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Week 3, yes. It will be an interesting gauge for both programs coming off of good years and both with large losses in their senior classes.

That makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the info.

Yes, and a very good one. The population there continues to increase and the community very much supports the program. Playing against Floyd and Jeff make good sense. It is a step up in competition for them, plus they are very close games to travel for. If they lose, they will be better for it when the face their conference, plus they play bigger schools in the tournament. This is not the beginning of a move to the HHC for SC. They would still be the smallest program in the conference if they made the move, so it would do them no good. This is a nice, happy medium where they get to play a couple of HHC opponents to better themselves in the long run.

Silver Creek dropped Providence week 3 to pick up Floyd. That will be a neat matchup. SC will be in a bit of a rebuild mode next year as they had a large senior class, but the program is still in good shape. FC will be rebuilding as well so on paper it should be an interesting game.

That would be one heck of a drive if true. It is nearly 3 hours, according to Google maps, so probably at least 3 on a bus! It is no longer directly HHC related, but Madison's schedule is interesting. I'd have to think the double up on September 10th is an error and one of those games is a week 3. Carroll County definitely makes sense, as they are nearly across the river from one another. Mercer County is a solid 3A school. And Boone County is a 5A program that has struggled for some time now. They keep JC, BNL and Seymour from their HHC days. DATE OPPONENT EASTERN TIME OA 0.0, DA 0.0 Aug. 21 Mercer County (Ky.) 5:00 pm Aug. 27 at South Dearborn 4A 7:00 pm Sep. 10 Carroll County (Ky.) 7:00 pm Sep. 10 Milan 1A 7:00 pm Sep. 17 at Jennings County 4A 7:00 pm Sep. 24 at Mitchell 2A 7:00 pm Oct. 1 Boone County (Ky.) 7:00 pm Oct. 8 at Bedford North Lawrence 5A 7:00 pm Oct. 15 Seymour 5A 7:00 pm

That's a good looking schedule. Nice to see them keep playing the big boys to make them better. I'm excited to see Allen continue to develop. Will Heritage Hills bounce back and compete with GS in the big school division? Will Boonville be a factor? Does Mount Vernon and North Posey continue their improvement and compete for division titles? What does Southridge return? They've been on a roll lately. Can Tell City and Forest Park build on very good years?

To me, it's a numbers thing. They already have a small number of teams in the tournament. I suppose we could combine 5A/6A again, but we know we went to 6 classes because of the discrepancy between the highest enrollment and the lowest of 5A.

I have discussed this for many years after seeing it work in Kentucky, although they aren't without their flaws. 1. Abolish conferences. 2. Utilize "sectionals" as districts. 3. Play 10 game regular season schedule, with 7 of those games being opponents from your district. This gives coaches/ADs 3 games to schedule at their leisure. If they're building a program, they can schedule easier. If they want stiff competition, they can schedule up a class or two. The open weeks will be weeks 1-3, so everyone has the same open dates. 5A and 6A will remain as 4 team districts and will only have 3 required games and 7 open to schedule how they please. 4. Top 6 of 8 teams in 1A-4A qualify for the tournament. This is based on district standings (win/loss column). 5. First week of the playoff the 1 and 2 seed from 1A-4A have a bye. The other games are seeded based on district standings. 6. Playoff matchups are not inter-district. We'll match closest districts for close as possible play. Higher seeds get the home games. I will use sectional 48 and 47 as examples. It gets a little funky since teams played different numbers of games due to COVID. SECTIONAL 48 Sect Class Overall West Washington 6- 0 7- 1 11- 1 Perry Central 5- 2 5- 2 8- 4 North Daviess 3- 2 3- 3 4- 5 North Central (Farmersburg) 1- 2 1- 5 1- 7 Tecumseh 1- 3 1- 3 3- 5 Springs Valley 1- 4 1- 5 1- 8 Eastern Greene 1- 4 1- 5 1- 9 Rock Creek Academy 0- 1 0- 3 0- 6 SECTIONAL 47 Sect Class Overall North Decatur 5- 1 8- 2 10- 3 Milan 4- 1 5- 1 7- 4 Tri 3- 1 5- 2 8- 3 Knightstown 3- 2 4- 2 6- 4 South Decatur 2- 2 4- 2 5- 2 Cambridge City Lincoln 1- 3 1- 4 1- 6 Oldenburg Academy 0- 4 2- 6 3- 6 Hagerstown 0- 4 0- 5 0-10 In this scenario in Sectional 47, Oldenburg Academy and Hagerstown would not have qualified for the playoffs (again it's not a true representation this year since number of games is off). In sectional 48, Springs Valley (lost to Eastern Green) and Rock Creek would have been eliminated. West Washington, Perry Central, North Decatur and Milan would have earned the byes. First round matchups would be: 48 #3 North Daviess vs. 47 #6 Cambridge City Lincoln 47 #3 Tri vs. 47 # 6 Springs Valley 48 #4 North Central vs. 47 #5 South Decatur 47 #4 Knightstown vs. 47 #5 Tecumseh The winner of the 47/48 region would face the winner of the 45/46 region, etc. As a whole in this scenario, 64 of 320 teams playing do not qualify for the playoffs. Therefore, 80% of eligible teams still participate in the playoffs. Each 7. These districts can be redrawn every 2-3 years to adjust based on changing enrollments. I really think a scenario like this will increase competition, reduce the number of blowouts and lead to a better overall product.

