charlestown 191 Jarrin Alley 6'2" 195 QB Bloomington South 192 Marshall Kmiecik 6'0" 180 QB New Prairie 207 Luke Murphy 5'11" 165 QB Zionsville 213 Derrick Santiago 6'0" 190 QB Bowman 222 Lucas Plummer 6'3" 180 QB LaVille 232 Sebastian Boswell 6'3" 210 QB Chesterton 264 Brock Riddle 6'3" 165 QB Greenwood 291 Tristan Robertson 6'1" 210 QB Floyd Central 314 Toryn Day 6'0" 170 QB John Adams 318 Braxton Birner 5'9" 160 QB Maconaquah By position RB: Rank Player Height Weight Position High School Commitment 10 Jaden Hart 6'0" 210 RB Michigan City 11 Josh Ringer 6'1" 190 RB East Central 15 Khobie Martin 6'0" 200 RB Fishers 21 Porter Rode 5'9" 195 RB Evansville Reitz Memorial 22 Grayson Thomas 6'0" 190 RB New Palestine 27 Xavier Williams 5'11" 215 RB Lake Central 39 Jalen Alexander 6'0" 185 RB Hamilton Southeastern 49 Glenn Patterson 5'10" 175 RB Lafayette Jefferson 55 Garrett Sherrell 5'8" 180 RB Brownsburg 69 Ray Crawford 5'10" 180 RB Triton Central 72 Teagan Bennett 5'9" 190 RB Lawrenceburg 93 Jayden Eagle 5'9" 190 RB Eastern 114 Cainen Northington 5'10" 160 RB Evansville North 134 Tate Keller 5'11" 175 RB Vincennes Lincoln 135 Evan Collins 5'10" 175 RB Portage 151 Thomas Lynch 5'8" 150 RB Our Lady Of Providence 163 Omarion Youghbor 6'1" 220 RB Gary West Side 167 Jalen Thomas 5'10" 160 RB Yorktown 175 McClain Miller 6'2" 210 RB Northridge 184 Ariyan Ballance 5'11" 180 RB Brownsburg 195 Michael Herren 5'10" 165 RB Gibson Southern 203 Braylen Gillard 6'2" 180 RB Franklin Central 204 Cameron Morrison 6'0" 190 RB Ben Davis 205 Javeoin Gills 6'0" 180 RB Merillville 206 Anthony Schuh RB Triton 208 Quentin Maahs 6'0" 165 RB Warsaw 218 Robert Nabieu 5'10" 175 RB South Bend Riley 220 Brayton Belcher 6'2" 190 RB Monrovia 231 Uriah Buchanan 5'11" 175 RB Snider 238 Jaiven Sharp 5'9" 165 RB Elkhart 260 Darrian Story 5'11" 200 RB Kokomo 287 Keegan Ellis 6'3" 210 RB Carroll (Flora) 301 Alex Deming 5'10" 200 RB Rochester 302 Sawyer Guillaume 5'10" 170 RB Perry Central 316 Aaron Hogan 5'9" 145 RB South Central By Position WR: Braunte Johnson 6'3" 170 WR North Side 3 NiTareon Tuggle 6'3" 180 WR Northwood 5 Mylan Graham 6'1" 175 WR New Haven 16 Donovan Hamilton 6'4" 190 WR Hamilton Southeastern 20 Patrick Clacks 6'2" 175 WR Andrean 31 Corey Smith 6'2" 160 WR Brownsburg 32 Terrell Caldwell 5'10" 165 WR Calumet New Tech 56 Noah Coy 5'10" 175 WR Center Grove 60 Nick Witte 6'4" 190 WR Lapel 62 Sean DeLong 5'9" 180 WR Gibson Southern 66 Hayden Summers 6'2" 170 WR F.J. Reitz 76 Marques Ballard 5'11" 170 WR Boonville 83 Alexander Gibbs 5'10" 175 WR Guerin Catholic 91 Jack Pennington 6'2" 180 WR Seymour 92 David Sturdivant 5'11" 160 WR West Noble 99 DaMarius Young 5'11" 160 WR Lafayette Jefferson 102 Kaden Hurst 6'1" 190 WR North Side 105 Kaden Muckerheide 5'10" 145 WR North Decatur 107 Landon Short 6'4" 200 WR Speedway 110 Tysen Deck 6'1" 165 WR Central Noble 113 D’Andre Black 6'3" 175 WR Bloomington South 117 Myles Terry 6'4" 190 WR Evansville Harrison 132 Keegan Mooney 5'11" 170 WR Homestead 179 Jace Hurd 5'9" 140 WR Avon 183 AJ Watkins 6'0" 170 WR Terre Haute South 190 Lloyd Tre Brown 6'3" 180 WR Brownsburg 193 Amari Hope 5'7" 145 WR Bosse 196 Joe Syrus 6'1" 190 WR Fishers 200 Andrew Lieske 6'0" 170 WR Westfield 224 Jacob Jones 5'9" 160 WR Andrean 225 Nathan Rodgers 5'8" 170 WR Carmel 226 Ajani Washington 6'2" 170 WR Concordia Lutheran 227 Ty’Ron Larkin 5'9" 165 WR John Glenn 228 Drew Crum-Hieftje 6'0" 180 WR Bloomington South 230 Ahmaad Duff 5'5" 155 WR Lawrence Central 282 Brinn Robbins 5'10" 185 WR Lafayette Central Catholic

