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Funny how that comment comes from a Memorial supporter. I had the chance as a high school student to do a student-council "swap" for a day in which Memorial was the school we "swapped" with. (They spent a day at ours, we spent a day at theirs). That day STILL sticks with me all these years later in regards to the P/P debate and just how different 2 similar sized schools could be. Hence the "wall the hallways" argument.
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Or have to go work to support a one parent household. Or live with grandma/grandpa because mom/dad are out of the picture. Or don’t have the physical capabilities of participating. The list goes on and on- but P/P aren’t faced with many of these issues - hence the “walk through the hallways and then tell me there is not a difference” argument Its really that simple.
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.I think we finally agree on something! "Pretty simple really. Socioeconomic factors. Walk down the hallways at a place like Chatard and/or Memorial or any P/P, then walk down the halls of a public school with a high free/reduced and other factors that may not be ideal for extra-curricular participation. "
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I can’t believe it’s taken me this long to notice this (but sitting in the stands this weekend as opposed to being on sideline coaching...well I guess you just notice odd things such as these) At the end of the New Pal/Valpo game, we are trying to do some math calculations as far as timing/running off/our the clock and we noticed either just one of those “oddities” or perhaps a flaw in the play-clock/game clock system. When a team gets a first down, the game-clock stops to move the chains. However the 40 starts immediately when the play is over. I probably wouldn’t have noticed, but we all were trying to figure it out so we all had our eyes fixated on the clock...probably took about 10 seconds , or ate into 10 seconds of the 40 second playclock to get the chains set. I don’t know if I have a question here, it was just something I’d never really payed attention to.
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Being from SW Indiana and a member of the PAC- I’ve tried to keep up with all the thoughts/predictions of this game thread. I keep hearing/reading about how this Chatard team is untouchable, they are unlike anything HH will have seen, etc...and while all of that may turn out to be true, I keep having one pervival thought keep running through my head and that is Has any PAC team made a trip to the Dome or Lucas Oil and just got blasted or blown out of the water??? I don’t think so?(and I may be wrong- but I sure don’t seem to remember it) So with that thought keep running through my mind- I don’t think it will be the blow-out many are expecting. Best of luck to the Pats- bring it home and have that 2 point play dialed up just in case- you never know 😜
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Ok just so I’m clear- there is holding behind the line-of-scrimmage. But if the ball is thrown and in the air, and our LB just hits the intended WR or RB who is waiting on a screen- then no foul??
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That 2002 HH team was NASTY. I don't like using the term "choked" because it's high school football...things happen. But man how that team didn't play for a State Title is beyond me. I know that Chatard had a pretty good squad that year, but that HH team was very good. As was 1999-2000 with the Kress boys/Goldsberry. Pretty good run of talent right there. As far as this years team/game this Friday - I can't really give an educated opinion as I have not seen Chatard play at all. I do know that this HH team has the ability to slow the game down/shorten possessions and generally won't beat themselves and will be sound in all phases of special teams.
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Is there pass interference BEHIND the line-of-scrimmage?? To my understanding, or what I have always known - is that behind the line-of-scrimmage, there is NO PI?? Meaning, a Defensive Lineman or Linebacker reads a screen, he has free reign to grab at the RB. Is this correct??
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2A Semi-State: Western Boone @ Triton Central
jets replied to BigTimeDB's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
SMH - just when I thought we had put this nonsense behind us and you all could move on to focusing in on what would be a great back-to-back accomplishment, you just can't help yourself throwing jabs. If you think 2017 was a "moment-in-the-sun" or flash-in-the-pan for SR, then you haven't been paying much attention in the 2000s really. 2002 - State Finalist (lose a close one to Luers, who was a juggernaut at the time) 2006- State Finalist (lost another close one - this time to Harding) 2007- Semi-State, lose to Heritage Christain 2008- Sectional Champs, lose a mud bowl in Regional 2009-2012 - Run into some VERY good MD teams who just happen to be in our sectional most years 2013 - Sectional Champs, lose in regional 2014 - Lose to MD in Sectional 2015-2016 - Spend some time up in 3A...make some Sectional Championships, but run into some very good Brownstown teams 2017 - Finally reach the mountain top 2018- Semi-State ...you all put it on us pretty humbling. Certainly not mind-boggling/blow you away run, but we're proud of it nonetheless. Most years not mentioned up there we spent dealing with a certain P/P in our neck of the woods that is known to be pretty good (MD). I really regret this back-forth, you all should spend your energy being exciting for another great season and potential State Championship. Best of luck this weekend. -
2A Semi-State: Western Boone @ Triton Central
