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That’s the way they did it when there were more than 320 schools with 11 man football. There are less than 320 now.

It’s a suggestion for sectional assignments made by the poster, nothing official. The enrollments have not been released by the IHSAA. They were pulled from the DOE, so they give a preview of the numbers that could be used to determine alignments for the next cycle.

Warren Central’s enrollment is down, but almost all of the students lost can be attributed to the Warren Online Academy. If you add the 379 students from the online school to the enrollment at WCHS, it puts them right around the number they had last year (3748 this year, 3788 last year). So their enrollment hasn’t really dropped. I’m not sure if they allow their online students to participate in athletics. Either way, it has no impact on the classification for Warren Central in any sport.

Yes, Cathedral will be 6A. I left them in the enrollment list for 4A by mistake.

I forgot to remove South Bend Clay. That school will close at the end of this year. The cut line for the 1A, 2A, and 3A could move depending upon which schools who are new to 11 man football play in the tournament and closures like South Bend Clay which takes away a current football school.

3A Enrollment 1 Guerin Catholic 800 2 Jay County 800 3 Delta 798 4 Western 791 5 Mississinewa 783 6 Gibson Southern 771 7 Edgewood 761 8 Madison 760 9 Corydon Central 754 10 West Lafayette 750 11 Norwell 745 12 Angola 741 13 Mishawaka Marian 735 14 Lawrenceburg 726 15 Scottsburg 726 16 West Noble 718 17 Vincennes Lincoln 711 18 Crawfordsville 710 19 Hamilton Heights 687 20 Batesville 670 21 Twin Lakes 663 22 Greensburg 662 23 Franklin County 650 24 Owen Valley 650 25 Rushville 645 26 South Dearborn 645 27 Griffith 637 28 Indian Creek 636 29 Heritage Hills 635 30 John Glenn 633 31 North Harrison 629 32 Fort Wayne Concordia 623 33 Evansville Memorial 617 34 Hammond Bishop Noll 617 35 Indianapolis Washington 617 36 Heritage 616 37 Calumet 611 38 Bellmont 608 39 Tri-West 606 40 Maconaquah 604 41 Princeton 600 42 Peru 588 43 Purdue Polytechnic Downtown 578 44 Southridge 576 45 Mount Vernon (Posey) 574 46 Speedway 571 47 Fairfield 570 48 River Forest 567 49 Garrett 556 50 Northwestern 554 51 Cascade 546 52 Tippecanoe Valley 543 53 Lakeland 540 54 Jimtown 538 55 Oak Hill 538 56 Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 532 57 Frankton 531 58 Evansville Mater Dei 520 59 Knox 520 60 West Vigo 518 61 Woodlan 518 62 Benton Central 513 63 North Montgomery 513 64 Western Boone 513 2A Enrollment 1 Centerville 512 2 Bluffton 507 3 Heritage Christian 507 4 Monrovia 503 5 Sullivan 503 6 Eastbrook 501 7 Eastern (Greentown) 499 8 Indianapolis Cardinal Ritter 498 9 Greencastle 495 10 Salem 494 11 Wabash 492 12 Blackford 490 13 Brown County 484 14 South Bend Clay 477 15 Manchester 475 16 Pike Central 474 17 Bremen 471 18 Brownstown Central 469 19 Alexandria 468 20 South Vermillion 468 21 Triton Central 468 22 Boone Grove 466 23 Lapel 466 24 Switzerland County 464 25 Andrean 455 26 Tipton 454 27 Southmont 453 28 Indianapolis Scecina 448 29 Rensselaer Central 447 30 North Posey 442 31 North Putnam 432 32 Northeastern 423 33 Whiting 422 34 Prairie Heights 421 35 Christel House Manual 420 36 Delphi 417 37 Wheeler 417 38 Elwood 410 39 Winchester 408 40 Adams Central 407 41 Tell City 403 42 Shenandoah 400 43 Paoli 396 44 Lake Station Edison 391 45 Union County 391 46 Eastern (Pekin) 389 47 Lewis Cass 389 48 Whitko 389 49 Linton-Stockton 387 50 Seeger 386 51 Central Noble 385 52 Clarksville 385 53 Eastside 384 54 Covenant Christian (Indpls.) 383 55 Crawford County 379 56 Churubusco 378 57 Park Tudor 378* 58 Eastern Hancock 377 59 Perry Central 377 60 Mitchell 212 61 Rochester 164 62 Lafayette Central Catholic 302 63 Indianapolis Lutheran 267 1A Enrollment 1 LaVille 373 2 Providence 371 3 Taylor 366 4 South Putnam 363 5 Winamac 360 6 South Adams 357 7 Parke Heritage 354 8 Forest Park 353 9 Hagerstown 352 10 South Spencer 352 11 Eastern Greene 351 12 North Knox 349 13 Madison-Grant 336 14 Sheridan 336 15 Indianapolis Irvington 328 16 Clinton Prairie 327 17 Carroll (Flora) 321 18 Riverton Parke 320 19 North Newton 319 20 South Central (Union Mills) 318 21 Knightstown 316 22 Milan 315 23 North Decatur 314 24 North Judson 308 25 Monroe Central 301 26 Northfield 296 27 Fountain Central 289 28 Anderson Prep Academy 288 29 Pioneer 286 30 Tecumseh 286 31 Cloverdale 283 32 Fremont 283 33 Covington 281 34 Bowman Academy 277 35 West Washington 277 36 Triton 274 37 North Daviess 273 38 Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian 270 39 Faith Christian 269 40 Clinton Central 268 41 Springs Valley 266 42 South Decatur 265 43 North White 264 44 North Miami 263 45 Southwood 263 46 North Central (Farmersburg) 257 47 Tri 256 48 Southern Wells 252 49 Wes-Del 248 50 Culver 246 51 Union City 244 52 Caston 241 53 South Newton 241 54 Cambridge City Lincoln 234 55 Tri Central 232 56 Edinburgh 227 57 Greenwood Christian 222 58 Tri-County 220 59 North Vermillion 218 60 West Central 209 61 Indianapolis Tindley 202 62 Frontier 180 63 Attica 160