Danny O’Neil 6'1" 185 QB Cathedral 2 Braunte Johnson 6'3" 170 WR North Side 3 NiTareon Tuggle 6'3" 180 WR Northwood 4 Ian Moore 6'6" 290 OL New Palestine 5 Mylan Graham 6'1" 175 WR New Haven 6 Jo’Ziah Edmond 6'1" 185 ATH NorthWood 7 Tyler Cherry 6'5" 210 QB Center Grove 8 Damola Ajani 6'4" 270 OL Speedway 9 Nylan Brown 6'0" 230 LB Ben Davis 10 Jaden Hart 6'0" 210 RB Michigan City 11 Josh Ringer 6'1" 190 RB East Central 12 Hudauri Hines 6'1" 185 DB Franklin Central 13 William Goodvine III 6'2" 240 DL Westfield 14 Ransom McDermott 6'7" 300 OL Noblesville 15 Khobie Martin 6'0" 200 RB Fishers 16 Donovan Hamilton 6'4" 190 WR Hamilton Southeastern 17 Styles Prescod 6'6" 280 OL Hamilton Southeastern Highschool 18 Ralph Rogers 6'0" 190 LB Bloomington South 19 Tysen Smith 6'4" 230 TE Bloomington South 20 Patrick Clacks 6'2" 175 WR Andrean 21 Porter Rode 5'9" 195 RB Evansville Reitz Memorial 22 Grayson Thomas 6'0" 190 RB New Palestine 23 Owen Bright 6'0" 200 LB Center Grove 24 DJ Gordon 6'1" 195 QB Park Tudor 25 Alex Holmes-Gaines 6'1" 190 DB Lawrence Central 26 Zach Meeks 6'6" 220 TE Cathedral 27 Xavier Williams 5'11" 215 RB Lake Central 28 Terrelle Elmore 6'2" 210 DL West Side 29 Bradley Gibson 6'1" 210 LB Hobart 30 William Harris 5'11" 215 LB Park Tudor 31 Corey Smith 6'2" 160 WR Brownsburg 32 Terrell Caldwell 5'10" 165 WR Calumet New Tech 33 Brady Wolf 6'2" 215 DL Fishers 34 Mason Reynolds 6'1" 190 QB Avon 35 Matt Hofer 6'5" 275 OL Valparaiso 36 Jordan King 6'4" 310 OL North Side 37 Aidan Steinfeldt 6'5" 220 TE Bloomington North 38 Dantu Gardner Jr 6'4" 205 DL Lawrence North 39 Jalen Alexander 6'0" 185 RB Hamilton Southeastern 40 Nehemiah Dau 6'0" 210 LB Ben Davis 41 Russell Peterson 6'2" 190 DB Decatur Central 42 Jace Stuckey 6'3" 175 QB Triton Central 43 Mj Campbell 6'0" 230 DL Decatur Central 44 Darryl Morton 6'1" 175 ATH Lawrence Central 45 Ryan Brotherton 6'4" 195 ATH East Central 46 Julante Hinton 6'2" 210 DL Northrop 47 Noah Schneider 6'2" 275 OL East Central 48 Ashton Pesetski 6'2" 220 DL Carroll (FW) 49 Glenn Patterson 5'10" 175 RB Lafayette Jefferson 50 Bryson Luter 6'0" 180 QB Lawrence Central 50 Bryson