jets replied to BigTimeDB's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Seriously it’s like talking to a brick wall with you WeBo folk...borderline childish/petty. Here’s the jist - 1. Before last year, I hadn’t given 2 thoughts to the WeBo football program as it hadn’t been relevant for quite some time. 2. You all put it on us last year- plain and simple. Undefeated State Champs- was super impressed. 3. From that time on, I’ve checked in on WeBo this season as I knew they had quite a bit returning and a good chance to repeat. (I foolishly thought that would bring them up to 3A- but the system is flawed) 4. A fan of yours starts throwing shade at another coaching staff and claims WeBo’s staff has WAY more class than others...hit the brakes for a second...I simply cited an example from the WeBo staff that could be seen by others as “laying it on”. I didn’t necessarily think too much of it at the time and still really don’t...we should have stopped it if we didn’t want to hear about it. I was just pointing out some may have seen it as unnecessary. - I hope Chris or some moderators will shut this thread down soon as clearly there isn’t much more to be said. Best of luck in the State Championship -
2A Semi-State: Western Boone @ Triton Central
jets replied to BigTimeDB's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Call it what you will- just responding to a comment you made about the “CLASS” when the score was 42-7 with under a minute to go in the ballgame. Like I said- careful throwing stones. Best of luck next week. -
2A Semi-State: Western Boone @ Triton Central
jets replied to BigTimeDB's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
You mean like putting one in up 42-7 with under a minute to go in the ballgame?? Careful throwing stones. Didn’t watch the game but reading the thread I would agree that’s not great on TC’s part - but kuddos to you all for taking 4 knees (maybe the staff learned something after last years SS?) What the other team does is there decision, and they decided to play it out till the end. -
First off- hats off to the Patriots in getting to Lucas Oil. Way to represent the PAC! Had a group they’ve been waiting on for some time and they did what needed to be done. Now- for the ol nemisis Chatard. What is the outlook on their team?? Being down in the corner of the State- don’t know much about them?? Run heavy?? Throw it around the lot?? I will say if you think you’re just gonna line up and try and run it at the Patriots, you’re gonna be in for a “slobber knocker” of a game and probably a long night.
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Heritage Hills 13-0 at Danville 8-5
jets replied to DaveMosbey's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Damn - people sure are sensitive. I was asking a genuine question as it seems to be a very rare feat (not playing a P/P school) and was curious how many times that may/may not have happened. With Chatard/Memorial now out of the picture obviously that could become more of the norm now. Geez... BTW - I was in attendance in L'burg rooting on the Patriots and our PAC brethren. Would be cool to see a PAC school up their representing. Scenia, Heritage Christain, Brebuff, etc...plenty of them you failed to mention. Heck there has been years we've seen 3 straight P/P schools on the way up to a trip to LOS. -
Are these all the live-stream links??
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2A North Semi-State ANDREAN @ EASTBROOK
jets replied to captainobvious's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
I don't know all the ins/outs and point values and what it takes...but I've always wondered how Eastbrooke hasn't been moved up with the Success Factor?? Seems like you guys are always in semi-state?? Does getting there not accumulate enough points I guess?? -
Heritage Hills 13-0 at Danville 8-5
jets replied to DaveMosbey's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
Nice Post - finally we have some reason/clarity to this thread. Interesting take on the "run through the playoffs" ...got me thinking. I know HH hasn't had it easy by any means - but interesting that they haven't run up against a P/P school at all in the tourney?? I wish some statistician could tell me when the last time a team in 3A South has had a road to LOS that didn't involve playing or taking out a P/P?? HH gotta feel pretty fortunate in that regard.... -
Not mad at all. Thought we represented ourselves pretty well for moving up to 3A and losing our All-State caliber QB. Just pointing out what I feel is an obvious flaw in the system. Some of you dudes try and turn EVERYTHING into an argument and it really is annoying/tiresome. Glad you all got a new field though.
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Heritage Hills 13-0 at Danville 8-5
jets replied to DaveMosbey's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
No dog whatsoever in the Chatard/Danville history/discussion/back-forth...but did the COACH really just leave the sideline to go stand in front of the stands so that everyone can "look at me??" Really?? I have no problem whatsoever with genuine excitement and celebrating with your guys ...but to leave the sideline and go stand amongst the cheerleaders?? Really?? Sorry for the distraction from the game - but man... -
Had ONE goal - but at the expense of others?? Just the "unintended consequences" argument?? Ya it made some P/P play up some classes a few years, but what of the obvious FLAWS in the system?? Like a school could win back-to-back States and have no repercussions??
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Heritage Hills 13-0 at Danville 8-5
jets replied to DaveMosbey's topic in The Indiana High School Football Forum
The Chatard/Danville talk can stop- it ain’t gonna happen. HH rolls in this one 28-7
