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Thanks. Should have these lists soon. Heading to bed @HHF.

Ah, so I was wrong? Keller was in the star era. Thought he was earlier than that for some reason.

Thanks. Betting Dustin Keller would have been up there had the star era began in the 90s. Kid was an absolute STUD in football AND track.

Didn’t look too hurt walking off the field…

I’ll try to cook up these lists during the MNF game tonight. @BTF, when did Carroll/Homestead join the SAC? Wanna make sure I’m accurate.

Gimme years on Homestead/Carroll in the SAC for good measure.

Yeast was also a 4 star but didn’t crack the top 25. Lee was .9000. Yeast was .8983. Consider it done. Gimme the years on McCutcheon and Jeff in the HCC please.

The TERRI-bowl.

While I agree, the running game travels. The Colts still control their own destiny and are in with a win in Jacksonville this Sunday. If they can't pull that off, obviously they don't deserve to be in the playoffs. They are a very Jekyl and Hyde outfit. I honestly do not see a team that they can't beat (not saying they will) in either the AFC/NFC...or they could very well get blown out wild card weekend.

Tre Roberson, Jordan Luallen, Dexter Taylor...the list goes on and on. Every kid on here was a 4 star according to 247, Banks the lone 5 star.

"A ton of money" to Antonio Brown is nothing. By consequences, I think @DE was referring more so to the fact that his talent has allowed him to get multiple chances with multiple franchises and he repeatedly pisses it away. Let's call it what it is. If you are talented or know the right people (no matter in what walk of life) you live by a different set of rules are will always get more strikes than the general population.

Nope. He, along with Chris Evans, Desmond Tardy and Jovan Swann were among the most surprising omissions. You’ve got Mr. Football winners that failed to make this list.

Bingo.

You’ve gotta want/accept help first. He doesn’t seem interested.

Self-proclaimed stat nerd.

Was having a drunken New Year’s Eve debate with some folks regarding the history of football recruiting in Indiana and specifically, the MIC. Spurred a quick project where I took a look at the best MIC recruits of the “star era” and this was the list (in order) of the top 25 recruits in the conference based on 247 sports. Just thought it was interesting and would spur some discussion. Apologize if I missed anyone. MIC Top 25: James Banks - BD (2002) Jerimy Finch - WC (2007) Caden Curry - CG (2022) Kiaro Holts - WC (2011) Sheldon Day - WC (2012) David Bell - WC (2019) Cam McGrone - LC (2018) Morgan Newton - CAR (2009) JB Paxson - CG (2005) Kris Harley - WC (2011) Austin Roberts - CAR (2014) Darrin Kirkland - LC (2015) Tim Kimbrough - WC (2013) Cole Brevard - CAR (2020) Asmar Bilal - BD (2015) Tayven Jackson - CG (2022) Joshua Mickens - LC (2023) MarQueis Gray - BD (2008) Darius Latham - NC (2013) Donaven McCulley - LN (2021) Dyjuan Lewis - PIKE (2010) (pre MIC) Dominique Booth - PIKE (2014) Beau Robbins - CAR (2019) Chris Graham - WC (2004) Brandon Lee - LC (2014)

Anti-mandate, not anti-vax. And yes, the gig is up. Go Colts. We still allowed to cheer for Wentz?

I think he’s a fraud. Hell of a recruiter/salesman that signs the checks. On game day? Average. Time will tell on your question.

Result would have been the same just in reverse. Close game at half that Georgia blows wide open in the second half. Clemson’s offense wouldn’t be able to stay on the field. Stetson Bennett, like CJ Stroud was a completely different quarterback in November/December than in September.

Agree with your first statement. Until USC and a couple other teams on ND’s schedule can get on their feet, pencil ND in for 10 wins annually. Even @BTF could throw on the headset and accomplish as much.

Clemson will be interesting to watch going forward. They will continue to recruit at a high level but I have a hunch Dabo is more of a figure head on game day and Venables and Elliott will be tough to replace. Clemson’s offense was a shell of itself this fall. They would have gotten manhandled also. OSU would have given UGA a game early but I see the Bulldogs winning comfortably in a high scoring affair. That Buckeyes defense is atrocious.

Still love it when p/p folks chime in on these topics. Classic. Born on third base thinking they hit a triple.

Honeymoon over? Really? What honeymoon? The press conference?

35 points should be enough to win the game 90 percent of the time.

If Okie State can go for 605 on ND’s defense, CJ Stroud may get 605 passing alone.