Luter 6'0" 180 QB Lawrence Central 51 Bodie Derrer 6'3" 200 QB Hamilton Heights 52 Donovan Rhodes 6'0" 190 DB Hamilton Southeastern 53 Braxton Strong 6'4" 235 ATH Peru 54 Thomas Gotkowski 6'1" 185 QB Ben Davis 55 Garrett Sherrell 5'8" 180 RB Brownsburg 56 Noah Coy 5'10" 175 WR Center Grove 57 Sam Feeney 6'2" 195 LB Bishop Chatard 58 Scott Ballentine 6'0" 175 QB Andrean 59 Zachary Wurm 6'3" 275 OL Adams Central 60 Nick Witte 6'4" 190 WR Lapel 61 Zach Bandy 6'5" 300 OL Avon 62 Sean DeLong 5'9" 180 WR Gibson Southern 63 Jaren Bush 6'2" 185 ATH Hamilton Southeastern 64 Jackson Bell 6'2" 300 OL Homestead 65 Wyatt Woodall 6'0" 215 ATH Southmont 66 Hayden Summers 6'2" 170 WR F.J. Reitz 67 Toreeq Oyesigi 6'1" 220 DB Ben Davis Highschool 68 Harlen Summers 6'4" 230 OL FJ Reitz 69 Ray Crawford 5'10" 180 RB Triton Central 70 Damon Wilkins 5'10" 155 DB Muncie Central 71 Elijah Chandler 6'2" 235 DL Center Grove 72 Teagan Bennett 5'9" 190 RB Lawrenceburg 73 Christian Peterson 5'10" 165 DB Carmel 74 Dontae Pope 6'1" 160 QB West Side 75 Cannon Brunes 5'11" 205 ATH Western Boone 76 Marques Ballard 5'11" 170 WR Boonville 77 Landon Clements 5'10" 185 LB Mooresville 78 Braydon Durham 6'0" 195 LB Heritage Hills 79 Nic Yatsko 6'1" 185 DB Terre Haute South Vigo 80 Jackson Buis 6'3" 290 OL Greencastle 81 Javawn Brooks 6'0" 180 DB Brebeuf Jesuit 82 Devaughn Perkins 6'3" 290 DL Cathedral 83 Alexander Gibbs 5'10" 175 WR Guerin Catholic 84 Cooper Kitchel 6'3" 195 TE West Lafayette 85 Tanner Boyd 5'11" 170 QB Gibson Southern 86 Griffin Simpson 6'3" 170 DB Brownsburg 87 Zack Leighty 6'3" 285 OL East Noble 88 Cole Burton 6'0" 190 QB East Central 89 Andrew Evans 6'0" 205 LB Ben Davis 90 Quentin Boeke 6'5" 255 OL Reitz Memorial 91 Jack Pennington 6'2" 180 WR Seymour 92 David Sturdivant 5'11" 160 WR West Noble 93 Jayden Eagle 5'9" 190 RB Eastern 94 Langdon Holbrook 5'8" 180 ATH Scottsburg 95 Antonio Harris 6'0" 185 ATH Castle 96 Reagan Thembulembu 5'10" 180 DB Fishers 97 Marvis Nall III 6'1" 300 OL Warren Central 98 Levi Ostler 6'3" 230 DL Clinton Prairie 99 DaMarius Young 5'11" 160 WR Lafayette Jefferson 100 Brock Thompson 6'3" 205 LB Northridge