The DOE has released enrollment data from the fall count day for the 23-24 school year. Here are the enrollments for each school for grades 9-12. I made a tentative split for each class just to give an idea where they could be. Note that there always seems to be a few schools that have slightly different numbers when the IHSAA releases their enrollments for classification. Two schools in particular really stood out as having enrollments that were significantly lower than their 2022-23 enrollments - Rochester and Mitchell. I think there may have been some kind of reporting error. For now, I left them in the classroom they would have been in based upon previous enrollments, but I did list the enrollment that was listed by the DOE. Schools with an * did not report their data to the DOE, so their enrollments are listed as the same as the number they gave the IHSAA in 2022. I included Indianapolis Irvington, Fort Wayne Blackhawk Christian, Greenwood Christian, and Lafayette Faith Christian since they have moved to 11 man football or plan to do so, and they are tournament eligible schools. I also moved the schools who earned enough success factor points in the current cycle to be in a higher class. 6A Enrollment 1 Carmel 5200 2 Ben Davis 4567 3 Fishers 3664 4 North Central (Indpls.) 3616 5 Penn 3480 6 Avon 3476 7 Hamilton Southeastern 3442 8 Warren Central 3369 9 Franklin Central 3362 10 Brownsburg 3297 11 Noblesville 3208 12 Pike 3192 13 Elkhart 3166 14 Crown Point 2978 15 Lake Central 2961 16 Center Grove 2893 17 Lawrence North 2817 18 Westfield 2789 19 Carroll (Fort Wayne) 2569 20 Indianapolis Arsenal Tech 2500 21 Homestead 2408 22 Lawrence Central 2404 23 Southport 2368 24 Perry Meridian 2359 25 Zionsville 2309 26 Columbus North 2267 27 Portage 2170 28 Harrison (West Lafayette) 2169 29 Fort Wayne Northrop 2158 30 Jeffersonville 2141 31 Fort Wayne Snider 1915 32 Indianapolis Cathedral 1172 5A Enrollment 1 Valparaiso 2140 2 Warsaw 2108 3 Whiteland 2074 4 Decatur Central 2050 5 Merrillville 2050 6 Lafayette Jefferson 2034 7 Goshen 2006 8 South Bend Adams 1987 9 Chesterton 1980 10 Castle 1965 11 Hammond Central 1923 12 Floyd Central 1823 13 New Albany 1814 14 LaPorte 1812 15 McCutcheon 1786 16 Plainfield 1773 17 Concord 1730 18 Anderson 1722 19 Seymour 1719 20 Bloomington South 1656 21 Evansville North 1643 22 Terre Haute South 1609 23 Franklin Community 1590 24 Bloomington North 1558 25 Hammond Morton 1534 26 Michigan City 1520 27 Columbus East 1518 28 Munster 1514 29 Terre Haute North 1467 30 Kokomo 1465 31 Fort Wayne North Side 1460 32 East Central 1241 4A Enrollment 1 Fort Wayne South Side 1459 2 Mt Vernon (Fortville) 1455 3 Greenfield-Central 1430 4 Mishawaka 1422 5 Fort Wayne Wayne 1416 6 Mooresville 1398 7 Northridge 1393 8 Huntington North 1382 9 Pendleton Heights 1353 10 Muncie Central 1332 11 Evansville Reitz 1321 12 Richmond 1320 13 Martinsville 1315 14 Hobart 1298 15 Bedford-North Lawrence 1242 16 Logansport 1226 17 Greenwood 1211 18 Evansville Harrison 1209 19 New Palestine 1209 20 Indianapolis Cathedral 1172 21 Indianapolis Crispus Attucks 1170 22 Jennings County 1169 23 Columbia City 1162 24 Indianapolis Shortridge 1159 25 Shelbyville 1093 26 Jasper 1092 27 Indianapolis Roncalli 1082 28 New Haven 1068 29 Evansville Central 1065 30 Plymouth 1054 31 Marion 1045 32 DeKalb 1044 33 Lebanon 1033 34 East Chicago Central 1009 35 South Bend Riley 998 36 Gary West Side 995 37 East Noble 989 38 Kankakee Valley 989 39 Lowell 985 40 Highland 977 41 New Prairie 970 42 Silver Creek 943 43 Connersville 930 44 Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 917 45 Frankfort 901 46 Leo 900 47 Wawasee 895 48 Northview 894 49 Beech Grove 892 50 Boonville 884 51 NorthWood 869 52 Charlestown 854 53 South Bend Saint Joseph 849 54 Culver Academies 832* 55 Brebeuf Jesuit 829 56 New Castle 824 57 Danville 820 58 Hanover Central 817 59 Yorktown 812 60 South Bend Washington 811 61 Washington 810 62 Evansville Bosse 809 63 Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 730