I just looked at sectional standings on Harrell. I am now guessing it probably included post-season play as well. But if you look at those sectionals individually, both of those teams would have fared well against that competition anyway. WeBo's top competition would have been South Vermillion and Seeger, of which they blasted Seeger in the tournament. Luers would have faced competition in Eastside (whom they beat in the tournament), Bluffton and Fairfield.

Not, Texas, unfortunately. I almost made the jump - I had an offer near El Paso, I believe - but family kept me closer in Kentucky. That's my experience with it. You and I have discussed this before. If 6 of 8 out of your "district" make it, that is far different than the old cluster system. I personally have no issue with with all 8 of the district teams making the tournament as a starting point for seeding purposes. Plus, in this proposal, everyone in 5A/6A would make it since they already have 4 team "districts." In my proposal, all those guys make it. WeBo was already undefeated vs. sectional 37 opponents in the regular season. Luers was as well against sectional 35 opponents. Zionsville is 5A so all 5A teams would make it in this proposal. It would be all about district standings and I say top 4 or 6 out of 8 would make it. If you do 4, you maintain your simple playoff structure. If you did 6, the top 2 teams would have a bye on week 1 of playoffs.

Do away with conferences. Utilize sectionals as districts. Top 4 or 6 teams (1A-4A) from each make the playoffs (based on district standings). Playoffs feature cross sectional matchups based on seeds based on district standings. 10 game regular season. 7 district games, 3 non-district games to schedule as you choose. No formulas. No controversy. It's far fetched but it's essentially what Kentucky does molded to fit Indiana. Districts change every two years when enrollments are reclassified. Many of the sectionals are conference opponents anyway. 3 open weeks give you the opportunity to schedule a rival if they aren't in your district. You can schedule easy or tough, whichever serves your school best. It'll never pass, but this experience was the best I've ever had as a coach. I've been on both ends of the spectrum in Indiana. Having had the opportunity to see it done different, it makes no sense how Indiana does it. I don't expect many to agree, and that is fine. Just one man's opinion.

It will be interesting to see if anything comes of the experiment. I feel like some other states did this as well. Maybe Iowa? I have a feeling they will return to their original playoff ways once we are back to "normal."

What does Floyd have to replace and what do they return?

Maybe now the rest of the conference will have a chance? 🤣 Who are we kidding? The East train will roll on no matter who they hire. I know they have some well-qualified internal candidates.

Wow, we all knew the day would come eventually. Congrats on a great career and enjoy a well-deserved retirement, coach.

@Frozen Tundra It has only been two years I have done it. I think you and I guess differently week one or two, then tend to agree on most the rest of the year after we figure teams out. I expect it'll be the same next year! Maybe we can get the participation rate back up to where it was as well.

Very neat story. Congrats to both programs. But the southern Indiana in me has me pulling for WW. Good luck!

I agree. The 8-man proposal for Indiana was also fairly recently tabled. So I do not expect such a thing any time soon. I hope it is revisited once economic situations stabilize. I also don't think it would be a bad thing for some current 11-man teams to potentially play 8-man instead. It would give them an opportunity to be more competitive.

If it gives kids and schools that can't play football an opportunity to do so, who cares how many points they score? I am all for it.

Regional Week Jeffersonville at Castle It's hard to believe Jeff is the last HHC team standing after the challenging season that they had. But props to them for putting it together when it mattered most. It will be a tough out against a well coached Castle program, but I've said that the last two weeks. I will keep picking against them in hoping it helps them continue to win!

Regional Week West Washington at North Decatur This is a tough call. North Decatur has not been scored on in their last 7 games. You have to go back to September 18th in their loss to Milan where they gave up points. That is incredible. I think this should be a good game but I am going with the home team here in North Decatur. But I will pull for the PLAC team in WW. Good luck to all.

Sectional Championship Week Salem at Southridge Perry Central at West Washington Salem is playing well. Southridge is on fire. It should be a good one.

Jeffersonville at New Albany Columbus East at Center Grove Can't argue those picks, although if Jeff comes out ready like they did last week, they are very capable of pulling off the win.

Final: Jeff 35, FC 28. Jeff intercepts pass at their own 16 with under a minute left to clinch it. Huge upset. They will face New Albany next week for the sectional championship.

Upset special: Jeff 35, Floyd 21 10:00 remaining