I think he was a QB at Pike Central 2010-2011 time frame.

what facebook page is that on?

Congratulations to these All Stars selected to play in the 57th Annual Murat Shrine North/South Football All Star Classic. Friday, July 14th 7:00pm - Decatur Central High School

Updated Rankings are in! https://prepredzone.com/indiana/rankings/2024-rankings/

Oops..I put this in the old thread: Assistant Coach Justin Fischer takes over at Mt Vernon (Posey) as the Wildcats look up at an imposing PAC Big School Division that includes Gibson Southern, Heritage Hills and Boonville. Fischer likes his returning talent and is spending the offseason building depth to better challenge the conference leaders . (ADMIN edit) removed pasted content at the request of the author and provide link to original. https://www.facebook.com/profile/100087640115509/search/?q=justin fischer

One might speculate that this departure wasn't voluntary.

Assistant Coach Justin Fischer takes over at Mt Vernon (Posey) as the Wildcats look up at an imposing PAC Big School Division that includes Gibson Southern, Heritage Hills and Boonville. Fischer likes his returning talent and is spending the offseason building depth to better challenge the conference leaders . Q&A with Coach Justin Fischer Question 1 Hello Coach Fischer and welcome to Hoosier Prep Gridiron. Certainly, its been a busy offseason as you have gotten acclimated with your role as the new head football coach at Mt Vernon High School. For our readers who are not familiar with your personal background, can you tell us a little bit about your educational and playing background and how and when you decided to get into coaching? Response Graduated from South Spencer HS, so I have familiarity with the PAC. After high school, I played at University of Indianapolis, which seems like a lifetime ago. Currently, this is my 18th year in education, and I have served as assistant principal here at Mount Vernon (Posey) for the last 6 years. As far as coaching, have been an assistant coach for 16 of those years. Have coached at the 5A, 1A, and now 3A level in Indiana. So, I think that has been a learning experience in itself to see how it differs at each level. The highlight would be being the defensive coordinator at North Vermillion when we won the 2014 1A State Championship. Simply put, I got into coaching because my high school coaches had such a positive impact on my life. Tim McIntosh (football), Roger Guth (basketball), Jim Haaff & Brian Kuester (baseball). I am forever indebted to those individuals, and many of the assistant coaches I had in high school. Question 2 Mt Vernon has had an up and down history in football and plays in the tough Pocket Athletic Conference , which has some outstanding football schools including Gibson Southern, Heritage Hills, Southridge and others. What was it about this particular position that drew your interest ? Response Well, I have worked here for the past 6 years as assistant principal, and been defensive coordinator for the last 3 years. So, I already have good knowledge of the program and school. The background of our kids might be a little different here at Mount Vernon than the schools you mentioned. However, there are challenges at every school, just different ones. The grass isn't always greener elsewhere. The program is in a good place and I feel that we can be competitive with anyone. Question 3 From a philosophical point of view, what do you like to do offensively relative to your scheme and mode of attack? Conversely, what are your core tendencies on defense and what has worked for you in the past and do you anticipate working well with Mount Vernon? Response Likely that for now that we will stick with the spread attack on offense. We have a quarterback that has a nice skill set that is conducive to that type of offense. And, we think it fits our other kids as well. On the defensive side, I think you need the flexibility to be different each week. We don't get stuck in 1 defense per se. Our defensive structure for the week usually depends on the opponent that we are playing. Question 4 Mt Vernon always has some nice individual athletic talent. What can you tell us about the current talent level and experience on the roster, and what type of feeder system is currently in place to ensure that the varsity roster is stocked for years to come? Response We feel like we have a good talent level to be successful now. We should have around 12-13 seniors this year, which is a good group overall. I think the feeder system is imperative. Being named the new head coach, I'm just getting the layout of some of those things. At times, we have a really nice class followed by one with low numbers. That has been part of the reason for some lean years in the past. Youth numbers are better than ever. We have to keep it that way to sustain success. Question 5 The PAC is a tough football Conference with a big school, small school divisional setup. What are your overall thoughts on the conference in general relative to style of play, physicality, roster depth, and the quality of coaching staffs you will find throughout the conference? Response I feel the PAC is a great conference. Competitive and tough each week. Most recently, the conference has had some really talented kids to go on and play at a high level in college. Maybe at times some of that talent gets overlooked? For example, Devin Mockobee wasn't highly sought after by a lot of colleges. But, I can tell you if you coached against him his senior year, you knew he was special. The coaching in this conference is outstanding and presents a lot of challenges each week. From my perspective, I feel it was possible to maybe win more games with coaching solely at the 1A level. At this level in 3A, if you want to be really good, you need some difference makers. Teams that are really good in 3A are solid across the board, well coached, but also have a few kids that are special. Often at the 1A level, you don't see that caliber of kid. Question 6 Coach Messmer had a solid run at Mt Vernon and had some success with several of his teams despite the high level of competition both in and out of the conference. What are your short-term goals as you assess the current state of the program, and do you feel that MV can potentially become a factor in both the conference and in the postseason tournament? Response My goal is simple- to give our kids the best possible experience they can have while being football players at Mount Vernon. Success is doing the best you can, not necessarily focusing on the result. As a high school football coach, there is more to success than strictly wins & losses. Focus on the things needed to be successful, and let the score take care of itself. I know ultimately people will judge you on wins and losses, which I'm not overly concerned with. I do think we can and will have success within the conference and the postseason. However, you are correct in that it will be challenging. Please follow our page if you like this content

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Does this change the QB outlook for Memorial?

Nice 500lb squat!

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Always a fun event.

I asked the question on Bluegrasspreps.com, what are these "bowl games" in KY about during weeks 1 and 2. This is the answer I received: Generally bowl games are in Week 1 or Week 2...that isn't any requirement of the KHSAA as far as I know of, but traditionally some of the long-standing bowls like the Montgomery County Recreation Bowl were at the beginning of the season to kind of "start the season off with a bang." Most of the bowl games are just played at a regular high school field. The Rafferty's Bowl played at WKU and the Forcht Bank Bowl which is usually played Campbellsville University are the only two that pop to my mind as played on a college field. The Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown was created to be played exclusively at UC's Nippert Stadium, but that's turned into a kinda obnoxious season-long series of games. Sponsorship is generally the biggest part of the equation. That's how teams encourage out-of-town programs to travel for games - by having sponsorships so they can offer stipends to participating teams. And the unique/out of the ordinary match-ups are intended to increase spectator attendance for the games, which they generally charge a few bucks more to get into. No idea how the gate is split among the teams, but I'd assume that's a different scenario for each of the different bowls.