Got ‘em. Starting a new post with the numbers.

In recent years, enrollment data has been released around this time of the year - roughly mid-December. I’ve checked almost daily for the last week or so and there hasn’t been any data for this year released. Count day was moved back to the start of October instead of mid-September, so it could come out a little later. I’ll be glad to put something together once they are released, but I’m always interested in having others take a look at it to see if there are any details I missed or errors.

As I said in my regional sites post, I am an advocate of neutral sites to host tournament games after the sectional round, and I think the facilities in Indiana are capable of a format with neutral site hosts for regional and semi-state. Here are my hypothetical neutral site semi-states for this year. This time I am presenting two options. The first is single games played on Friday night. The second features two games played at one site on Saturday afternoon/evening. All games in both options would be at locations with turf fields. This will reduce travel times for the majority of the games and remove field conditions as a variable. Just like the regionals, it gives host schools an opportunity to showcase the investment they have made in their facilities. Which format do you prefer? Neutral Site Semi-States Friday Night - Single Game 6A Crown Point/Westfield@ Lafayette Jeff Ben Davis/Center Grove @ Southport 5A Merrillville/FW Snider @ Plymouth Decatur Central/Bloomington South @ Martinsville 4A NorthWood/Leo @ Columbia City New Palestine/East Central @ Greensburg 3A Knox/Indianapolis Chatard @ Northwestern Gibson Southern/Heritage Hills @ Evansville North 2A Lafayette Central Catholic/FW Luers @ Logansport Southmont/North Posey @ Bedford North Lawrence 1A North Judson/Adams Central @ Maconaquah Sheridan/Indianapolis Lutheran @ Lawrence North Saturday Afternoon/Evening - Two Games @ Maconaquah Lafayette Central Catholic/FW Luers Knox/Indianapolis Chatard @ Columbia City North Judson/Adams Central NorthWood/Leo @ Columbia City @ Plymouth Merrillville/FW Snider Crown Point/Westfield @ Avon Sheridan/Indianapolis Lutheran Ben Davis/Center Grove @ Columbus North New Palestine/East Central Decatur Central/Bloomington South @ Washington Southmont/North Posey Gibson Southern/Heritage Hills

Thanks for catching that. I started to make a list of double header games on Saturdays and had both of those at Bedford. I forgot to change the 3A game to Jeffersonville when I made the list into single games on Friday nights.

I am an advocate of neutral sites to host tournament games after the sectional round, and I think the facilities in Indiana are capable of a format with neutral site hosts for regional and semi-state. Here are my hypothetical neutral site regional games for this year. All games would be played at locations with turf fields. This will reduce travel times and remove field conditions as a variable. It also gives schools an opportunity to showcase the investment they have made in their facilities. Neutral Site Regionals - Friday Night 6A Crown Point/Penn @ Chesterton HSE/Westfield @ Noblesville Ben Davis/Cathedral @ Arsenal Tech Warren Central/Center Grove @ Franklin Central 5A Merrillville/Valparaiso @ Hobart Mishawaka/FW Snider @ Warsaw Decatur Central/Whiteland @ Southport Bloomington South/Evansville North @ Jasper 4A New Prairie/NorthWood @ SB St Joe Leo/Mississinewa @ Huntington North Mooresville/New Palestine @ Greenwood East Central/Evansville Memorial @ Silver Creek 3A West Lafayette/Knox @ Kankakee Valley Delta/Indianapolis Chatard @ Pendleton Heights Tri-West/Gibson Southern @ Bloomington North Batesville/Heritage Hills @ Bedford NL 2A LaVille/Lafayette Central Catholic @ Logansport FW Luers/Bluffton @ Norwell Southmont/Eastern Hancock @ Plainfield Triton Central/North Posey @ Bedford North Lawrence 1A North Judson/Park Tudor @ Northwestern Carroll/Adams Central @ Oak Hill Sheridan/North Decatur @ Greenfield Central Indianapolis Lutheran/Providence @ Seymour

What high school athletic conference requires turf? I can’t imagine too many with the authority to dictate to their members that they must have turf. The investment in turf seems much more like a local decision made by a school corporation with no influence (other than envy) from other conference schools. There are several conferences with mostly large urban and suburban districts as members that consist of schools which all have turf fields, but it probably wasn’t due to a conference bylaw. I could be wrong, but I’m interested if you know of any with a bylaw like that.

It would make sense for KV and Rensselaer to be in the same conference. KV has outgrown Rensselaer by a lot but there isn’t a significant difference between them in the strength of their athletic programs. The Hoosier Conference will probably continue their patchwork and try to get Lebanon to replace Northwestern. The Tigers are not a bad fit and they are looking for a home, but I wonder if they want to bring Danville and Tri-West with them. I know this will be another example of things that are unlikely to happen, but the Hoosier Conference and the remaining members of the Sagamore could split into 2 conferences like this. KV would be a decent fit for the Hoosier in my opinion, so I’m including them as a 7th member. Hoosier Conference Logansport 1214 Kankakee Valley 1074 West Lafayette 730 Twin Lakes 674 Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Sagamore Conference Lebanon 1027 Western 819 Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Tri-West 613 Tipton 439

You’re right, none of what I suggested will ever happen. The eastern schools probably wouldn’t want Tipton. The western schools would most likely prefer not to drive to BC and Rensselaer. I don’t think any of the schools would be willing to bring in Central Catholic.

Frankfort just announced they are starting a new, yet to be named conference with WeBo, North Put, and the Montgomery County schools. I posted this on another forum: There would be some long drives, but arranging travel partners to limit the number of long trips in a season could help minimize the fuel costs. Hoosier Conference Danville 778 Hamilton Heights 710 Lebanon 1027 Logansport 1214 Tri-West 613 Twin Lakes 674 West Lafayette 730 Western 819 All of these schools are 3A or 4A in football, and when the change to the enrollment based classifications passes, all of these schools will be in 3A for basketball, volleyball, baseball, and softball. The Hoosier Heartland could then take the smaller members of the Hoosier and expand to 12 schools with 2 divisions like this: Heartland West Benton Central 508 Rensselaer Central 468 Delphi 405 Clinton Prairie 347 Carroll (Flora) 346 Lafayette Central Catholic 294 Heartland East Eastern (Greentown) 464 Tipton 439 Taylor 373 Sheridan 324 Clinton Central 268 Tri Central 236 Rossville goes to the Midwest Conference. Midwest North Newton 343 Rossville 273 North White 266 Faith Christian 245 South Newton 242 Tri-County 225 West Central 203 Frontier 198 DeMotte Christian 108

Just my opinion, but they could go with 9 members (Brown County, Cascade, Cloverdale, Edgewood, Indian Creek, Northview, Owen Valley, Sullivan, West Vigo) and play 8 conference games in football plus 1 non-conference game. 9 is not ideal for sports like wrestling, track, etc. with conference events that are better suited to 8 members. Maybe they convince Linton to be a 10th member in football and basketball, but that still doesn’t help the other sports.

This is the exact reason Jeff and Kokomo voted Harrison out. They saw the opportunity to be the dominant school with the Raiders out of the way.

In my post on the topic of Harrison and McCutcheon being booted from the NCC, I proposed a plan to expand that conference and include a blend of the current members with some slightly smaller schools within the NCC footprint. I’m applying that same thought to the NIC and NLC, which would be to combine them and split into 2 regions (East and West), each with two divisions (Large and Small). Something like this, with enrollments from the fall 2022 count day included. East Region, Large Division (EL): Elkhart 3302 Goshen 1981 Concord 1775 Northridge 1389 East Region, Small Division (ES): Plymouth 1076 Northwood 917 Wawasee 906 Mishawaka Marian 698 West Region, Large Division (WL): Penn 3401 Warsaw 2096 South Bend Adams 1976 Mishawaka 1463 West Region, Small Division (WS): South Bend Riley 992 South Bend Washington 834 South Bend Saint Joseph 819 New Prairie 978 In football, each school plays the 3 in their division, 2 from the other division of schools their size, and 1 from each of the 2 divisions of schools a different size. That gives each school 7 conference games. It also allows them to preserve some long-time rivalries and still play 2 non-conference games against opponents of their choice. In basketball, each team plays everyone in their region (east/west) and the 4 schools from the opposite side of the conference who play in the same size-based division. So using Penn as an example, this could be their football schedule, not necessarily in this order. Valparaiso Cathedral Mishawaka (WL 1) Warsaw (WL 2) South Bend Adams (WL 3) Elkhart (EL 1) Northridge (EL 2) Northwood (ES) New Prairie (WS) Elkhart could then have a schedule like this: Hammond Morton Lake Central Concord (EL 1) Goshen (EL 2) Northridge (EL 3) Penn (WL 1) Warsaw (WL 2) Mishawaka Marian (ES) South Bend St. Joseph (WS) This is just as unlikely to happen as my suggestion for the NCC.

I wonder if they will try to work the name Clay into the name of the charter school that will eventually open on that campus. Career Academy High School will probably get quite a few more requests to enroll in the next few years.

You’re right, with Harrison’s growth, my suggested conference additions would probably be a short-term fix that prolongs the conference for another 5-10 years. I don’t think rotating those cross-division and cross-region games would be a requirement. Harrison’s schedule could have been something like this: Roncalli Crown Point West Lafayette Lebanon Lafayette Jeff Mississinewa McCutcheon Kokomo Marion I think this would have been better than the schedule they’ve had in the current NCC. Other schools could have benefitted from the expanded conference as well, like West Lafayette. A schedule for West Side could have looked like this: Central Catholic Rensselaer Central Harrison Lafayette Jeff Western Marion Lebanon Logansport Yorktown

Sure, this is all just a fantasy anyway, so let the Puppies come on over to the Conference of Voting Out Champions. If this ever had a chance of happening, Frankfort could be a candidate for the West Small division. Inevitably, at least one of the schools I suggested for membership would not join. Western and Mississinewa both like playing in conferences of much smaller schools and probably wouldn’t leave their current status as a big fish in a small pond. Frankfort could be an alternate choice in the West Small division, and Hamilton Heights for the East Small division instead of the River Rats.

Jeff fits competitively in the NCC in most sports. They will ignore the travel time and abandon their Tippecanoe County neighbors because they see the opportunity to be the top dog in the NCC for football. They will compete just fine in basketball and most other sports. Harrison was the only true target of this move. Jeff was on board with it because they don’t like that Harrison has leap frogged them in every sport including boys basketball and football. McCutcheon hasn’t and would honestly be a good fit to stay in the NCC. I think the NCC schools even asked McCutcheon to stay but they were loyal to their district sibling. The problem for Harrison and McCutcheon is that they want to be a package deal, but there aren’t many schools that would want both of them in their conference. Harrison’s enrollment has grown at a faster rate than McCutcheon’s and their athletic programs are stronger across the board. McCutcheon might struggle in some conferences that would take Harrison, but Harrison may not get much competition in conferences that are a better fit for McCutcheon. In my opinion, this could have been avoided by taking a more progressive approach. Expand the conference to include a blend of the current members and some slightly smaller schools within the NCC footprint. Conference championships really don’t mean anything, they are just used to keep some people quiet when a team underachieves in the state tournament. “Well, we did win conference….” Anyway, my thought would be to add several schools to get to 16 members. Split into 2 regions (East and West), each with two divisions (Large and Small). Like this, with enrollments from the fall 2022 count day included. East Region, Large Division: Anderson 1790 Marion 1041 Muncie Central 1326 Richmond 1317 East Region, Small Division: Delta 786 Mississinewa 791 New Castle 836 Yorktown 791 West Region, Large Division: Harrison 2136 Kokomo 1497 Lafayette Jeff 2113 McCutcheon 1825 West Region, Small Division: Lebanon 1027 Logansport 1241 Western 819 West Lafayette 730 In football, each school plays the 3 in their division, 2 from the other division in their region, and 1 from each of the 2 divisions on the opposite side of the conference. That gives each school 7 conference games. It also allows them to preserve some long-time rivalries and still play 2 non-conference games against opponents of their choice. In basketball, each team plays everyone in their region (east/west) and the 4 schools from the opposite side of the conference who play in the same size-based division. So using Harrison as an example, they would play their division (Jeff, McCutcheon, Kokomo), region (Lebanon, Logan, Western, West Lafayette), and the East Large schools (Anderson, Marion, Muncie Central, Richmond). New Castle would play their division (Delta, Mississinewa, Yorktown), region (Anderson, Marion, Muncie Central, Richmond), and the West Small schools (Lebanon, Logan, Western, West Lafayette). I think this would serve a lot of the interests of all schools in the expanded NCC. The toothpaste is already out of the tube though, and many of these schools would not go for this anyway. So where do they go? I don’t have a clue. Conference Indiana might make sense if it wasn’t so far to travel for the current members. Adding Harrison and McCutcheon would bring the conference to 8 members, which is ideal. It also has a mix of schools that would fit the competitive level of McCutcheon (Southport, THN, THS) and schools that would compete better with Harrison (BL North, BL South, and CN). Those schools probably won’t even consider adding Harrison and McCutcheon due to travel, and the current members seem to be looking for other places to go already. Another possibility is to partner with the Indy parochial schools in the Circle City Conference. If they look north, they would fit nicely in the Duneland. Travel would be a concern with the added factor of time zone changes, and the Duneland schools probably have no desire to expand. The Mid-State would be ok also, but like the Duneland, I don’t think they want more than 8 members.

Swap Wawasee (enrollment just over 900) with Jimtown (enrollment 540) and this looks pretty good.